Israel strikes Hamas and Hezbollah targets

[BluesLegend]

There's no need for a ceasefire, Hamas can unconditionally surrender and be arrested for war crimes.

What Israel should say every time some dipshit demands a ceasefire.

 

[DudleySmith]

The Wars in Europe date back to Romans and have been like clockwork

And just as often in Asia, Africa, and South America , too.

 

[georgephillip]

Simple.

Because the United Nations Resolution 181 divided the land known as Palestine into a state for Jews in Palestine and a state for Arabs in Palestine. The Jews accepted their partial return of their homeland but the Arabs in Palestine did not. The international community supported the formation of Israel, and it is a perfectly legitimate and recognized nation among nations, regardless of the misguided opinions of ninth century terrorists.

UN Resolution 181 violated the UN Charter when it didn't call for free elections in Palestine to determine what boundaries the Jewish homeland would entrail. Instead the UN gave a minority of the residents of Palestine 55% of the land while a majority of Muslims and Christians received about 45%.

The current extent of ethnic cleansing and its consequences in Palestine stems from Israel's refusal to implement UNSC Resolution 242 in 1967:

United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 - Wikipedia

"United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 (S/RES/242) was adopted unanimously by the UN Security Council on November 22, 1967, in the aftermath of the Six-Day War.

"It was adopted under Chapter VI of the UN Charter.[1] The resolution was sponsored by British ambassador Lord Caradon and was one of five drafts under consideration.[2]

"The preamble refers to the 'inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in the Middle East in which every State in the area can live in security'.[3]

"Operative Paragraph One 'Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

"(i) Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;"

 

[DudleySmith]

What Israel should say every time some dipshit demands a ceasefire.

That's the usual pattern, terrorists attack Israel, the Europeans and Arabs scream for 'restraint' from Israel, or else. meanwhile no one on the left ever condemns the terrorist vermin, as we can see here on this and every other board.

 

[DudleySmith]

UN Resolution 181 violated the UN Charter when it didn't call for free elections in Palestine to determine what boundaries the Jewish homeland would entrail. Instead the UN gave a minority of the residents of Palestine 55% of the land while a majority of Muslims and Christians received about 45%.

The current extent of ethnic cleansing and its consequences in Palestine stems from Israel's refusal to implement UNSC Resolution 242 in 1967:

United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 - Wikipedia

"United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 (S/RES/242) was adopted unanimously by the UN Security Council on November 22, 1967, in the aftermath of the Six-Day War.

"It was adopted under Chapter VI of the UN Charter.[1] The resolution was sponsored by British ambassador Lord Caradon and was one of five drafts under consideration.[2]

"The preamble refers to the 'inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in the Middle East in which every State in the area can live in security'.[3]

"Operative Paragraph One 'Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

"(i) Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;"

lol the UN is a collection of thugs, scum, and assorted sociopaths. No wonder you love them and their goofy ridiculous 'Resolutions'.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

There's no need for a ceasefire, Hamas can unconditionally surrender and be arrested for war crimes.

"Surrender unconditionally and return all hostages"

 

[DudleySmith]

Cookies too. I was there----Atlantic Avenue, Brooklyn---
when arabs destroyed the World Trade Center----the men
were jumping around and the sluts in Abayas were handing
out "mamoul" ---an arab cookie ---molded and stuffed with
something like date jam----baked by the DAMASCUS
BAKERY-----a fave spot for jews---the bread (pita) is certified
kosher----the bakery is owned by christians "arab bakery"
Sadly the mamoul did not hold out -----the Damascus bakery
ran out but the arabs continued celebrating ----the women
ULULATED -------whilst people jumped out of the buildings
and smashed to the ground-----it was nauseating

My Aunt was in a convenience store paying for gas during that, and the three Arab clerks were all laughing at the news coverage, quite happy about it all.

Deport the scum. these are the kinds of scum Democrats love to import.

 

[BluesLegend]

That's the usual pattern, terrorists attack Israel, the Europeans and Arabs scream for 'restraint' from Israel, or else. meanwhile no one on the left ever condemns the terrorist vermin, as we can see here on this and every other board.

When Libya threatened Europe's oil supply they went in with armies and wiped them out. The hypocrisy is staggering.

 

[Seymour Flops]

UN Resolution 181 violated the UN Charter when it didn't call for free elections in Palestine to determine what boundaries the Jewish homeland would entrail. Instead the UN gave a minority of the residents of Palestine 55% of the land while a majority of Muslims and Christians received about 45%.

Show me the part of the UN Charter that the UN violated.

 

[DudleySmith]

George, the best way to understand the history of South Africa is to read the historical novel by James Michener. I challenge you or any other white hating assholes to read it.

WE can also compare South Africa's white colonialism with Shaka Zulu's conquests and rule. You can bet most Africans would choose ****** if they had a choice. Many of the black Africans there now were all migrant workers, not native to the region anyway; they came to work in the mines, on the farms, and in the factories. After that, you couldn't drive them out and go back home with nuclear weapons.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Many of the black Africans there now were all migrant workers, not native to the region anyway; they came to work in the mines, on the farms, and in the factories

America hasn't learned the lesson of South Africa. If we don't stop importing these people our fate will be the same

 

[DudleySmith]

When Libya threatened Europe's oil supply they went in with armies and wiped them out. The hypocrisy is staggering.

Since it was European investors and companies who created the oil industry there, I don't really blame them. These feckless desert bandits love to cut deals for development then welch on the deals and steal everything they can. The Europeans should have just wiped them out first, then ran it all themselves. Worked for the Ottomans for hundreds of years of dealing with Arabs. They really are a blight on the planet. Even Turks don't like them or trust them.

 

[georgephillip]

Funny you mention two places, otherwise where defeat had come to those places all due to their policies and stances taken to the extreme, and so you posted this as if to suggest that the attack that came from GAZA was somehow justified all because of ??

If this definition of "justified" satisfies you...
"having or shown to have a just, right, or reasonable basis
a justified punishment

"a justified reputation for toughness

"Such work calls for a combination of training and talent that few can lay justified claim to …"

Killing civilians is seldom just or right, but it can be a reasonable response the 75 years of Jewish supremacy in Palestine. It's possible Jews in Israel have reached an end similar to Germans in 1945 or Whites in South Africa decades later with a major exception:

Does your support for the Jewish state go this far?

 

[Hossfly]

WE can also compare South Africa's white colonialism with Shaka Zulu's conquests and rule. You can bet most Africans would choose ****** if they had a choice. Many of the black Africans there now were all migrant workers, not native to the region anyway; they came to work in the mines, on the farms, and in the factories. After that, you couldn't drive them out and go back home with nuclear weapons.

When the English and the Dutch established the way stations in S. Africa, nobody lived within 500 miles at the Cape. Hunters and wanderers discovered the settlements and then the people from far away moved in and got jobs. Eventually it was "We want our land back."

 

[Carl in Michigan]

When the English and the Dutch established the way stations in S. Africa, nobody lived within 500 miles at the Cape. Hunters and wanderers discovered the settlements and then the people from far away moved in and got jobs. Eventually it was "We want our land back."

It'll happen here soon enough. America is being colonized but most refuse to see it

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Trump started the whole mess when he had Jesus crucified. He also started the Civil War.

You bring up damn good points... LMAO

 

[georgephillip]

Show me the part of the UN Charter that the UN violated.

Possibly Article 1?

United Nations Charter (full text) | United Nations

1. "To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;"

Had the UN accorded the population of Palestine the principle of equal rights and self-determination of (all) people in 1948, a minority of Jews would not have acquired 55% of the land.

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia.

 

[Hossfly]

Possibly Article 1?

United Nations Charter (full text) | United Nations

1. "To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;"

Had the UN accorded the population of Palestine the principle of equal rights and self-determination of (all) people in 1948, a minority of Jews would not have acquired 55% of the land.

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia.

You have always talked about self-determination. Seems to me the "people" let the corrupt terrorist governments determine what they want for the people. They make those determinations from their villas in Dubai.

 

[georgephillip]

You have always talked about self-determination. Seems to me the "people" let the corrupt terrorist governments determine what they want for the people. They make those determinations from their villas in Dubai.

There are ample examples of terror on both sides over the last 75 years in Palestine. There are currently roughly equal numbers of Jews and non-Jews living in that territory; why not a free election open to all legal residents to determine a real unity government?

 

[JustAGuy1]

UN Resolution 181 violated the UN Charter when it didn't call for free elections in Palestine to determine what boundaries the Jewish homeland would entrail. Instead the UN gave a minority of the residents of Palestine 55% of the land while a majority of Muslims and Christians received about 45%.

The current extent of ethnic cleansing and its consequences in Palestine stems from Israel's refusal to implement UNSC Resolution 242 in 1967:

United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 - Wikipedia

"United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 (S/RES/242) was adopted unanimously by the UN Security Council on November 22, 1967, in the aftermath of the Six-Day War.

"It was adopted under Chapter VI of the UN Charter.[1] The resolution was sponsored by British ambassador Lord Caradon and was one of five drafts under consideration.[2]

"The preamble refers to the 'inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in the Middle East in which every State in the area can live in security'.[3]

"Operative Paragraph One 'Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

"(i) Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;"

Nobody cares what the UN says.