Israeli-Arabs riot - "We want Intifada"

[P F Tinmore]

Billo_Really, et al,

Well, isn't that just precious.

How convenient? You never take responsibility for the shit your society causes.

(COMMENT)

History is full of mistakes, from the apple that Eve ate, to the present day. To be sure, America is nothing like the prefect society of Palestinians. America has defended the weak, freed the oppressed, and made some of the biggest blunders that a Superpower can make. But we try to do good. Society is what it is. Rest assured that the society who's Grand Mufti was a Nazi collaborator, who's Commander of the Holy War Army was a member of the Special Commando Unit of the Waffen SS, who's Leader of the Arab Liberation Army was award the German Iron Cross, that orchestrated the Munich Massacre, or hijacked EgyptAir Flight 648, killing 60 people, has the kind of society that everyone yearns to immolate. They want to be just like those brave men that threw a wheelchair bound passenger overboard from the MS Achille Lauro. They want a society that strives for peace, even if they fail.

The US is blamed for every ill in the world... Don't worry about us taking the blame, we are use to it and have broad shoulder. We are not perfect.

In contrast, the Palestinian are the perpetual victim, always whining; but never making the effort to secure peace.

Many of the problems that the Palestinians experience today, the Palestinians brought upon themselves.

Most Respectfully,
R

Not mistakes. Criminal policies.



Of course this is only a partial list.

 

[Billo_Really]

Not mistakes. Criminal policies.



Of course this is only a partial list.

I forget when it happened, sometime after we invaded Iraq, but this is a true story...

...at the UN, when our Ambassador complained about Libya's (or Syria's) human rights violations, many members in the General Assembly just broke out in laughter.

 

[Phoenall]

Failed logic- it's like saying if criminals murder and steal then it means the state treats them badly. No they're treated equaly and they commit crimes because they chose so, then call for MORE MURDERS of fellow citizens-just proves their criminal moivation even more.


Yes they are treated well just like any other Israeli, better than in any other Arab country where they're not even allowed citizenship or basic rights.
But I see them raising the fake balestinian flag from within Israel- we don't see them changing/denouncing their Zionist citizenship, paying taxes and receiving all the services from that govt., the govt. which they oppose he existence of- WHY THEY CHOOSE TO KEEp THE ISRAELI CIIZENSHIp?

Israel’s Arab political parties have united
Arab Israeli wins Maccabiah gold
First female Arab soldier joins elite unit 669
Israeli Arab Bnei Sakhnin Wins State Cup Final

You're full of shit!

People who have it good, don't riot just to be criminals.

People who are treated well, don't have anything to riot about.

The problem is you, not them.

Tell that to the snobs that rioted in London last week, the well heeled on 7 figure salaries and company perks



Shoreditch Cereal Killer Cafe targeted in anti-gentrification protests


Cereal café riot leader lives in a £600,000 London house


They were treated very well so why did they riot against themselves ?


The problem is far too many are brainwashed

 

[Phoenall]

Billo_Really, et al,

The propensity to "riot" as an outcome instigated by triggering chronic criminal behaviors, intentionally aggravated by group group dynamics as a politically induced or motivated by a dysfunctional influence. In this case, in the recent news, there were three psychological processes occurring within a social group of pathological perpetrators:

• The Islamic madness that accompanies the occurrence of any abnormal activity on the Temple Mount and the Old City of Jerusalem; as well as, the irrational fear that the Mosques of Omar and Al-Aqsa might be damaged or destroyed.
• Political personalities, under the cover of free speech, ratchet up anti-Zionist Rhetoric like that of Knesset Member Haneen Zoabi, amplification of protest slogans (of the day).
• The impact of the gradually increasing cycle of violence that generally results in a corresponding increased security measures; which then is again protested by sympathetic Arab-Israelis as each level of disturbance is met with the corresponding security response.
​

About 500 Arab-Israelis demonstrated in 6 locations in the north of Israel, following the clashes (and terror attacks) in Jerusalem and against IDF operations in Judea and Smaria.
In Nazareth a stone was thrown on a bus, wheels set on fire and the entrance blocked.
Among other location are Sfaram, Baeina, Baka el-Garbiyah, Kana and Taiybe.

You said Arabs in Israel were treated well?
People who are treated well, don't riot.

(JUST AS A SIDE NOTE ON TREATMENT - A bit off-topic --- skip if you want!)

As I was browsing the news today and doing some fact-checking, this older article captured my attention.

In Israeli jails, Palestinians still earning degrees
Despite a 2011 ban, prisoners reportedly pursuing higher education in secret
BY MOHAMMED DARAGHMEH January 28, 2014,

Abu Muhsin is among hundreds of Palestinians who have spent their time in Israeli prison pursuing higher education — a program that was supported by the Israeli prison system for two decades until it was cut in 2011 as part of a series of sanctions against prisoners. Since then, prisoners secretly have organized their own courses, with backing from universities in the West Bank and Gaza, Palestinian officials say.​

It was one of several articles used as an example of the difference the security environment makes. Suggesting that in a prison, even a convicted murderer can become an accomplished academic (in this case to the Doctoral level) because the student was removed from the cycle of violence.

(COMMENT)

When I was a student at The Ohio State University (OSU) (Columbus) it was not uncommon to see very large protests. During the Vietnam War, The OSU Campus had a population of 45,000 people (Faculty, Staff, Students). Back then, you could put together a demonstration of 5,000 students --- just to protect the rough toilet paper used on campus. This is an example of the Group Mentality and its vulnerability. Being a graduate of OSU, I knew many student participant the demonstrated everything from the Vietnam War to the treatment of the Gray Squirrel population on campus. And many of these students openly admit that they did not care about the focus of the demonstration; they just wanted the experience to participate in something bigger then themselves. And, they got caught up in the emotion of the moment.

The violence, riots and rough demonstrations of the Hostile Arab-Palestinian (HoAP) is much like my observation at OSU. Except, that the HoAP, being Islamic (for the most part) to start with, and coming from a dysfunctional society that base their entire existence on violence, turn an otherwise peaceful pursuit --- violent. Remember, if you are a member of the population set of HoAP, you either know a insurgent or terrorist --- or know someone who knows an insurgent or terrorist. The area has a very high density of Jihadists and Fedayeen. Violence over the most minor of incidents is the easiest solution for them to derive.

Most Respectfully,
R

How convenient? You never take responsibility for the shit your society causes.

Like you and your countries land grabs, genocides and lynchings, when will you take responsibility for those actions. Don't forget they were happening in the early party of the 20C, the same time as the palestinian problems were going on

 

[Phoenall]

Not mistakes. Criminal policies.



Of course this is only a partial list.

I forget when it happened, sometime after we invaded Iraq, but this is a true story...

...at the UN, when our Ambassador complained about Libya's (or Syria's) human rights violations, many members in the General Assembly just broke out in laughter.

Which is typical because they don't want to upset the muslims, but it has now been shown to be correct and the same people wont laugh now if the same subject was brought up again.

 

[Phoenall]

Yeah, the Palestinians are responsible for the European Jews migrating to Palestine. Sheesh Rocco, grow up.

They were violent rapists and thieves before the European Jews were invited to close settle Palestine. They were given 78% of Palestine and decided that was not good enough and wanted 100%. They sided with the Ottomans during WW1 and then the Germans in WW2 and as you know to the LOSERS go the pains and loses.

 

[Phoenall]

I'm just disappointed that you convert wannabes aren't willing to pick up a Koran and a Kalashnikov instead of just flailing your Pom Poms for your Islamic terrorist heroes.

I'm a Unitarian who is sick and tired of seeing our government supporting Israeli Terrorism on Arabs and getting it back in our very shores! Fight your-own wars slimy.

**** Israel, no one on planet earth supports her in world polls.

Ah. "Islamo-Unitarian"

Is that like Salafi islamism... without the glitz?

Really, sweetie. Don't be such a coward. Join your homies in Hamas and put your new found ideology into practice.

There are no Sicilian cowards like you slimy!

Then why did their tanks have one forward gear and 20 reverse ?

They preffered to let

Billo_Really, et al,

Well, isn't that just precious.

How convenient? You never take responsibility for the shit your society causes.

(COMMENT)

History is full of mistakes, from the apple that Eve ate, to the present day. To be sure, America is nothing like the prefect society of Palestinians. America has defended the weak, freed the oppressed, and made some of the biggest blunders that a Superpower can make. But we try to do good. Society is what it is. Rest assured that the society who's Grand Mufti was a Nazi collaborator, who's Commander of the Holy War Army was a member of the Special Commando Unit of the Waffen SS, who's Leader of the Arab Liberation Army was award the German Iron Cross, that orchestrated the Munich Massacre, or hijacked EgyptAir Flight 648, killing 60 people, has the kind of society that everyone yearns to immolate. They want to be just like those brave men that threw a wheelchair bound passenger overboard from the MS Achille Lauro. They want a society that strives for peace, even if they fail.

The US is blamed for every ill in the world... Don't worry about us taking the blame, we are use to it and have broad shoulder. We are not perfect.

In contrast, the Palestinian are the perpetual victim, always whining; but never making the effort to secure peace.

Many of the problems that the Palestinians experience today, the Palestinians brought upon themselves.

Most Respectfully,
R

This is the worst post ever by you...You never take the responsibility of a thief stealing other people's homes for your distorted altruisms...

Do you mean like the Palestinians who stole Jewish homes and property in the west bank and gaza and now complain that the Jews have taken it all back in the west bank ?

 

[Phoenall]

pbel, et al,

I'm not sure what you are talking about.

This is the worst post ever by you...You never take the responsibility of a thief stealing other people's homes for your distorted altruisms...

(COMMENT)

I'm quite sure the US did not "stealing other people's homes ." And I'm quite sure that any homes the Israeli's destroyed were done in the best interest of security. And I am equally as sure that the Israelis took responsibility for each such action and provided an explanation.

Most Respectfully,
R

Your answers are so delusional that I'd be crazy to answer them.

So here goes: They (Israel) didn't just steal homes with US help, they stole the Palestinian's dignity, their culture and now their existence...

You can't go around with military swagger and think that any high morality would applaud you...

Infamia...

A pity then that the palestinans did not exist before 1988, and they never had any dignity, culture or existence before now. They were scum before WW1 and they are still scum now, which is why no Islamic state will take them in.

 

[Phoenall]

Billo_Really, et al,

Well, isn't that just precious.

How convenient? You never take responsibility for the shit your society causes.

(COMMENT)

History is full of mistakes, from the apple that Eve ate, to the present day. To be sure, America is nothing like the prefect society of Palestinians. America has defended the weak, freed the oppressed, and made some of the biggest blunders that a Superpower can make. But we try to do good. Society is what it is. Rest assured that the society who's Grand Mufti was a Nazi collaborator, who's Commander of the Holy War Army was a member of the Special Commando Unit of the Waffen SS, who's Leader of the Arab Liberation Army was award the German Iron Cross, that orchestrated the Munich Massacre, or hijacked EgyptAir Flight 648, killing 60 people, has the kind of society that everyone yearns to immolate. They want to be just like those brave men that threw a wheelchair bound passenger overboard from the MS Achille Lauro. They want a society that strives for peace, even if they fail.

The US is blamed for every ill in the world... Don't worry about us taking the blame, we are use to it and have broad shoulder. We are not perfect.

In contrast, the Palestinian are the perpetual victim, always whining; but never making the effort to secure peace.

Many of the problems that the Palestinians experience today, the Palestinians brought upon themselves.

Most Respectfully,
R

What you and those psycho, white trailer trash settlers are doing at that mosque (and in East Jerusalem), is causing all the latest violence. Prohibiting Palestinian's from entering the facility, while letting those pieces of shit settler insurgents go there, is creating a lot of anger.

In addition to that, those white trash settlers are taking over more and more Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem. I wish one of you fuckers would come up to my door and try to take my home. It would be your last ******* act on planet earth! You people are fucked!

Do you mean exercising their rights under agreement with Jordan to pray on that site certain days of the year. Then having to fight for their lives against islamonazi armed terrorists that stole the land in 1949.

They could always just bomb the place and then the islamonazi's wont have any reason to go there anymore

You mean reclaiming Jewish homes stolen in 1949 don't you ?

Why do you have a death wish as it could be arranged for you to lose your home legally and you could do nothing about it

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

I didn't say anything about the Palestinians being responsible the immigration.

Yeah, the Palestinians are responsible for the European Jews migrating to Palestine. Sheesh Rocco, grow up.

(COMMENT)

The Allied Powers encouraged the immigration. It was within their authority. It was the Allied Powers that agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect that was originally in the Balfour Declaration.

It was the Allied Powers that adopted the concept of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.

It was the Allied Powers that both directed and encouraged the facilitation Jewish immigration.

If you want to point the finger and assign responsibility for the immigration effort of the Jewish into the territory under the administration of the Mandate, then let's get it right. Accepting the "responsibility" as they did, the Allied Powers acted in what they considered an appropriate manner.

You should not accuse them of not accepting responsibility when they clearly did and put it writing. It is you that needs to refine your understanding; not me.

Most Respectfully,
R

I didn't say anything about the Palestinians being responsible the immigration.​

Indeed, and that is the problem. The only problem.

Not that any of that crap matters. The Mandate was a monumental flop. Britain threw up their hands and left leaving nothing behind but a never ending war. It was one of the most stupid plans of the 20th century.

I can't understand how you can support stupid.

Because you say so, isn't that right. They never held sovereignty over that 22% of Palestine and were given 78% of Palestine to move to. They were offered a compensation package if they wanted to take up the offer, and they refused demanding instead that they be given all the land as commanded in the koran. They lost the rights to anything when they sided with the Ottomans against the British and lost the war. That was the law of that time and so it still applies now.

The British could no longer afford to police Palestine after WW2 bankrupt the country and the arab muslims were aware they were pushed so started rioting and fighting. Once the UN took over from the LoN Britain gave notice of their intention to pull out and hand control to the UN. The UN tried the western approach to solving such crisis and ran into a brick wall we now call muslim mentality. They should have just sent in troops to take over and oust the arab muslims that were trouble causing and told the other mandate nations to take them in or suffer the consequences.

Supporting the genocide of the Jews is not just stupid but criminal as well, so what does your POV say about you now ?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- you've made your feelings known on that position often enough.

Indeed, and that is the problem. The only problem.

Not that any of that crap matters. The Mandate was a monumental flop. Britain threw up their hands and left leaving nothing behind but a never ending war. It was one of the most stupid plans of the 20th century.

I can't understand how you can support stupid.

(COMMENT)

I probably would not support the manner in which it was executed now using 21st Century hindsight; but that doesn't mean that the decision was bad. Given all the money that has been thrown in by UNRWA, donor nations, the cost of the various wars, we could have just bought the entirety of the territory under dispute.

But many of the decisions that have been made are irrevocable. And given the number of international and regional assaults by the jihadist, insurgents, agents provocateur, irregular asymmetric forces and terrorists the Hostile Arab Palestinians any compensation they think they are owed has long been exhausted by their criminal history and established pattern of violence.

The British (as you say) "threw up their hands and left" simply because the Arabs would not accept any solution but their own. And the Arab solution was then, and is now, wholly unreasonable.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

montelatici, et al,

I didn't say anything about the Palestinians being responsible the immigration.

Yeah, the Palestinians are responsible for the European Jews migrating to Palestine. Sheesh Rocco, grow up.

(COMMENT)

The Allied Powers encouraged the immigration. It was within their authority. It was the Allied Powers that agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect that was originally in the Balfour Declaration.

It was the Allied Powers that adopted the concept of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.

It was the Allied Powers that both directed and encouraged the facilitation Jewish immigration.

If you want to point the finger and assign responsibility for the immigration effort of the Jewish into the territory under the administration of the Mandate, then let's get it right. Accepting the "responsibility" as they did, the Allied Powers acted in what they considered an appropriate manner.

You should not accuse them of not accepting responsibility when they clearly did and put it writing. It is you that needs to refine your understanding; not me.

Most Respectfully,
R

I didn't say anything about the Palestinians being responsible the immigration.​

Indeed, and that is the problem. The only problem.

Not that any of that crap matters. The Mandate was a monumental flop. Britain threw up their hands and left leaving nothing behind but a never ending war. It was one of the most stupid plans of the 20th century.

I can't understand how you can support stupid.

Because you say so, isn't that right. They never held sovereignty over that 22% of Palestine and were given 78% of Palestine to move to. They were offered a compensation package if they wanted to take up the offer, and they refused demanding instead that they be given all the land as commanded in the koran. They lost the rights to anything when they sided with the Ottomans against the British and lost the war. That was the law of that time and so it still applies now.

The British could no longer afford to police Palestine after WW2 bankrupt the country and the arab muslims were aware they were pushed so started rioting and fighting. Once the UN took over from the LoN Britain gave notice of their intention to pull out and hand control to the UN. The UN tried the western approach to solving such crisis and ran into a brick wall we now call muslim mentality. They should have just sent in troops to take over and oust the arab muslims that were trouble causing and told the other mandate nations to take them in or suffer the consequences.

Supporting the genocide of the Jews is not just stupid but criminal as well, so what does your POV say about you now ?

You are soooooooooooo full of shit. Everyone I have posted supports the equal rights of the Jews.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- you've made your feelings known on that position often enough.

Indeed, and that is the problem. The only problem.

Not that any of that crap matters. The Mandate was a monumental flop. Britain threw up their hands and left leaving nothing behind but a never ending war. It was one of the most stupid plans of the 20th century.

I can't understand how you can support stupid.

(COMMENT)

I probably would not support the manner in which it was executed now using 21st Century hindsight; but that doesn't mean that the decision was bad. Given all the money that has been thrown in by UNRWA, donor nations, the cost of the various wars, we could have just bought the entirety of the territory under dispute.

But many of the decisions that have been made are irrevocable. And given the number of international and regional assaults by the jihadist, insurgents, agents provocateur, irregular asymmetric forces and terrorists the Hostile Arab Palestinians any compensation they think they are owed has long been exhausted by their criminal history and established pattern of violence.

The British (as you say) "threw up their hands and left" simply because the Arabs would not accept any solution but their own. And the Arab solution was then, and is now, wholly unreasonable.

Most Respectfully,
R

The British (as you say) "threw up their hands and left" simply because the Arabs would not accept any solution but their own.​

As they had every right to do.

Score one point against foreign colonialism.

 

[pbel]

pbel, et al,

I'm not sure what you are talking about.

This is the worst post ever by you...You never take the responsibility of a thief stealing other people's homes for your distorted altruisms...

(COMMENT)

I'm quite sure the US did not "stealing other people's homes ." And I'm quite sure that any homes the Israeli's destroyed were done in the best interest of security. And I am equally as sure that the Israelis took responsibility for each such action and provided an explanation.

Most Respectfully,
R

Your answers are so delusional that I'd be crazy to answer them.

So here goes: They (Israel) didn't just steal homes with US help, they stole the Palestinian's dignity, their culture and now their existence...

You can't go around with military swagger and think that any high morality would applaud you...

Infamia...

A pity then that the palestinans did not exist before 1988, and they never had any dignity, culture or existence before now. They were scum before WW1 and they are still scum now, which is why no Islamic state will take them in.

The usual ratings of a demented ZioNazi who claims that the Palestinians didn't exist until 1988 or have any human qualities...You are a disgusting piece of human trash.

 

[montelatici]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- you've made your feelings known on that position often enough.

Indeed, and that is the problem. The only problem.

Not that any of that crap matters. The Mandate was a monumental flop. Britain threw up their hands and left leaving nothing behind but a never ending war. It was one of the most stupid plans of the 20th century.

I can't understand how you can support stupid.

(COMMENT)

I probably would not support the manner in which it was executed now using 21st Century hindsight; but that doesn't mean that the decision was bad. Given all the money that has been thrown in by UNRWA, donor nations, the cost of the various wars, we could have just bought the entirety of the territory under dispute.

But many of the decisions that have been made are irrevocable. And given the number of international and regional assaults by the jihadist, insurgents, agents provocateur, irregular asymmetric forces and terrorists the Hostile Arab Palestinians any compensation they think they are owed has long been exhausted by their criminal history and established pattern of violence.

The British (as you say) "threw up their hands and left" simply because the Arabs would not accept any solution but their own. And the Arab solution was then, and is now, wholly unreasonable.

Most Respectfully,
R

How was the Christian and Muslim Palestinian solution unreasonable? All they asked for was to stop the Jewish invasion from Europe and independence.

 

[Hollie]

montelatici, et al,

I didn't say anything about the Palestinians being responsible the immigration.

Yeah, the Palestinians are responsible for the European Jews migrating to Palestine. Sheesh Rocco, grow up.

(COMMENT)

The Allied Powers encouraged the immigration. It was within their authority. It was the Allied Powers that agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect that was originally in the Balfour Declaration.

It was the Allied Powers that adopted the concept of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.

It was the Allied Powers that both directed and encouraged the facilitation Jewish immigration.

If you want to point the finger and assign responsibility for the immigration effort of the Jewish into the territory under the administration of the Mandate, then let's get it right. Accepting the "responsibility" as they did, the Allied Powers acted in what they considered an appropriate manner.

You should not accuse them of not accepting responsibility when they clearly did and put it writing. It is you that needs to refine your understanding; not me.

Most Respectfully,
R

I didn't say anything about the Palestinians being responsible the immigration.​

Indeed, and that is the problem. The only problem.

Not that any of that crap matters. The Mandate was a monumental flop. Britain threw up their hands and left leaving nothing behind but a never ending war. It was one of the most stupid plans of the 20th century.

I can't understand how you can support stupid.

Because you say so, isn't that right. They never held sovereignty over that 22% of Palestine and were given 78% of Palestine to move to. They were offered a compensation package if they wanted to take up the offer, and they refused demanding instead that they be given all the land as commanded in the koran. They lost the rights to anything when they sided with the Ottomans against the British and lost the war. That was the law of that time and so it still applies now.

The British could no longer afford to police Palestine after WW2 bankrupt the country and the arab muslims were aware they were pushed so started rioting and fighting. Once the UN took over from the LoN Britain gave notice of their intention to pull out and hand control to the UN. The UN tried the western approach to solving such crisis and ran into a brick wall we now call muslim mentality. They should have just sent in troops to take over and oust the arab muslims that were trouble causing and told the other mandate nations to take them in or suffer the consequences.

Supporting the genocide of the Jews is not just stupid but criminal as well, so what does your POV say about you now ?

You are soooooooooooo full of shit. Everyone I have posted supports the equal rights of the Jews.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- you've made your feelings known on that position often enough.

Indeed, and that is the problem. The only problem.

Not that any of that crap matters. The Mandate was a monumental flop. Britain threw up their hands and left leaving nothing behind but a never ending war. It was one of the most stupid plans of the 20th century.

I can't understand how you can support stupid.

(COMMENT)

I probably would not support the manner in which it was executed now using 21st Century hindsight; but that doesn't mean that the decision was bad. Given all the money that has been thrown in by UNRWA, donor nations, the cost of the various wars, we could have just bought the entirety of the territory under dispute.

But many of the decisions that have been made are irrevocable. And given the number of international and regional assaults by the jihadist, insurgents, agents provocateur, irregular asymmetric forces and terrorists the Hostile Arab Palestinians any compensation they think they are owed has long been exhausted by their criminal history and established pattern of violence.

The British (as you say) "threw up their hands and left" simply because the Arabs would not accept any solution but their own. And the Arab solution was then, and is now, wholly unreasonable.

Most Respectfully,
R

The British (as you say) "threw up their hands and left" simply because the Arabs would not accept any solution but their own.​

As they had every right to do.

Score one point against foreign colonialism.

There is no practical concept of equal rights for Jews, or any other non-islamist entity in lands controlled by islamics.

The Islamist Entity™ has no history of equal rights for the hated kuffar and in fact, the history of islamism is one of subjugation and privation toward the kuffar.

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

I didn't say anything about the Palestinians being responsible the immigration.

Yeah, the Palestinians are responsible for the European Jews migrating to Palestine. Sheesh Rocco, grow up.

(COMMENT)

The Allied Powers encouraged the immigration. It was within their authority. It was the Allied Powers that agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect that was originally in the Balfour Declaration.

It was the Allied Powers that adopted the concept of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.

It was the Allied Powers that both directed and encouraged the facilitation Jewish immigration.

If you want to point the finger and assign responsibility for the immigration effort of the Jewish into the territory under the administration of the Mandate, then let's get it right. Accepting the "responsibility" as they did, the Allied Powers acted in what they considered an appropriate manner.

You should not accuse them of not accepting responsibility when they clearly did and put it writing. It is you that needs to refine your understanding; not me.

Most Respectfully,
R

I didn't say anything about the Palestinians being responsible the immigration.​

Indeed, and that is the problem. The only problem.

Not that any of that crap matters. The Mandate was a monumental flop. Britain threw up their hands and left leaving nothing behind but a never ending war. It was one of the most stupid plans of the 20th century.

I can't understand how you can support stupid.

Because you say so, isn't that right. They never held sovereignty over that 22% of Palestine and were given 78% of Palestine to move to. They were offered a compensation package if they wanted to take up the offer, and they refused demanding instead that they be given all the land as commanded in the koran. They lost the rights to anything when they sided with the Ottomans against the British and lost the war. That was the law of that time and so it still applies now.

The British could no longer afford to police Palestine after WW2 bankrupt the country and the arab muslims were aware they were pushed so started rioting and fighting. Once the UN took over from the LoN Britain gave notice of their intention to pull out and hand control to the UN. The UN tried the western approach to solving such crisis and ran into a brick wall we now call muslim mentality. They should have just sent in troops to take over and oust the arab muslims that were trouble causing and told the other mandate nations to take them in or suffer the consequences.

Supporting the genocide of the Jews is not just stupid but criminal as well, so what does your POV say about you now ?

You are soooooooooooo full of shit. Everyone I have posted supports the equal rights of the Jews.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- you've made your feelings known on that position often enough.

Indeed, and that is the problem. The only problem.

Not that any of that crap matters. The Mandate was a monumental flop. Britain threw up their hands and left leaving nothing behind but a never ending war. It was one of the most stupid plans of the 20th century.

I can't understand how you can support stupid.

(COMMENT)

I probably would not support the manner in which it was executed now using 21st Century hindsight; but that doesn't mean that the decision was bad. Given all the money that has been thrown in by UNRWA, donor nations, the cost of the various wars, we could have just bought the entirety of the territory under dispute.

But many of the decisions that have been made are irrevocable. And given the number of international and regional assaults by the jihadist, insurgents, agents provocateur, irregular asymmetric forces and terrorists the Hostile Arab Palestinians any compensation they think they are owed has long been exhausted by their criminal history and established pattern of violence.

The British (as you say) "threw up their hands and left" simply because the Arabs would not accept any solution but their own. And the Arab solution was then, and is now, wholly unreasonable.

Most Respectfully,
R

The British (as you say) "threw up their hands and left" simply because the Arabs would not accept any solution but their own.​

As they had every right to do.

Score one point against foreign colonialism.

Not according to the Palestinian governments who have decreed that they will fight until it is all Palestine or they die out in the process.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- you've made your feelings known on that position often enough.

Indeed, and that is the problem. The only problem.

Not that any of that crap matters. The Mandate was a monumental flop. Britain threw up their hands and left leaving nothing behind but a never ending war. It was one of the most stupid plans of the 20th century.

I can't understand how you can support stupid.

(COMMENT)

I probably would not support the manner in which it was executed now using 21st Century hindsight; but that doesn't mean that the decision was bad. Given all the money that has been thrown in by UNRWA, donor nations, the cost of the various wars, we could have just bought the entirety of the territory under dispute.

But many of the decisions that have been made are irrevocable. And given the number of international and regional assaults by the jihadist, insurgents, agents provocateur, irregular asymmetric forces and terrorists the Hostile Arab Palestinians any compensation they think they are owed has long been exhausted by their criminal history and established pattern of violence.

The British (as you say) "threw up their hands and left" simply because the Arabs would not accept any solution but their own. And the Arab solution was then, and is now, wholly unreasonable.

Most Respectfully,
R

How was the Christian and Muslim Palestinian solution unreasonable? All they asked for was to stop the Jewish invasion from Europe and independence.

Because it was a wholly arab muslim ruled and owned nation with the Jews and Christians as their slaves. No matter what you say that is always on the cards and is part of the unchanging islamonazi legal code.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

One of the issues that make negotiations with the Palestinians is that they have no constant position and they keep moving the goal post.

How was the Christian and Muslim Palestinian solution unreasonable? All they asked for was to stop the Jewish invasion from Europe and independence.

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Example: Palestinians will demand their return to the Arab state postulated by the partition plan.

This was absolutely turned down by the Arabs in 1948:

UNITED NATIONS PALESTINE COMMISSION (UNPC) FIRST MONTHLY PROGRESS REPORT
TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL 29 JAN 48

EXCERPT:

The text of this resolution was communicated by the Secretary-General on 9 January to the Government of the United Kingdom, as the Mandatory Power, to the Arab Higher Committee, and to the Jewish Agency for Palestine. The invitation extended by the resolution was promptly accepted by the Government of the United Kingdom and by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, both of which designated representatives to assist the commission. The representative designated by the Government of the United Kingdom was Sir Alexander Cadogan. The representative designated by the Jewish Agency for Palestine was Mr. Moshe Shertok. As regards the Arab Higher Committee, the following telegraphic response was received by the Secretary-General on 19 January:

“ARAB HIGHER COMMITTEE IS DETERMINED PERSIST IN REJECTION PARTITION AND IN REFUSAL RECOGNIZE UNO RESOLUTION THIS RESPECT AND ANYTHING DERIVING THEREFROM. FOR THESE REASONS IT IS UNABLE ACCEPT INVITATION”
​

No further communication has been addressed to or received from the Arab Higher Committee by the Commission. The Commission will, at the appropriate time, set forth in a separate document its views with regard to the implementations of this refusal by the Arab Higher Committee.
​

Since early January 1948, the Arab Higher Committee has made political positions that are in practice, still in place today. And since that time, until the present day, Powerful and Dangerous Arab-Palestinian interests, both inside and outside the West Bank and Gaza Strip, have worked hard to defy the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement and by coersion that which they could not achieve more than half a century ago.

The Arab Higher Committee Delegation wishes to reaffirm here that the Arabs of Palestine cannot recognize the Balfour Declaration, the Mandate of Palestine or any situation arising or derived therefrom.

Imposing international alien immigrants on their country by force is nothing but an act of aggression and invasion, whether made by Jews themselves, through Great Britain, or by the United Nations.

The creation of any Jewish state in an Arab territory is more than invasion or aggression, it is something with no precedent in history. It is en act of wiping out the existence of an Arab country,

Arabs of Palestine consider that any attempt by the Jews or any power group of powers to establish a Jewish state in Arab territory is an act of aggression.
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These are serious differences. They are Article 2(4) threats issued by the Hostile Arab Palestinians and have been backed up by the use of force on nearly a continuous basis since 1948.

Most Respectfully,

R​

 

[Penelope]

About 500 Arab-Israelis demonstrated in 6 locations in the north of Israel, following the clashes (and terror attacks) in Jerusalem and against IDF operations in Judea and Smaria.
In Nazareth a stone was thrown on a bus, wheels set on fire and the entrance blocked.
Among other location are Sfaram, Baeina, Baka el-Garbiyah, Kana and Taiybe.

Demonstrators in Haifa-
"We'll sacrifice our lives for the Jihadists and Palestine"

The demonstrators raised the palestinian flag, similar to the face-covered demonstrators in East-Jerusalem during the weekend who clashed with the police shouting-
"We want a third Intifada to free Al-Aqsa"

LINK TO VIDEO

You said Arabs in Israel were treated well?

People who are treated well, don't riot.

Failed logic- it's like saying if criminals murder and steal then it means the state treats them badly. No they're treated equaly and they commit crimes because they chose so, then call for MORE MURDERS of fellow citizens-just proves their criminal moivation even more.


Yes they are treated well just like any other Israeli, better than in any other Arab country where they're not even allowed citizenship or basic rights.
But I see them raising the fake balestinian flag from within Israel- we don't see them changing/denouncing their Zionist citizenship, paying taxes and receiving all the services from that govt., the govt. which they oppose he existence of- WHY THEY CHOOSE TO KEEp THE ISRAELI CIIZENSHIp?

Israel’s Arab political parties have united
Arab Israeli wins Maccabiah gold
First female Arab soldier joins elite unit 669
Israeli Arab Bnei Sakhnin Wins State Cup Final

All pics from the elders of ziyon.com

Ok heres one, who is listed as an Arab Muslim, is really an Arab Israel and a physician, he is a Zionist now, and doesn't want to loose his perks. I won't waste my energy going throught the rest of the BS pictures here.

A respected doctor - and a suspicious Arab

Had to do another, the token Arab judge, who is a Christian Maronite.


As the television cameras panned, they showed Salim Joubran, the only Arab among the court’s 15 justices, standing but not singing. It did not take long for a controversy to ensue.

“He spat in the face of the state of Israel,” asserted David Rotem, a member of Parliament with the nationalist Yisrael Beiteinu Party, speaking of Justice Joubran’s actions. Those who object to the Zionist hymn, he said, “can find a state with a more appropriate anthem and move there.”

Reached by telephone, Mr. Rotem added that Justice Joubran “should do the decent thing and step down.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/world/middleeast/anger-and-compassion-for-justice-who-stays-silent-during-zionist-hymn.html?_r=0

Salim Joubran, a Christian Maronite and the sole Arab Judge on the Supreme Court, is serving as the chairman of the Central Election Committee.

Israeli Arab Supreme Court Judge to oversee Israeli elections

why not compare apples to apple, and oranges to oranges, instead of grapes to raisons.

 

[rylah]

About 500 Arab-Israelis demonstrated in 6 locations in the north of Israel, following the clashes (and terror attacks) in Jerusalem and against IDF operations in Judea and Smaria.
In Nazareth a stone was thrown on a bus, wheels set on fire and the entrance blocked.
Among other location are Sfaram, Baeina, Baka el-Garbiyah, Kana and Taiybe.

Demonstrators in Haifa-
"We'll sacrifice our lives for the Jihadists and Palestine"

The demonstrators raised the palestinian flag, similar to the face-covered demonstrators in East-Jerusalem during the weekend who clashed with the police shouting-
"We want a third Intifada to free Al-Aqsa"

LINK TO VIDEO

You said Arabs in Israel were treated well?

People who are treated well, don't riot.

Failed logic- it's like saying if criminals murder and steal then it means the state treats them badly. No they're treated equaly and they commit crimes because they chose so, then call for MORE MURDERS of fellow citizens-just proves their criminal moivation even more.


Yes they are treated well just like any other Israeli, better than in any other Arab country where they're not even allowed citizenship or basic rights.
But I see them raising the fake balestinian flag from within Israel- we don't see them changing/denouncing their Zionist citizenship, paying taxes and receiving all the services from that govt., the govt. which they oppose he existence of- WHY THEY CHOOSE TO KEEp THE ISRAELI CIIZENSHIp?

Israel’s Arab political parties have united
Arab Israeli wins Maccabiah gold
First female Arab soldier joins elite unit 669
Israeli Arab Bnei Sakhnin Wins State Cup Final

All pics from the elders of ziyon.com

Ok heres one, who is listed as an Arab Muslim, is really an Arab Israel and a physician, he is a Zionist now, and doesn't want to loose his perks. I won't waste my energy going throught the rest of the BS pictures here.

A respected doctor - and a suspicious Arab

Had to do another, the token Arab judge, who is a Christian Maronite.


As the television cameras panned, they showed Salim Joubran, the only Arab among the court’s 15 justices, standing but not singing. It did not take long for a controversy to ensue.

“He spat in the face of the state of Israel,” asserted David Rotem, a member of Parliament with the nationalist Yisrael Beiteinu Party, speaking of Justice Joubran’s actions. Those who object to the Zionist hymn, he said, “can find a state with a more appropriate anthem and move there.”

Reached by telephone, Mr. Rotem added that Justice Joubran “should do the decent thing and step down.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/world/middleeast/anger-and-compassion-for-justice-who-stays-silent-during-zionist-hymn.html?_r=0

Salim Joubran, a Christian Maronite and the sole Arab Judge on the Supreme Court, is serving as the chairman of the Central Election Committee.

Israeli Arab Supreme Court Judge to oversee Israeli elections

why not compare apples to apple, and oranges to oranges, instead of grapes to raisons.

All that you've posted shows even more that Israeli-Arabs are free to reach high ranks and express their view openly and without any persecuting.

An Arab in a high rank can choose to be anti-Zionist but it's his choice.
And their presence and attitude only proves how tolerant and civilized Israel is, unlike the treatment of balestinian and other political opposition in Arab-Muslim countries where they're executed in the central streets for all to see.

As always by trying so hard to justify Jihad, you shoot yourself in the foot. please post more.