Rigby5
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RE: Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not (a repeat thread)
SUBTOPIC: Poor Perspective on Israel
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it was in about the FY 2010 cycle that the US made a $10B loan to Israel. Since that time, Israel has not missed a payment or defaulted on any loan agreement with the US or the World Bank.
The International Rating
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Israel's rating is much, much better than:
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The pro-Arab Palestinian factions and the Anti-Israel machine tends to overlook the Developmentally, Israel is well above any other regional nation, and has a Trading Economics (TE) credit rating
Trading Economics provides data for 20 million economic indicators from 196 countries including actual values, consensus figures, forecasts, historical time series and news. United States Rating - was last updated on Friday, November 26, 2021.
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Well certainly, no one is going to minimize the difficulty in engaging and interception of high-speed indirect fire. Most air defense systems and air defense artillery detect and fire after a firing solution is established. It requires the intercepting weapon to develop a very high acceleration to achieve the speed necessary to strike the inbound weapon at effective stand-off distances. This scenario makes cource corrections f the intercept weapon difficult. The specific Artificial Intelligence (AI) has not yet been developed that will allow an airborne platform to detect and fire downward on inbound targets for safe intercept distances. This would require the interception device to be launched immediately on detection of the inbound target, which requires the interception device to be tracking and adjusting both course and speed for success. No one has that technology yet, but it is coming.
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I will not even bother to debate this "illegitimate invader" comment. But however you want to address the Israelis, Give me the citation for the specific law and the specific event involded. Then we can have a basis for a discussion.
◈ What Crime are the Arab Palestinians violating and can be prosecuted for?◈ What violation is committed when someone spreads suc deceptive commentary which promotes acts of war?
There is a difference between than Arab Palestinian's "Right to Self-Defense" and the Arab Palestinian who commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power (the Israelis), an Arab Palestinian who commit an offense which is solely perform espionage, or serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power (Israel), or commit offences which have caused the death of people - no matter the race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status (any one at all). Arab Palestinians, no matter what cause they claim are subject to the prosecution under Customary and International Humanitarian Law (IHL). (See Article 68, Fourth Geneva Convention)
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I would often tell students, fact-checking is very important.
Like many words in English, "Jihad" can mean a number of things, depending on who is using it, how they use t (context), and the intent. You would be very hard-pressed to convince anyone who has listened to the Hostile Arab Palestinians or seen their actions that "jihad" is being used to convey anon-violent meaning.
Fatah: Murdering children is "legitimate human struggle" - when killer is Palestinian and victims are Israelis
Hamas TV glorifies jihad, urges 'Death to Israel!'
The PFLP says it is a "human right" for Palestinians to kill Jews
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Yeah, I heard this allegation before. I don't support you were part of the US-Taliban negotiating team back in 2001.
Most Respectfully,
R
The financial rating for Israel has nothing to do with US foreign air and defense loans.
The link I provided claimed the money we give Israel is being laundered, so it is just being labeled as loans in order to hide it, even though it has NEVER been paid back and not expected to be paid back. A bad bank rating only happens when the person giving the loan reports the lack of payment.
As for international law, it is totally illegal for Israel to be militarily occupying any of the Palestine side of the UN division of 1948.
The 1948, 1967, or any war, did not allow for Israel to occupy Jerusalem, the East Bank, or anything beyond the 1948 UN division.
So it is Israel that then is the illegal, invading, aggressor, and then has no rights at all.
The rights of Palestine were established by the Treaty of San Remo and Treaty of Sevres, which had Palestinian representative, but no Israeli representatives because Israel or any Jewish entity was never supposed to exist.
The point of Iron Shield is that the targets are ballistic, so have the simplest, slowest, and most predictable, 45 degree, parabolic trajectory. And even then, Iron Dome can only hit incoming that is pretty much directly aimed at the interceptors. Anything to the side gets through, and anything beyond the saturation threshold gets through. So it is useless for generalized situations.
But with "Jihad", I would agree there are multiple meanings and the rhetoric is pretty inflammatory, so hard to tell what any one user means.