Israel Plans 1400 West Bank Settlement Homes

[docmauser1]

And as long as you shoot people fishing and farming, don't talk to me about who shoots who.

Fishing arms and explosives and farming landmines is a hazardous occupation, of course.

 

[Phoenall]

I don't recall you saying the same when they shot poor worker who was minding his own business in Nahal Oz.

Or that when they planted a bomb in a civilian bus two weeks ago.

They shoot and plant bombs, but it's all ok.

We built houses, it's a terrible crime.

Keep losing more sense, Billy-boy.

The houses are illegal.

Why is it illegal to build houses on land that you own, only a NAZI JEW HATER would write such a thing, are you saying yu are a NAZI JEW HATER

And as long as you shoot people fishing and farming, don't talk to me about who shoots who.

A very one sided and hypocritical view of things. While the muslims have it as part of their charter that the Jews do not have the right to self determination and self government then they will be vilified by all decent human beings.

 

[Billo_Really]

No, built on land won in a defensive war, so they are legal.

We've been through this before.

There is no one in the world that will back you up on that claim.

 

[Billo_Really]

Soon as you leave California for Europe so the Mexicans can have their country back we'll speak as equals. Until then, shut the fuck up.

No, I think I'll keep talking.

Happy?

 

[Billo_Really]

A very one sided and hypocritical view of things. While the muslims have it as part of their charter that the Jews do not have the right to self determination and self government then they will be vilified by all decent human beings.

My position is not hypocritical and your comment after that is not even reality.

 

[Lipush]

 

[Billo_Really]

The shooting is condemned only when Israel does it.

The rockets are ok, the bomb plantings are ok.

Housing is wrong.

Can you be more hypocrite than that?

I've condemned both sides; I've never supported the rocket attacks; they can plant all the bombs they want to on their own fucking property, that's not any of Israel's business what others can do on their own property.

Yes, building housing on land that isn't yours, is wrong.

Nothing I've said is hypocritical. Why do you keep trying to spin this into something more comfortable for you to handle? Why can't you step up like a responsible adult and take ownership for the shit things Israel does?

 

[Phoenall]

No, built on land won in a defensive war, so they are legal.

We've been through this before.

There is no one in the world that will back you up on that claim.

But history and International Law will back up the fact that the settlements are being built on Jewish owned land.

See definitive map of Jewish owned land paid for and with title deeds

 

[Phoenall]

A very one sided and hypocritical view of things. While the muslims have it as part of their charter that the Jews do not have the right to self determination and self government then they will be vilified by all decent human beings.

My position is not hypocritical and your comment after that is not even reality.

Read the arab league charter, the PLO charter and the Khartoum resolution. All 3 say that Israel does not have the right to exist and will be destroyed by the arab league and Palestine returned to muslim ownership.

So as I said a very one sided hypocritical view of the M.E problems, it is not all Israel's fault as most of the problems stem from Islamic religious teachings

 

[Phoenall]

The shooting is condemned only when Israel does it.

The rockets are ok, the bomb plantings are ok.

Housing is wrong.

Can you be more hypocrite than that?

I've condemned both sides; I've never supported the rocket attacks; they can plant all the bombs they want to on their own fucking property, that's not any of Israel's business what others can do on their own property.

Yes, building housing on land that isn't yours, is wrong.

Nothing I've said is hypocritical. Why do you keep trying to spin this into something more comfortable for you to handle? Why can't you step up like a responsible adult and take ownership for the shit things Israel does?

But it is when you claim that the Palestinian animals can plant bombs destined to maim and murder children all they want but Israel cant defend against these bombs. THAT IS RANK HYPOCRISY.

Who says the land is not Jewish, and can the Palestinians provide deeds and land title from before 1947 like the Jews can. I have already given you a map of Jewish owned land prior to 1947, now how about you produce one that shows Palestinian owned land from the same period. But here is something for you to digest and try and prove false

A study of Palestine under Turkish rule reveals that already at
the beginning of the 18th century, long before Jewish land purchases
and large-scale Jewish immigration started, the position of the
Palestinian fellah (peasant) had begun to deteriorate. The heavy
burden of taxation, coming on top of chronic indebtedness to
money-lenders, drove a growing number of farmers to place themselves
under the protection of men of wealth or of the Moslem
religious endowment fund (Waqf), with the result that they were
eventually compelled to give up their title to the land, if not their
actual residence upon and cultivation of it.

It is important to note that the first enduring Jewish agricultural
settlement in modern Palestine was founded not by European refugees,
but by a group of old-time families, leaving the overcrowded
Jewish Quar ter of the Old City of Jerusalem. (According to the
Turkish census of 1875, by that time Jews already constituted a
majority of the population of Jerusalem and by 1905 comprised
two-thirds of its citizens. The Encyclopaedia Britannica of 1910
gives the population figure as 60,000, of whom 40,000 were Jews.)

 

[Billo_Really]

But it is when you claim that the Palestinian animals can plant bombs destined to maim and murder children all they want but Israel cant defend against these bombs. THAT IS RANK HYPOCRISY.

That's not what I said. I said the Pals can do whatever they want to on their own land and it's none of Israel's business. You cannot dictate what someone can do on their own property. If you can't see how wrong that is, why don't you come over to my house and try to tell me what's what under my own roof and see what happens next? I guarantee you will know just how wrong that is. But for some fucked up reason, Israel and their minions, think they can do just that.

Who says the land is not Jewish, and can the Palestinians provide deeds and land title from before 1947 like the Jews can. I have already given you a map of Jewish owned land prior to 1947, now how about you produce one that shows Palestinian owned land from the same period. But here is something for you to digest and try and prove false

Here you go...

A study of Palestine under Turkish rule reveals that already at
the beginning of the 18th century, long before Jewish land purchases
and large-scale Jewish immigration started, the position of the
Palestinian fellah (peasant) had begun to deteriorate. The heavy
burden of taxation, coming on top of chronic indebtedness to
money-lenders, drove a growing number of farmers to place themselves
under the protection of men of wealth or of the Moslem
religious endowment fund (Waqf), with the result that they were
eventually compelled to give up their title to the land, if not their
actual residence upon and cultivation of it.

It is important to note that the first enduring Jewish agricultural
settlement in modern Palestine was founded not by European refugees,
but by a group of old-time families, leaving the overcrowded
Jewish Quar ter of the Old City of Jerusalem. (According to the
Turkish census of 1875, by that time Jews already constituted a
majority of the population of Jerusalem and by 1905 comprised
two-thirds of its citizens. The Encyclopaedia Britannica of 1910
gives the population figure as 60,000, of whom 40,000 were Jews.)

Here's a map according to the Mandate that allocated land for jewish and arab states.





Here's a map of the land Israel occupies, but does not own.





It's also worth mentioning, that after over 50 years, there still isn't a single country on the planet that will recognize Israel's right to that land. Catch the fucking clue!

 

[Hollie]

Praise to Allah. They should also start calling it Judeah and Samaria, it's name for thousands of years until Arab invaders changed it in 1948.

This just shows it is Israel who doesn't want peace.

False. It shows an understanding that peace is not going to be possible with those who are consumed by an ideology that demands the eradication of Jews.

Isreal can make productive use of the land (land annexed from invading arabs), while “Palestinian” arabs cannot.

There is no chance for peace with fascists whose Charter calls for mass murder.

 

[Phoenall]

But it is when you claim that the Palestinian animals can plant bombs destined to maim and murder children all they want but Israel cant defend against these bombs. THAT IS RANK HYPOCRISY.

That's not what I said. I said the Pals can do whatever they want to on their own land and it's none of Israel's business. You cannot dictate what someone can do on their own property. If you can't see how wrong that is, why don't you come over to my house and try to tell me what's what under my own roof and see what happens next? I guarantee you will know just how wrong that is. But for some fucked up reason, Israel and their minions, think they can do just that.

Who says the land is not Jewish, and can the Palestinians provide deeds and land title from before 1947 like the Jews can. I have already given you a map of Jewish owned land prior to 1947, now how about you produce one that shows Palestinian owned land from the same period. But here is something for you to digest and try and prove false

Here you go...

A study of Palestine under Turkish rule reveals that already at
the beginning of the 18th century, long before Jewish land purchases
and large-scale Jewish immigration started, the position of the
Palestinian fellah (peasant) had begun to deteriorate. The heavy
burden of taxation, coming on top of chronic indebtedness to
money-lenders, drove a growing number of farmers to place themselves
under the protection of men of wealth or of the Moslem
religious endowment fund (Waqf), with the result that they were
eventually compelled to give up their title to the land, if not their
actual residence upon and cultivation of it.

It is important to note that the first enduring Jewish agricultural
settlement in modern Palestine was founded not by European refugees,
but by a group of old-time families, leaving the overcrowded
Jewish Quar ter of the Old City of Jerusalem. (According to the
Turkish census of 1875, by that time Jews already constituted a
majority of the population of Jerusalem and by 1905 comprised
two-thirds of its citizens. The Encyclopaedia Britannica of 1910
gives the population figure as 60,000, of whom 40,000 were Jews.)

Here's a map according to the Mandate that allocated land for jewish and arab states.





Here's a map of the land Israel occupies, but does not own.





It's also worth mentioning, that after over 50 years, there still isn't a single country on the planet that will recognize Israel's right to that land. Catch the fucking clue!

So your map shows actual arab ownership with valid land titles, or is it just occupancy without land title. But it still shows a high level of Jewish ownership.

Your map of occupied territory is vastly out of date as Israel has not occupies the Sinai and gaza for some years now. So it not only shows that they have given back over 70% of the occupied land but that you are now clutching at straws.

It is also worth mentioning that according to the UN database Israel has repeatedly offered the land back in return for peace and the return of Jewish owned land in GAZA and WEST BANK. So your LIES show you to be spouting more NAZI ANTISEMITIC RACIST JEW HATRED a crime in most civilised countries.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

No, built on land won in a defensive war, so they are legal.

We've been through this before.

There is no one in the world that will back you up on that claim.

Really? I don't think so.

Land won in a defensive war can be legally held on to. It is only illegal if gained in an attack.

 

[Billo_Really]

Really? I don't think so.

Then name one!

Name one fucking country that recognizes Israel's right to that land. Just one.

That's all you gotta do.

Land won in a defensive war can be legally held on to. It is only illegal if gained in an attack.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat that bullshit, nothing changes the fact that Israel attacked first, which makes it an offensive war.

You can't claim defense, when you fired the first shot.

 

[Billo_Really]

So your map shows actual arab ownership with valid land titles, or is it just occupancy without land title. But it still shows a high level of Jewish ownership.

That is the official land ownership records of that time.

Your map of occupied territory is vastly out of date as Israel has not occupies the Sinai and gaza for some years now. So it not only shows that they have given back over 70% of the occupied land but that you are now clutching at straws.

Israel still occupies Gaza and Israel still has over 500 roadblocks and checkpoints in the West Bank, is demolishing Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem, still occupies the Golan Heights and is still maintaining the illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza.

It is also worth mentioning that according to the UN database Israel has repeatedly offered the land back in return for peace and the return of Jewish owned land in GAZA and WEST BANK. So your LIES show you to be spouting more NAZI ANTISEMITIC RACIST JEW HATRED a crime in most civilised countries.

How many times do I have to fucking tell you, you can't give what you don't have? And Israel doesn't own that land. So if they don't own it, they can't offer it. All they can do, is get the fuck off it!

 

[Billo_Really]

False. It shows an understanding that peace is not going to be possible with those who are consumed by an ideology that demands the eradication of Jews.

Oh, shut the fuck up!

You're more consumed with wiping them out, than they are about wiping you out.

Isreal can make productive use of the land (land annexed from invading arabs), while “Palestinian” arabs cannot.

The only thing Israel is going to "make" with that land, is an exit.

They will never own it and the world won't allow them to annex it.

They wouldn't let Hitler do it and they won't let you fucking do it, either.

There is no chance for peace with fascists whose Charter calls for mass murder.

There's no chance for peace, because racist whores such as yourself, don't want peace.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Really? I don't think so.

Then name one!

Name one fucking country that recognizes Israel's right to that land. Just one.

That's all you gotta do.

Land won in a defensive war can be legally held on to. It is only illegal if gained in an attack.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat that bullshit, nothing changes the fact that Israel attacked first, which makes it an offensive war.

You can't claim defense, when you fired the first shot.

Although Israel attacked Egypt first in the Six-Day War, it was Jordan that opened fire on Israel in Jerusalem and the West Bank, which caused Israel to capture those territories.

 

[Phoenall]

So your map shows actual arab ownership with valid land titles, or is it just occupancy without land title. But it still shows a high level of Jewish ownership.

That is the official land ownership records of that time.

Your map of occupied territory is vastly out of date as Israel has not occupies the Sinai and gaza for some years now. So it not only shows that they have given back over 70% of the occupied land but that you are now clutching at straws.

Israel still occupies Gaza and Israel still has over 500 roadblocks and checkpoints in the West Bank, is demolishing Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem, still occupies the Golan Heights and is still maintaining the illegal and immoral blockade of Gaza.

It is also worth mentioning that according to the UN database Israel has repeatedly offered the land back in return for peace and the return of Jewish owned land in GAZA and WEST BANK. So your LIES show you to be spouting more NAZI ANTISEMITIC RACIST JEW HATRED a crime in most civilised countries.

How many times do I have to fucking tell you, you can't give what you don't have? And Israel doesn't own that land. So if they don't own it, they can't offer it. All they can do, is get the fuck off it!

How stupid can you be, if Israel gives back the land and removes all of it citizens from it then it no longer occupies the land. How can they occupy something they have given up, and the blockade is not occupation either.

The blockade has been shown by the UN to be legal and in line with its charter as recently as 2011, or are you now saying that the UN are complicit in breaches of International law. The gazans have one of the best lifestyles of all the M.E places, with 5 star hotels, 3 star restaraunts, country clubs, casino's, golf courses to international standard and many private swimming pools. I WISH I LIVED UNDER OCCUPATION OF THAT STANDARD DONT YOU

Israel exercised its rights under the Geneva conventions to occupy the land over run in 1967 as a defensive shield to safeguard it citizens. It has offered to relinquish its presence on this land in return for a lasting peace and negotiated borders. It has negotiated peace with Egypt and relinquished its hold on Egyptian land, it negotiated peace with Jordan and relinquished its hold on Jordanian land. This only leaves two nations to negotiate peace with, and they are Syria and Lebanon. If you look at all the UN resolutions there is no mention of Palestine, because it has no legal standing as a nation until it agrees peace terms and land swaps. Those are the facts that you find so hard to understand, Israel is acting in accordance with International law and the Geneva conventions at every step. It could if it so wished exercise another aspect of International law and the Geneva conventions and roll across gaza killing everything that moves and flattening every building because of the unprovoked attacks on its civilians. They could even use low yield nuclear weapons if they so wished

 

[Phoenall]

False. It shows an understanding that peace is not going to be possible with those who are consumed by an ideology that demands the eradication of Jews.

Oh, shut the fuck up!

You're more consumed with wiping them out, than they are about wiping you out.

Isreal can make productive use of the land (land annexed from invading arabs), while “Palestinian” arabs cannot.

The only thing Israel is going to "make" with that land, is an exit.

They will never own it and the world won't allow them to annex it.

They wouldn't let Hitler do it and they won't let you fucking do it, either.

There is no chance for peace with fascists whose Charter calls for mass murder.

There's no chance for peace, because racist whores such as yourself, don't want peace.

I see you are losing the argument and have resorted to using colourful language more akin to crack whores and illiterate gangbangers.