manifold
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At least that's what has been written into law in Missouri.
New Mo. abortion law counters some philosophy, theology
New Mo. abortion law counters some philosophy, theology
It's Official: Life begins at conception
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iamwhatiseem
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I'm looking for really hot gals..say mid 20's..to test out this theory with me.
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It will be a sacrifice...but someone has to do it.
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edthecynic
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Actually the bible is quite clear as to when mankind becomes a living soul. Obviously nobody believes the bible no matter what they might say to the contrary!
Gen 2: 7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
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Ravi
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I'd love to know the "logic" that led to that belief. 
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Abortion will terminate the life of a separate, unique, living human being.
Then if that is the standard, that from the moment of conception those cells are a "separate life, unique, living human being, Cesarean Section out what ever is there, sit it on the table and see how long it lives.
Note that i am very specific in the term Cesarean Section, a careful removal of the cells.
Missourian
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I have yet to meet anyone who's life didn't begin with conception.
Zoom-boing
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If you remove the unborn prior to them being able to survive out of the uterus on their own what you will have is a separate life, unique, dead human being.
Pretty logical that human life begins at conception.
"Birth was the death of him." Samuel Beckett
If one can argue that potential is life then a number of things create ethical questions. Two or three of five conceptions end normally, naturally. Who are these cells? Each month a woman of a certain age (and marital status) contains potential life? Who are these cells? Of the millions of sperm, each one is unique and different. Who are these missing people? And if potentiality is key, is suicide or murder OK as that's where we are headed anyway?
"In the 1950s, about a million illegal abortions a year were performed in the U.S., and over a thousand women died each year as a result. Women who were victims of botched or unsanitary abortions came in desperation to hospital emergency wards, where some died of widespread abdominal infections. Many women who recovered from such infections found themselves sterile or chronically and painfully ill. The enormous emotional stress often lasted a long time."
HISTORY OF ABORTION
Boston Review — Judith Jarvis Thomson
"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." Edward Abbey
If one can argue that potential is life then a number of things create ethical questions. Two or three of five conceptions end normally, naturally. Who are these cells? Each month a woman of a certain age (and marital status) contains potential life? Who are these cells? Of the millions of sperm, each one is unique and different. Who are these missing people? And if potentiality is key, is suicide or murder OK as that's where we are headed anyway?
"In the 1950s, about a million illegal abortions a year were performed in the U.S., and over a thousand women died each year as a result. Women who were victims of botched or unsanitary abortions came in desperation to hospital emergency wards, where some died of widespread abdominal infections. Many women who recovered from such infections found themselves sterile or chronically and painfully ill. The enormous emotional stress often lasted a long time."
HISTORY OF ABORTION
Boston Review — Judith Jarvis Thomson
"Abolition of a woman's right to abortion, when and if she wants it, amounts to compulsory maternity: a form of rape by the State." Edward Abbey
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The Infidel
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You are free to believe what you will, but at the moment of conception that product is a unique separate individual that never existed before and never will again (unless of course you believe in reincarnation). Call it what you will abortion is the killing of innocents. If life is not sacred, what is? Peace, Love, and Faith. Pappadave
since life begins at conception, will they ban the practice of frozen embryo incineration/ the disposal of the frozen embryos after the mother has decided she wants no more children?
since life begins at conception of a separate human being, will they give the tax write off for children to the pregnant mom, and the taqx child credit to the pregnant mom on their tax returns?
Will a mother with expecting twins get 2 child tax credits?
Will they issue birth certificates at conception or is that a different thing?
Also, conception does not MEAN pregnancy, and it takes a couple of days for the woman to become pregnant after the conception for the fertilized egg to attach to the uterus or fallopian tubes with an ectopic pregnancy ...and from what i believe I have read is that more than 50% of fertilized eggs do not make it to the pregnancy stage....so the new human being was already conceived but naturally aborted, so to say? Wonder how that fits in?
Anyway, I believe life does begin at conception, without conception, there would be no new human being born... at a later stage of development....none....not you nor me would be here, without conception, so just logically, this has to be the beginning of, us....and of all living creatures.
but i do not agree with this state putting it in to law, I think it opens a whole can of legal issues that they are not prepared to answer or address.
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jillian
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So, the soul enters the human body AFTER it is formed, and AFTER it takes its first breath of life, as this passage implies???
So, the soul enters the human body AFTER it is formed, and AFTER it takes its first breath of life, as this passage implies???
Who knows whether the soul exists before conception or at what precise point God assigns the soul to the developing human being? He sure hasn't advised me and I'm not sure we will ever be privy to know that. Nor can we know more than generally at what precise moment any developing baby will become viable outside the womb. Is a baby who has to be incubated in order to survive viable?
Yet no woman has ever announced that she is pregnant with a zygote or an embryo. She announces that she is pregnant with a baby, a developing human being, somebody who if carried to full term will be a unique and individual person with an identity, personality, and unique skills and abilities.
Somewhere in there is value of human life, but until we can agree on when human life is to be valued, it seems to me that the exquisite language of Roe v Wade, strictly interpreted, is the best we can do to put the matter into law.
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Or who's life didn't begin with ejaculation.
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