Israel’s Big Lie of “Self-Defence”

[Shusha]

You're not indigenous! You moved there at the turn of the last century. Before that, there was approximately 1 million residents in Palestine with only 10% being Palestinian-Jews.

Of course the Jewish people are indigenous to Israel, Judea, and Samaria. That is where their culture, religion, language, and way of living originated. If you dig in the land, you find Jewish history, Hebrew culture.

 

[Billo_Really]

That was hilarious!

Could Nasser have been a bigger idiot?

I think he was.

 

[Billo_Really]

Of course the Jewish people are indigenous to Israel, Judea, and Samaria. That is where their culture, religion, language, and way of living originated. If you dig in the land, you find Jewish history, Hebrew culture.

That's right! But at the time of the Zionist migration, you were only 10% of the population.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's right! But at the time of the Zionist migration, you were only 10% of the population.

And now they're about 80%.

 

[Billo_Really]

The 1948 War of Independence started with Israeli tanks rolling into Egypt? I think you are confused.

You said Egypt crossed international borders. That is in reference to the '67 war.

 

[Shusha]

You said Egypt crossed international borders. That is in reference to the '67 war.

No. That was a reference to the 1948 war.

 

[Shusha]

That's right! But at the time of the Zionist migration, you were only 10% of the population.

Still. As an indigenous peoples, with a homeland in that place, the Jewish people have a claim to some form of self-determination there, yes? Not to all of it. But, certainly to some of it. I think you agree with me?

 

[HeyNorm]

Zionist Aspirations in Palestine - 20.07

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How’d that pride parade in Gaza city go?

 

[HeyNorm]

Your Honor, prosecution rests. You can take junior back to pre-school.

Your Honor? Like the honor killings women endure in Gaza.

You still haven’t explained why you hate Women?

 

[USAF 2023]

Name one country on the planet that says that. Just one. I'm waiting...so no, you can't. The position of the entire world, regards these as the occupied territories since 1967.

Yet is was OK for the Arabs to occupy Israel with the Blessing of the UN? Don’t think so!

 

[Billo_Really]

Oh, come on. You know I care about humanity. You've said so yourself. Totally guilty on the arrogant, though. I know a LOT more about the topic, especially the legal issues, than most people.

So, work with me here instead of throwing around insults. My assertion is that Israel has a sovereign claim to the territories in question. That sovereign claim arises from the 1948 Declaration of Independence based on the borders of the administrative units which preceded the independence. This is exactly the same as the claims of Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon to their territories. The procedure was the same, as it must be unless you discriminate against Israel (Jews).

If you disagree with this assertion - make an argument against it. Prove that Israel had DIFFERENT borders in 1948 and show me the documentation to prove it.

I have made the argument. UN resolution 242. That is the legal position on these territories. You disagree, because you have no concept of fairness.

Of course the Jewish people are indigenous to Israel, Judea, and Samaria. That is where their culture, religion, language, and way of living originated. If you dig in the land, you find Jewish history, Hebrew culture.

The same is true for the Palestinians. They have as much claim to that land as you do.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I have made the argument. UN resolution 242. That is the legal position on these territories. You disagree, because you have no concept of fairness.

The pallies don't want peace, fuck 'em.

 

[Billo_Really]

Yet is was OK for the Arabs to occupy Israel with the Blessing of the UN? Don’t think so!

You fucking POS, GFY!

 

[Billo_Really]

The pallies don't want peace, fuck 'em.

You got that ass backwards, it's Israel that doesn't want peace.

Your Honor? Like the honor killings women endure in Gaza.

You still haven’t explained why you hate Women?

Why would I hate women?

 

[Billo_Really]

Still. As an indigenous peoples, with a homeland in that place, the Jewish people have a claim to some form of self-determination there, yes? Not to all of it. But, certainly to some of it. I think you agree with me?

To some degree.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You got that ass backwards, it's Israel that doesn't want peace.

Israel offered land for peace several times.

 

[surada]

Wrong. Not an occupying power. Gaza was not occupied

It's controlled by Israel like the Warsaw ghetto was controlled by Hitler.

 

[USAF 2023]

You fucking POS, GFY!

 

[Yarddog]

It's controlled by Israel like the Warsaw ghetto was controlled by Hitler.

How so? because Israel was supplying them with free power? whats wrong with Egypt? why don they make a trade deal with Gaza? they also share a border.

 

[Yarddog]

Israel offered land for peace several times.

Yeah but then these Leftists will respond with, "why should Palestinians make peace with an oppressor?"
The whole oppressor part being very subjective. They would rather see palestinians always as victims then, trapped in a cycle. They love victims to exist.