Jack Bauer does TV ad for healthcare reform

[Zona]

So....your saying that Keifer is an authority on Healthcare?
Who's next? Homer, and Bart coming out with a pro healthcare documentary?

What are your thoughts on Jon Voight's views on this? He is against it, so I am sure he is more credible?

I don't care either way, from what I understand, 24 is pretty good. BRB, gotta run to any major store that pulled advertisement off of Beck and buy it.

 

[Zona]

Photo shop...Dr. House...comments?

 

[Zoom-boing]

Photo shop...Dr. House...comments?

And your point is? Never mind, I don't care.

 

[Ravi]

Funny.

I guess the right wing nuts that get off on watching him torture people will now drop 24 like a rock.

 

[HUGGY]

YouTube - Kiefer Sutherland on the Need for Progressive Health Care Reform in America

kiefer sutherland's opinion is almost as meaningful to me as donald sutherland's.

Southerlands grandfather a former member of canadas parliment is one of the most revered Canadians for being the man attributed with enacting thier health care system. Keep that in mind Obama.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Funny.

I guess the right wing nuts that get off on watching him torture people will now drop 24 like a rock.

You're probably right

Speak with your wallet or viewing habits.


I'll keep watching, not even the jackass Jenine Garafolo could keep me from watching, and I hate her for lying about who I am calling me derogatory names.

 

[Meister]

So....your saying that Keifer is an authority on Healthcare?
Who's next? Homer, and Bart coming out with a pro healthcare documentary?

What are your thoughts on Jon Voight's views on this? He is against it, so I am sure he is more credible?

I don't care either way, from what I understand, 24 is pretty good. BRB, gotta run to any major store that pulled advertisement off of Beck and buy it.

I have no idea what Voight's view is on this or that it makes a difference to me. I don't look to a movie or television star...or a rock star to get a so called informative opinion. I wonder how much they pay those people to read a script on healthcare?

 

[Truthmatters]

Tommy Douglas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thomas Clement "Tommy" Douglas, PC, CC, SOM (20 October 1904 – 24 February 1986) was a Scottish-born Baptist minister who became a prominent Canadian social democratic politician. As leader of the Saskatchewan Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (CCF) from 1942 and the seventh Premier of Saskatchewan from 1944 to 1961, he led the first socialist government in North America and introduced universal public healthcare to Canada. When the CCF united with the Canadian Labour Congress to form the New Democratic Party, he was elected as its first federal leader and served in that post from 1961 to 1971. He is warmly remembered for his folksy wit and oratory with which he expressed his determined idealism, exemplified by his fable of Mouseland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiefer_Sutherland#Family_and_relationships
Early life
Sutherland was born in London, England, the son of Donald Sutherland and Shirley Douglas, both of whom are successful Canadian actors.[2] He has Scottish ancestry from both parents and is the grandson of Canadian politicianTommy Douglas , the man who brought universal health care to Canada. Sutherland and his twin sister, Rachel, were born in London (in Saint Mary's Hospital, Paddington) while his parents were working there. As a result, he is both a British citizen (by jus soli) and a Canadian citizen (by jus sanguinis).

Your 24 guy who made torture look glamerous is not who you think

 

[PoliticalChic]

YouTube - Kiefer Sutherland on the Need for Progressive Health Care Reform in America

The NEA becomes the propaganda arm of Obama

Before, during, and after the Russian Revolution in 1917, visual and performing artists sympathetic to the ideals of Marxism and the Russian Bolshevik movement enthusiastically used their talents to help the Communist state and larger international movement of communism. Soviet artists became willing propagandists for the state, using new styles and visual designs to support and promote the Soviet state. The result were images like the one shown above; visually startling but propaganda nonetheless.

It was an unholy alliance between artist and state, one that is apparently being re-born….

The NEA becomes the propaganda arm of Obama | The Real Revo


It's time for even the left-wing Americans to wake up.

 

[Truthmatters]

So you think that celebrities should have their freedom of speech taken away?

Ones like Chuck Norris ?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

YouTube - Kiefer Sutherland on the Need for Progressive Health Care Reform in America

kiefer sutherland's opinion is almost as meaningful to me as donald sutherland's.

Southerlands grandfather a former member of canadas parliment is one of the most revered Canadians for being the man attributed with enacting thier health care system. Keep that in mind Obama.

Yes, he's done quite a job.

Nine of 10 middle-aged American women (89 percent) have had a mammogram, compared to less than three-fourths of Canadians (72 percent).

Nearly all American women (96 percent) have had a pap smear, compared to less than 90 percent of Canadians.

More than half of American men (54 percent) have had a PSA test, compared to less than 1 in 6 Canadians (16 percent).

Nearly one-third of Americans (30 percent) have had a colonoscopy, compared with less than 1 in 20 Canadians (5 percent).

When asked about their own health care instead of the "health care system," more than half of Americans (51.3 percent) are very satisfied with their health care services, compared to only 41.5 percent of Canadians; a lower proportion of Americans are dissatisfied (6.8 percent) than Canadians (8.5 percent).

 

[HUGGY]

kiefer sutherland's opinion is almost as meaningful to me as donald sutherland's.

Southerlands grandfather a former member of canadas parliment is one of the most revered Canadians for being the man attributed with enacting thier health care system. Keep that in mind Obama.

Yes, he's done quite a job.

Nine of 10 middle-aged American women (89 percent) have had a mammogram, compared to less than three-fourths of Canadians (72 percent).

Nearly all American women (96 percent) have had a pap smear, compared to less than 90 percent of Canadians.

More than half of American men (54 percent) have had a PSA test, compared to less than 1 in 6 Canadians (16 percent).

Nearly one-third of Americans (30 percent) have had a colonoscopy, compared with less than 1 in 20 Canadians (5 percent).

When asked about their own health care instead of the "health care system," more than half of Americans (51.3 percent) are very satisfied with their health care services, compared to only 41.5 percent of Canadians; a lower proportion of Americans are dissatisfied (6.8 percent) than Canadians (8.5 percent).

I do not believe you. Please provide references for the tripe you have listed above.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So you think that celebrities should have their freedom of speech taken away?

Ones like Chuck Norris ?

Don't you get it?

The government is pressing the art community into becoming a propaganda arm.

How thick can you be? Insert Bush in place of Obama, and tell me your view.

The purpose of the NEA is to ecourage the American people to integrate art and art appreciation into their daily lives.

The Obama use of the NEA for propaganda is a bastardization of the purpose of the National Endowment for the Arts.

"Backed by the full weight of President Barack Obama’s call to service and the institutional weight of the NEA, the conference call was billed as an opportunity for those in the art community to inspire service in four key categories, and at the top of the list were “health care” and “energy and environment.” The service was to be attached to the President’s United We Serve campaign, a nationwide federal initiative to make service a way of life for all Americans.

It sounded, how should I phrase it…unusual, that the NEA would invite the art community to a meeting to discuss issues currently under vehement national debate. I decided to call in, and what I heard concerned me.

...

We were encouraged to bring the same sense of enthusiasm to these “focus areas” as we had brought to Obama’s presidential campaign, and we were encouraged to create art and art initiatives that brought awareness to these issues. Throughout the conversation, we were reminded of our ability as artists and art professionals to “shape the lives” of those around us. The now famous Obama “Hope” poster, created by artist Shepard Fairey and promoted by many of those on the phone call, and will.i.am’s “Yes We Can” song and music video were presented as shining examples of our group’s clear role in the election."
Inevitable: NEA Pushes Artists to Begin Making Obama Propaganda

What happened to an understanding of right and wrong?

 

[Truthmatters]

YouTube - Kiefer Sutherland on the Need for Progressive Health Care Reform in America

The NEA becomes the propaganda arm of Obama

Before, during, and after the Russian Revolution in 1917, visual and performing artists sympathetic to the ideals of Marxism and the Russian Bolshevik movement enthusiastically used their talents to help the Communist state and larger international movement of communism. Soviet artists became willing propagandists for the state, using new styles and visual designs to support and promote the Soviet state. The result were images like the one shown above; visually startling but propaganda nonetheless.

It was an unholy alliance between artist and state, one that is apparently being re-born….

The NEA becomes the propaganda arm of Obama | The Real Revo


It's time for even the left-wing Americans to wake up.

If no threat exists, why not make one up if it helps you feel relevant? - What Would Jack Do?

Its all bullshit my dear

 

[PoliticalChic]

YouTube - Kiefer Sutherland on the Need for Progressive Health Care Reform in America

The NEA becomes the propaganda arm of Obama

Before, during, and after the Russian Revolution in 1917, visual and performing artists sympathetic to the ideals of Marxism and the Russian Bolshevik movement enthusiastically used their talents to help the Communist state and larger international movement of communism. Soviet artists became willing propagandists for the state, using new styles and visual designs to support and promote the Soviet state. The result were images like the one shown above; visually startling but propaganda nonetheless.

It was an unholy alliance between artist and state, one that is apparently being re-born….

The NEA becomes the propaganda arm of Obama | The Real Revo


It's time for even the left-wing Americans to wake up.

If no threat exists, why not make one up if it helps you feel relevant? - What Would Jack Do?

Its all bullshit my dear

Neither am I your dear, nor are you able to objectively view the infection of the American system by this pathological administration.

Hopefully, the American electorate will make the corrections that you are unequipped to.


"State-sponsored artists pushed into creating state-sponsored art that glorifies the state? And is specifically sympathetic to the ruling political leader and his policies?

This makes images like this one go through my head: Lenin"
Is Obama Trying To Use The NEA As His Own Personal Propaganda Machine? | Say Anything: North Dakota's Most Popular Political Blog

 

[Truthmatters]

Why did the NEA include in its list of people to invite to inspire discussion through art a guy who is a known Libertarian Obama hater?

maybe you should rethink your propaganda push

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

So you think that celebrities should have their freedom of speech taken away?

Ones like Chuck Norris ?

I dont feel that way at all.

They should have the same freedom of speech as me, and being public figures they should have to deal with the criticizm of their stated opinions.

 

[Truthmatters]

As they are.

Lies are not the same as criticism

 

[del]

As they are.

Lies are not the same as criticism

well, you'd be the expert on one.

 

[Bfgrn]

YouTube - Kiefer Sutherland on the Need for Progressive Health Care Reform in America

kiefer sutherland's opinion is almost as meaningful to me as donald sutherland's.

Pea brainism...yea, the REAL person's opinion is meaningless, but the FICTIONAL character's torture techniques are a rallying cry of the right as REAL world...