Jamal Khashoggi: The Media Fights for Muslim Brotherhood Pal-The terrorist truth behind the lies

[The Purge]

THAT IS A LIE, and you and your ilk are nothing but low life, grave pissing, LIARS.

He was NOT part of the Muslim Brotherhood, he was a journalist.

please go away, to your destiny spot... in the Lake of Fire soon! AMEN!!!

And I wager that C4A still believes Kavanaugh raped Balsey Fotd and the 2 other hired whores....

Working for the NY SLIMES does not make you a journalist, it makes you a radical Trump hater!....You notice WHO is servicing the Saudi King...and it isn't Trump!

 

[kiwiman127]

Conservatives mount a whisper campaign smearing Khashoggi in defense of Trump
Hard-line Republicans and conservative commentators are mounting a whispering campaign against Jamal Khashoggi that is designed to protect President Trump from criticism of his handling of the dissident journalist’s alleged murder by operatives of Saudi Arabia — and support Trump’s continued aversion to a forceful response to the oil-rich desert kingdom.
In recent days, a cadre of conservative House Republicans allied with Trump has been privately exchanging articles from right-wing outlets that fuel suspicion of Khashoggi, highlighting his association with the Muslim Brotherhood in his youth and raising conspiratorial questions about his work decades ago as an embedded reporter covering Osama bin Laden, according to four GOP officials involved in the discussions who were not authorized to speak publicly.
Conservatives mount a whisper campaign smearing Khashoggi in defense of Trump

I read this article last night, knowing that when I visited USMB this morning, all the goose-stepping Little Trumpsters, would be posting their talking points propaganda, on cue. You people are so predictable. It's always the same cast of characters and it's like clockwork!
You people look ridiculous. Man, am I happy that I'm not you.

 

[The Purge]

Conservatives mount a whisper campaign smearing Khashoggi in defense of Trump
Hard-line Republicans and conservative commentators are mounting a whispering campaign against Jamal Khashoggi that is designed to protect President Trump from criticism of his handling of the dissident journalist’s alleged murder by operatives of Saudi Arabia — and support Trump’s continued aversion to a forceful response to the oil-rich desert kingdom.
In recent days, a cadre of conservative House Republicans allied with Trump has been privately exchanging articles from right-wing outlets that fuel suspicion of Khashoggi, highlighting his association with the Muslim Brotherhood in his youth and raising conspiratorial questions about his work decades ago as an embedded reporter covering Osama bin Laden, according to four GOP officials involved in the discussions who were not authorized to speak publicly.
Conservatives mount a whisper campaign smearing Khashoggi in defense of Trump

I read this article last night, knowing that when I visited USMB this morning, all the goose-stepping Little Trumpsters, would be posting their talking points propaganda, on cue. You people are so predictable. It's always the same cast of characters and it's like clockwork!
You people look ridiculous. Man, am I happy that I'm not you.

More FAKE NEWS from the Washington Post, but good try, little ABNORMAL!

Washington Post Caught Red Handed Peddling Anti-Trump Fake News | Investor's Business ...
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Sep 18, 2018 · Case in point is the Washington Post "bombshell" story on denying ... on the news media, the press keeps publishing fake news stories about

 

[Roudy]

Muslim Brotherhood propagandist or not, it's obvious that the Saudis did it. This is nothing new, as almost every single Muslim country engages in this kind of behavior towards its own critics. The difference is this time it was done on foreign soil, and inside a consulate to a journalist who worked for WAPO, which is basically a Leftist propaganda mouthpiece.

This is really too bad for the Saudis and the Middle East in general, as the new crown prince had brought many long overdue reforms to the kingdom such as allowing women to vote and drive, and recognition and cooperation with the state of Israel. Apparently the crown prince does have a long history of being very impulsive, violent, and brutal:

The Bodyguard Speaks

Mark Young, a British citizen who worked as a Royal Protection Officer for the upper echelons of the Saudi Ruling family for 15 years, confirmed the reports of Sara’s beatings and hospitalizations.

In an interview with the Gulf Institute, Young said he met Sara and MBS’ mother Fahda through his work. According to Young and Khalid, Sara wanted to divorce Bin Salman but her mother talked her out of it. Young detailed his experience guarding the Saudi ruling family in a book titled “Saudi Bodyguard.”

Violent Blood

Young described MBS as an aggressive man. “MBS’ mentality is like both his mother and father – he is a forceful bully boy,” he said. “He has anxiety-related conditions and has lashed out at others, including his wife,” Young said.

Several videos of MBS appear to support Young’s assertions of MBS’ anxiety disorder. Videos show MBS suffering from a facial tic due possibly to anxiety disorder or other psychological condition.

Young said that MBS inherited his mother and father’s temperament. Reports of King Salman’s violent behavior are circulated widely in Saudi Arabia. Young recalled an incident when Salman slapped a servant across the face. Salman’s huge diamond ring flew off as people scurried to find it; the servant he slapped found it and swallowed it. Young said, “we laughed and said nothing, we thought the servant deserved the ring for his slap.”

Son Murdered

The Gulf Institute has previously reported that King Salman killed his son Abdullah, who was born to a black slave girl after a casual encounter with Salman. Salman killed Abdullah because he was black, according to a nephew of the King. The mother was among the hundreds of slaves at Saudi palaces who provided many services including sex with princess. Slavery was not abolished in Saudi Arabia until 1962 by King Saud. The Saudi government enforces an official policy of discrimination against blacks and bars them from senior government jobs including judges, diplomats, ministers and other posts.

In a related incident, King Salman’s only daughter Hassa assaulted a French designer in Paris in 2016 and threatened to kill him, the British daily Independent reported. Wednesday, a French judge issued an arrest warrant against Hessa’s for the incident, according to France Press Agency, AFP.

Reports of Saudi Crown Prince’s Domestic Violence Emerge

 

[longknife]

Who was Jamal Khashoggi?



I heard a most enlightening segment from Limbaugh about this guy and who he was. I still do not understand why the media has made such a huge deal about it – unless it’s just another attempt to direct attention away from the president for the midterms.


He wasn’t an American citizen and his fame strictly came from lengthy interviews with Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan. He wrote opinion pieces.


Here are some facts about who he was:

Khashoggi was a Saudi national and lawful permanent resident of the U.S

He had some famous relatives and big connections in the Saudi elite:

He had long experience in media [not all of it that successful]

He interviewed and traveled with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan

He was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and supports Hamas: [terrorist supporter]

He was an implacable critic of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) [the guy who’s trying to drag Saudi Arabia and Islam out of the Dark Ages]

He was politically active:


The last is probably why he ran afoul of Saudi figures.

So, here’s my question: why the hell is American media making such a big deal about it? Why are they pressing President Trump to make a big deal about it? What does the American government have to do with something that took place in Turkey and involved the Saudis?


Figure it out for yourselves.

More on this @ Seven Facts About Jamal Khashoggi's Life, Writing, and Politics | Breitbart

Jamal Khashoggi: Who's who in alleged Saudi 'hit squad' @ Who's who in alleged Saudi 'hit squad'


Dems, Media Show Stunning Hypocrisy on Jamal Khashoggi Case @ Dems, Media Show Stunning Hypocrisy on Jamal Khashoggi Case

Example after example of why it’s such a farce

Man Linked to Khashoggi Disappearance Dies in 'Suspicious Car Accident' @ Man Linked to Khashoggi Disappearance Dies in 'Suspicious Car Accident'

 

[Care4all]

Did the Muslim Brotherhood murder their own 'dissident' in order to undermine the Pro-western changes being brought to Saudi Arabia.

President Trump is being wise in NOT taking the bait. A wait & see attitude is PISSING the liberal media off!!!

In high school, Jamal Khashoggi had a good friend. His name was Osama bin Laden.

“We were hoping to establish an Islamic state anywhere,” Khashoggi reminisced about their time together in the Muslim Brotherhood. “We believed that the first one would lead to another, and that would have a domino effect which could reverse the history of mankind.”

The friendship endured with Jamal Khashoggi following Osama bin Laden to Afghanistan. Khashoggi credited Adel Batterjee, listed at one time as one of “the world’s foremost terrorist financiers” by the Treasury Department, with bringing him to Afghanistan to report on the fighting.

But unlike Osama bin Laden, Khashoggi did not use the Muslim Brotherhood as a gateway drug to the pure and uncut violence of Al Qaeda or ISIS. He was still betting on a political takeover.

As he recently put it, “Democracy and political Islam go together.”

Khashoggi went on making the case for the Islamic state of the Muslim Brotherhood. He went on making that case even as the Saudis decided that the Brotherhood had become too dangerous.

Read more at frontpagemag.com ...

The more I read on this guy the less I like him. It seems he was a Media person who had Radical background in the Muzzy world. Could be his killing was not a bad idea. You will never get the truth from our Media. Jamal Khashoggi: The Media Fights for a Muslim Brotherhood Pal of Osama Bin Laden

fyi-


On Jamal Khashoggi, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Saudi Arabia


3Saudi Arabia’s official attitude toward the Muslim Brotherhood today is that the group is a terrorist organization—but this is a relatively recent policy innovation. For decades, while the kingdom was competing for influence in the Arab world with the secular nationalist regimes of Egypt, Iraq, and Syria, Saudi Arabia welcomed to its soil Brotherhood members who were persecuted or unsafe in their home countries. Within the context of the kingdom’s severe state Islamism—forged through the alliance of Ibn Saud and the cleric Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahab—the Brotherhood was acceptable, since the movement’s leadership argued that rulers who implemented Islamic law had religious legitimacy and deserved public support. And the movement’s approach to Islamization through preaching and service did not challenge the authority of the Saudi government and was seen by many Saudis, Jamal Khashoggi apparently included, as a pathway to religious re-interpretation that would enable Saudi Arabia to undertake important societal reforms.

1Yes, Jamal Khashoggi had many friends among the Muslim Brotherhood and, as his colleague David Ignatius reported days after his disappearance, had joined the movement himself as a young man before apparently shifting away from it later in his career. No one who knew Jamal at all is surprised by these facts, no matter with what lurid framing they are now “revealed.” Whatever sympathies and associations he may have had, they do not change the apparent fact that Jamal Khashoggi was kidnapped, murdered, and dismembered to silence his freedom of expression. Those on the right who have spent decades fighting for free speech on campus will leap to tell you, correctly, that freedom of speech demands respect regardless of the political valance of the views espoused—and that protecting the expression of unpopular views that challenge current political correctness is the acid test for the security of this right overall. So even if you believe that Jamal Khashoggi was a full-bore Brotherhood member with an agenda of Islamization for the Arab world, you should still condem his apparent assassination for the crime of speaking his mind.

2This “whisper campaign,” as the Washington Post deemed it, has noted Khashoggi’s embedded reporting about the Arab mujahideen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 1980s, including Osama bin Laden, as evidence that Khashoggi should be understood as hostile to the West. This is an anachronistic view. Khashoggi was reporting on these fighters for an official Saudi newspaper, apparently with some degree of admiration at their faith, commitment, and moxie, at a time when their efforts were supported by the Saudi government. Other Western journalists and commentators—not to mention politicians—were likewise enamored with the mujahideen, during a period when the Reagan administration and Congress worked hand-in-glove with Saudi Arabia to support these insurgents against Soviet occupation. As Ignatius makes clear in the piece cited earlier, Khashoggi “grew wary” of bin Laden and his violent intent toward the United States and the kingdom, and believed Saudis and Arabs needed to be forthright in acknowledging bin Laden’s responsibility for the 9/11 attacks.


With the emergence of reformist Islamist clerics within Saudi Arabia, the rise of Turkey’s Recip Tayyip Erdoğan, and especially after the Arab uprisings of 2011, the kingdom and other traditionalist Arab governments came to view the Brotherhood rather differently. After Brotherhood political parties won elections in Egypt and Tunisia (pluralities, not majorities, in both places), these governments came to understand the Brotherhood as an existential threat: a model of governance that challenged their own authoritarian, monarchical Islamism with populist Islamism rooted in the democratic process (not civil liberties, but the monarchies don’t care much about civil liberties either). Thus began a campaign to re-brand the Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, ideologically indistinguishable from al-Qaida, a threat that must be rooted out with brutal discipline. The kingdom backed Egyptian general Abdel Fattah el-Sisi in overthrowing the (increasingly intolerant) elected government in Egypt and implementing a crackdown that included a massacre of over 800 Egyptians and the imprisonment of tens of thousands. Notably, despite the financial and political commitment King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia made to ousting the Brotherhood in Egypt in 2013, the kingdom itself did not declare it a terrorist group until nearly a year later.

4There’s also a degree of willful blindness and hypocrisy in the kingdom’s current insistence that the Brotherhood presents an intolerable and existential threat: Brotherhood-linked politicians and parties sit in parliaments in Saudi Arabia’s close partners Bahrain and Kuwait, the Brotherhood party in Jordan has long been part of the political scene as a cranky but loyal opposition, and in Morocco the Brotherhood-linked Justice and Development Party has led the ruling coalition for the last two governments. All of these countries are close Saudi partners, close American partners, and strong allies in the fight against violent Islamist extremism. When I have inquired with Saudi and Emirati officials about how their view of the Brotherhood as an existential ideological threat relates to their friendly ties with governments that incorporate Brotherhood actors, they say that each Arab country makes its own sovereign decisions—a view they could hardly abide by if they truly saw this movement as a terrorist organization.

All of this is not to say that the Brotherhood is merely benign, that its tenets are compatible with democracy, or anything else so simplistic. It is merely to say that the story of the kingdom and the Brotherhood is not a simple morality play, and that those claiming Khashoggi’s Brotherhood sympathies as some kind of black mark reveal nothing so much as their ignorance of the kingdom, the region, and its history.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Remember Micheal Hastings, Breitbart, and Scalia....all killed suspiciously right here in USA......BUT...BUT.....THAT Arab dude Trump bad

 

[Sunni Man]

Muslim Brotherhood propagandist or not, it's obvious that the Saudis did it. This is nothing new, as almost every single Muslim country engages in this kind of behavior towards its own critics. The difference is this time it was done on foreign soil, and inside a consulate to a journalist who worked for WAPO, which is basically a Leftist propaganda mouthpiece.

Israel also is known to covertly assassinate people in foreign countries they feel are a threat to the zionist state. ...

 

[Manonthestreet]

And let's not forget Seth Rich......Cameras everywhere but we got no clues dont ya know

 

[Rustic]

Did the Muslim Brotherhood murder their own 'dissident' in order to undermine the Pro-western changes being brought to Saudi Arabia.

President Trump is being wise in NOT taking the bait. A wait & see attitude is PISSING the liberal media off!!!

In high school, Jamal Khashoggi had a good friend. His name was Osama bin Laden.

“We were hoping to establish an Islamic state anywhere,” Khashoggi reminisced about their time together in the Muslim Brotherhood. “We believed that the first one would lead to another, and that would have a domino effect which could reverse the history of mankind.”

The friendship endured with Jamal Khashoggi following Osama bin Laden to Afghanistan. Khashoggi credited Adel Batterjee, listed at one time as one of “the world’s foremost terrorist financiers” by the Treasury Department, with bringing him to Afghanistan to report on the fighting.

But unlike Osama bin Laden, Khashoggi did not use the Muslim Brotherhood as a gateway drug to the pure and uncut violence of Al Qaeda or ISIS. He was still betting on a political takeover.

As he recently put it, “Democracy and political Islam go together.”

Khashoggi went on making the case for the Islamic state of the Muslim Brotherhood. He went on making that case even as the Saudis decided that the Brotherhood had become too dangerous.

Read more at frontpagemag.com ...

The more I read on this guy the less I like him. It seems he was a Media person who had Radical background in the Muzzy world. Could be his killing was not a bad idea. You will never get the truth from our Media. Jamal Khashoggi: The Media Fights for a Muslim Brotherhood Pal of Osama Bin Laden

fyi-


On Jamal Khashoggi, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Saudi Arabia


3Saudi Arabia’s official attitude toward the Muslim Brotherhood today is that the group is a terrorist organization—but this is a relatively recent policy innovation. For decades, while the kingdom was competing for influence in the Arab world with the secular nationalist regimes of Egypt, Iraq, and Syria, Saudi Arabia welcomed to its soil Brotherhood members who were persecuted or unsafe in their home countries. Within the context of the kingdom’s severe state Islamism—forged through the alliance of Ibn Saud and the cleric Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahab—the Brotherhood was acceptable, since the movement’s leadership argued that rulers who implemented Islamic law had religious legitimacy and deserved public support. And the movement’s approach to Islamization through preaching and service did not challenge the authority of the Saudi government and was seen by many Saudis, Jamal Khashoggi apparently included, as a pathway to religious re-interpretation that would enable Saudi Arabia to undertake important societal reforms.

1Yes, Jamal Khashoggi had many friends among the Muslim Brotherhood and, as his colleague David Ignatius reported days after his disappearance, had joined the movement himself as a young man before apparently shifting away from it later in his career. No one who knew Jamal at all is surprised by these facts, no matter with what lurid framing they are now “revealed.” Whatever sympathies and associations he may have had, they do not change the apparent fact that Jamal Khashoggi was kidnapped, murdered, and dismembered to silence his freedom of expression. Those on the right who have spent decades fighting for free speech on campus will leap to tell you, correctly, that freedom of speech demands respect regardless of the political valance of the views espoused—and that protecting the expression of unpopular views that challenge current political correctness is the acid test for the security of this right overall. So even if you believe that Jamal Khashoggi was a full-bore Brotherhood member with an agenda of Islamization for the Arab world, you should still condem his apparent assassination for the crime of speaking his mind.

2This “whisper campaign,” as the Washington Post deemed it, has noted Khashoggi’s embedded reporting about the Arab mujahideen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 1980s, including Osama bin Laden, as evidence that Khashoggi should be understood as hostile to the West. This is an anachronistic view. Khashoggi was reporting on these fighters for an official Saudi newspaper, apparently with some degree of admiration at their faith, commitment, and moxie, at a time when their efforts were supported by the Saudi government. Other Western journalists and commentators—not to mention politicians—were likewise enamored with the mujahideen, during a period when the Reagan administration and Congress worked hand-in-glove with Saudi Arabia to support these insurgents against Soviet occupation. As Ignatius makes clear in the piece cited earlier, Khashoggi “grew wary” of bin Laden and his violent intent toward the United States and the kingdom, and believed Saudis and Arabs needed to be forthright in acknowledging bin Laden’s responsibility for the 9/11 attacks.


With the emergence of reformist Islamist clerics within Saudi Arabia, the rise of Turkey’s Recip Tayyip Erdoğan, and especially after the Arab uprisings of 2011, the kingdom and other traditionalist Arab governments came to view the Brotherhood rather differently. After Brotherhood political parties won elections in Egypt and Tunisia (pluralities, not majorities, in both places), these governments came to understand the Brotherhood as an existential threat: a model of governance that challenged their own authoritarian, monarchical Islamism with populist Islamism rooted in the democratic process (not civil liberties, but the monarchies don’t care much about civil liberties either). Thus began a campaign to re-brand the Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, ideologically indistinguishable from al-Qaida, a threat that must be rooted out with brutal discipline. The kingdom backed Egyptian general Abdel Fattah el-Sisi in overthrowing the (increasingly intolerant) elected government in Egypt and implementing a crackdown that included a massacre of over 800 Egyptians and the imprisonment of tens of thousands. Notably, despite the financial and political commitment King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia made to ousting the Brotherhood in Egypt in 2013, the kingdom itself did not declare it a terrorist group until nearly a year later.

4There’s also a degree of willful blindness and hypocrisy in the kingdom’s current insistence that the Brotherhood presents an intolerable and existential threat: Brotherhood-linked politicians and parties sit in parliaments in Saudi Arabia’s close partners Bahrain and Kuwait, the Brotherhood party in Jordan has long been part of the political scene as a cranky but loyal opposition, and in Morocco the Brotherhood-linked Justice and Development Party has led the ruling coalition for the last two governments. All of these countries are close Saudi partners, close American partners, and strong allies in the fight against violent Islamist extremism. When I have inquired with Saudi and Emirati officials about how their view of the Brotherhood as an existential ideological threat relates to their friendly ties with governments that incorporate Brotherhood actors, they say that each Arab country makes its own sovereign decisions—a view they could hardly abide by if they truly saw this movement as a terrorist organization.

All of this is not to say that the Brotherhood is merely benign, that its tenets are compatible with democracy, or anything else so simplistic. It is merely to say that the story of the kingdom and the Brotherhood is not a simple morality play, and that those claiming Khashoggi’s Brotherhood sympathies as some kind of black mark reveal nothing so much as their ignorance of the kingdom, the region, and its history.

Muslims killing another Muslim that is the norm… The most violent culture the world has ever known is the Muslim culture

 

[Roudy]

Muslim Brotherhood propagandist or not, it's obvious that the Saudis did it. This is nothing new, as almost every single Muslim country engages in this kind of behavior towards its own critics. The difference is this time it was done on foreign soil, and inside a consulate to a journalist who worked for WAPO, which is basically a Leftist propaganda mouthpiece.

Israel also is known to covertly assassinate people in foreign countries they feel are a threat to the zionist state. ...

Funny thing is neither Saudi Arabia nor Israel made it to the list of countries most dangerous for journalists. This whole situation with Saudi Arabia seems to be an exception, and arisen out of the new crown prince not knowing the limits of what he can and can't do:

13 countries where journalists have been killed with impunity

The index, published annually to mark the International day to end impunity for crimes against journalists on 2 November, calculates the number of unsolved murders over a 10-year period as a percentage of each country’s population.

For the current edition, CPJ analysed journalist murders that took place between 1 September 2006 and 31 August, 2016. Only those nations with five or more unsolved cases for this period are included on the index — a threshold that 13 countries met this year, compared with 14 last year.

In rank order (with the numbers of unsolved murders in brackets) they are: 1.Somalia (24); 2. Iraq (71); 3. Syria (17); 4. Philippines (41); 5. South Sudan (5); 6.Mexico (21); 7. Afghanistan (5); 8. Pakistan (21); 9. Brazil (15); 10. Russia (9); 11.Bangladesh (7); 12. Nigeria (5); 13. India (13).

And here's a more reliable source, once again, no sign of Saudi Arabia on the list.

JOURNALISTS KILLED | Reporters without borders

 

[Roudy]

Did the Muslim Brotherhood murder their own 'dissident' in order to undermine the Pro-western changes being brought to Saudi Arabia.

President Trump is being wise in NOT taking the bait. A wait & see attitude is PISSING the liberal media off!!!

In high school, Jamal Khashoggi had a good friend. His name was Osama bin Laden.

“We were hoping to establish an Islamic state anywhere,” Khashoggi reminisced about their time together in the Muslim Brotherhood. “We believed that the first one would lead to another, and that would have a domino effect which could reverse the history of mankind.”

The friendship endured with Jamal Khashoggi following Osama bin Laden to Afghanistan. Khashoggi credited Adel Batterjee, listed at one time as one of “the world’s foremost terrorist financiers” by the Treasury Department, with bringing him to Afghanistan to report on the fighting.

But unlike Osama bin Laden, Khashoggi did not use the Muslim Brotherhood as a gateway drug to the pure and uncut violence of Al Qaeda or ISIS. He was still betting on a political takeover.

As he recently put it, “Democracy and political Islam go together.”

Khashoggi went on making the case for the Islamic state of the Muslim Brotherhood. He went on making that case even as the Saudis decided that the Brotherhood had become too dangerous.

Read more at frontpagemag.com ...

The more I read on this guy the less I like him. It seems he was a Media person who had Radical background in the Muzzy world. Could be his killing was not a bad idea. You will never get the truth from our Media. Jamal Khashoggi: The Media Fights for a Muslim Brotherhood Pal of Osama Bin Laden

fyi-


On Jamal Khashoggi, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Saudi Arabia


3Saudi Arabia’s official attitude toward the Muslim Brotherhood today is that the group is a terrorist organization—but this is a relatively recent policy innovation. For decades, while the kingdom was competing for influence in the Arab world with the secular nationalist regimes of Egypt, Iraq, and Syria, Saudi Arabia welcomed to its soil Brotherhood members who were persecuted or unsafe in their home countries. Within the context of the kingdom’s severe state Islamism—forged through the alliance of Ibn Saud and the cleric Muhammed ibn Abdul Wahab—the Brotherhood was acceptable, since the movement’s leadership argued that rulers who implemented Islamic law had religious legitimacy and deserved public support. And the movement’s approach to Islamization through preaching and service did not challenge the authority of the Saudi government and was seen by many Saudis, Jamal Khashoggi apparently included, as a pathway to religious re-interpretation that would enable Saudi Arabia to undertake important societal reforms.

1Yes, Jamal Khashoggi had many friends among the Muslim Brotherhood and, as his colleague David Ignatius reported days after his disappearance, had joined the movement himself as a young man before apparently shifting away from it later in his career. No one who knew Jamal at all is surprised by these facts, no matter with what lurid framing they are now “revealed.” Whatever sympathies and associations he may have had, they do not change the apparent fact that Jamal Khashoggi was kidnapped, murdered, and dismembered to silence his freedom of expression. Those on the right who have spent decades fighting for free speech on campus will leap to tell you, correctly, that freedom of speech demands respect regardless of the political valance of the views espoused—and that protecting the expression of unpopular views that challenge current political correctness is the acid test for the security of this right overall. So even if you believe that Jamal Khashoggi was a full-bore Brotherhood member with an agenda of Islamization for the Arab world, you should still condem his apparent assassination for the crime of speaking his mind.

2This “whisper campaign,” as the Washington Post deemed it, has noted Khashoggi’s embedded reporting about the Arab mujahideen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 1980s, including Osama bin Laden, as evidence that Khashoggi should be understood as hostile to the West. This is an anachronistic view. Khashoggi was reporting on these fighters for an official Saudi newspaper, apparently with some degree of admiration at their faith, commitment, and moxie, at a time when their efforts were supported by the Saudi government. Other Western journalists and commentators—not to mention politicians—were likewise enamored with the mujahideen, during a period when the Reagan administration and Congress worked hand-in-glove with Saudi Arabia to support these insurgents against Soviet occupation. As Ignatius makes clear in the piece cited earlier, Khashoggi “grew wary” of bin Laden and his violent intent toward the United States and the kingdom, and believed Saudis and Arabs needed to be forthright in acknowledging bin Laden’s responsibility for the 9/11 attacks.


With the emergence of reformist Islamist clerics within Saudi Arabia, the rise of Turkey’s Recip Tayyip Erdoğan, and especially after the Arab uprisings of 2011, the kingdom and other traditionalist Arab governments came to view the Brotherhood rather differently. After Brotherhood political parties won elections in Egypt and Tunisia (pluralities, not majorities, in both places), these governments came to understand the Brotherhood as an existential threat: a model of governance that challenged their own authoritarian, monarchical Islamism with populist Islamism rooted in the democratic process (not civil liberties, but the monarchies don’t care much about civil liberties either). Thus began a campaign to re-brand the Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, ideologically indistinguishable from al-Qaida, a threat that must be rooted out with brutal discipline. The kingdom backed Egyptian general Abdel Fattah el-Sisi in overthrowing the (increasingly intolerant) elected government in Egypt and implementing a crackdown that included a massacre of over 800 Egyptians and the imprisonment of tens of thousands. Notably, despite the financial and political commitment King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia made to ousting the Brotherhood in Egypt in 2013, the kingdom itself did not declare it a terrorist group until nearly a year later.

4There’s also a degree of willful blindness and hypocrisy in the kingdom’s current insistence that the Brotherhood presents an intolerable and existential threat: Brotherhood-linked politicians and parties sit in parliaments in Saudi Arabia’s close partners Bahrain and Kuwait, the Brotherhood party in Jordan has long been part of the political scene as a cranky but loyal opposition, and in Morocco the Brotherhood-linked Justice and Development Party has led the ruling coalition for the last two governments. All of these countries are close Saudi partners, close American partners, and strong allies in the fight against violent Islamist extremism. When I have inquired with Saudi and Emirati officials about how their view of the Brotherhood as an existential ideological threat relates to their friendly ties with governments that incorporate Brotherhood actors, they say that each Arab country makes its own sovereign decisions—a view they could hardly abide by if they truly saw this movement as a terrorist organization.

All of this is not to say that the Brotherhood is merely benign, that its tenets are compatible with democracy, or anything else so simplistic. It is merely to say that the story of the kingdom and the Brotherhood is not a simple morality play, and that those claiming Khashoggi’s Brotherhood sympathies as some kind of black mark reveal nothing so much as their ignorance of the kingdom, the region, and its history.

Muslims killing another Muslim that is the norm… The most violent culture the world has ever known is the Muslim culture

With Erdogan trying to turn Turkey into an Islamofacist state, Turkey itself has recently been accused of threatening, killing and torturing many of its own journalists.

Censorship in Turkey - Wikipedia

Despite legal provisions, media freedom in Turkey has steadily deteriorated from 2010 onwards, with a precipitous decline following the attempted coup in July 2016.[2][3] President Tayyip Erdoğan has arrested hundreds of journalists, closed or taken over dozens of media outlets, and prevented journalists and their families from traveling. By some accounts, Turkey currently accounts for one-third of all journalists imprisoned around the world.[4]

Since 2013, Freedom House ranks Turkey as "Not Free".[2] Reporters Without Borders ranked Turkey at the 149th place out of over 180 countries, between Mexico and DR Congo, with a score of 44.16.[5] In the third quarter of 2015, the independent Turkish press agency Bianet recorded a strengthening of attacks on the opposition media during the Justice and Development Party (AKP) interim government.[6] Bianet's final 2015 monitoring report confirmed this trend and underlined that once regained majority after the AKP interim government period, the Turkish government further intensified its pressure on the country's media.[7]

 

[Care4all]

Did the Muslim Brotherhood murder their own 'dissident' in order to undermine the Pro-western changes being brought to Saudi Arabia.

President Trump is being wise in NOT taking the bait. A wait & see attitude is PISSING the liberal media off!!!

In high school, Jamal Khashoggi had a good friend. His name was Osama bin Laden.

“We were hoping to establish an Islamic state anywhere,” Khashoggi reminisced about their time together in the Muslim Brotherhood. “We believed that the first one would lead to another, and that would have a domino effect which could reverse the history of mankind.”

The friendship endured with Jamal Khashoggi following Osama bin Laden to Afghanistan. Khashoggi credited Adel Batterjee, listed at one time as one of “the world’s foremost terrorist financiers” by the Treasury Department, with bringing him to Afghanistan to report on the fighting.

But unlike Osama bin Laden, Khashoggi did not use the Muslim Brotherhood as a gateway drug to the pure and uncut violence of Al Qaeda or ISIS. He was still betting on a political takeover.

As he recently put it, “Democracy and political Islam go together.”

Khashoggi went on making the case for the Islamic state of the Muslim Brotherhood. He went on making that case even as the Saudis decided that the Brotherhood had become too dangerous.

Read more at frontpagemag.com ...

Oh silly one.....

We cheered Osama Bin Laden and the likes, when he was fighting the Russians back in the 1980's against the Russians, did we not? Of course we did, we, our CIA, even trained him.... from what I have read on it...

but our opinion of him changed over time, and so did Khashoggi's....and Saudi Arabia's on the Muslim Brotherhood.

 

[longknife]

The guy was NOT a journalist! He wrote OpEds, mostly against the ruling Saudi family.

What business does the US have in his demise?

Absolutely none!