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-1. Of course, I do not know the accuracy of all those accusations.The true story not told in the western press
FIRST ACTS OF TERRORISM, COINING THE PHRASE
Hagana, Irgun and Stern gangs who threw bombs into buses, assassinated British and other officials and murdered Palestinians way before the Palestinians retaliated in kind. (what goes around comes around)https://rense.com//general21/pastzionist.htm
November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.
October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.
September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.
December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.
January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.
January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.
January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.
February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.
March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.
March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.
April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.
April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.
May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.
May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
If this doesn’t sicken you then you are part of the problem.
But don’t just reject or accept what I have posted.
Google “Israel shooting children”
Google “Israel illegal settlements”
Google Hagana, Irgun and Stern gangs
try this link
https://rense.com//general21/pastzionist.htm
Once done, come back and try to defend what you saw/read------
I am against any form of terrorism from anywhere for any reason, period.so we should not be shocked that some Palestinians are using terrorism to achieve an independent Palestinian state.
-There were no Palestinians there at all. And there still are no Palestiians there. They were Roaming Arabs and also other Arabs that owned real estate in that area.
I had an important discussion with one of the Arabs who is angry to this day his family was forced to sell out. But we also do this in America using eminent domain laws.
1. Of course, I do not know the accuracy of all those accusations.
2. I do know that some of them were true, especially the one regarding the King David Hotel.
3. Maybe I am wrong, but I guess the OP is saying that people used terrorism to realize their dream of an independent Jewish homeland, so we should not be shocked that some Palestinians are using terrorism to achieve an independent Palestinian state.
4. I am not smart enough to understand the fallacy of that kind of thinking. Hopefully, there are members who can.
Today is what matters... what will you have happen?... all the Jews leave Israel?.... or kill all the Jews in Israel?... or Kill all the Jews world wide?... you need to pick one and stand by it... Then compare your desire to the desires of Hitler.... feel ashamed yet?... if not you are evil....I know that you can't accept the fact that it was Jews that brought Terrorism into the Middle-east, too bad for you.
The Present Israeli-Palestine conflict took is beginnings from 1932-1948 - via Jewish terrorists killing Arabs and Palestinians in order to frighten them out of the British mandate of Palestine. Reaching it's ultimo height in 1948 - Since then the Palestinians have been fighting back, using the exact same terrorist methods they adopted from the Jews.
As such there is no need to go back further into time - it's only some crazy nuts who come up with British Palestine having supposedly been originally Jewish 3200 years ago - and therefore trying to base a ridiculous claim onto that region.
Due to the Palestinians realizing after the 1967 war - that the Arab nations would not be able to defeat Israel - they took terrorist means onto an international level - via e.g. Black September - wrongly believing that those countries supporting Israel - might draw back their support due to PLO terrorist actions.
Since then more Europeans, Americans and others have been killed then Jews in Israel.
If you want to condemn terrorism and terrorist means - that's just fine with me. However then you would also need to condemn the French Resistance during WW2 (Which no one does) - and the Israeli actions since 1932 till today. (Which no one does aside from Muslim countries) However since the present actions in Gaza by the IDF - more and more non-Muslim countries are siding with the Palestinian cause.
And aside from some nutcases in e.g. Iran - No other country and it's respective government supported or applauded the Hamas terrorist action. However the USA is "unconditionally" supporting Israel and it's war-crimes in Gaza and the West-Bank. !!
Now that Biden starts to get "issues" with Israel - he is attacked as being stupid, weak and whatever other negative comments !!
Let's be clear - Biden aka the US government, doesn't give a shit about Israels war-crimes or it's illegal settlement policy - Biden can simply see that the USA is losing it's stand aka control towards the international community, which the USA needs in regards to China and Russia - and he is afraid of losing a vast swath of potential US voters with an election just looming around the corner.
I disagree but so what?.... we are on traditional American Indian land... so are you ready to leave America or kill yourself?... focus on today... what would you prefer... that the Jews pack up and leave Israel or should they all be killed?... just what is your solution besides sounding like a hateful bigot?.... if the so called Palestinians can't live in peace next to Jews fuck them.... I say its 2023 get over it....The facts are it is traditional Arab land, with the Canaanites going back 10,000 years.
The Hebrew tribes from Egypt invaded around 1000 BC, but only ruled for about 150 years before being defeated by the Assyrians, never to rule again.
The Romans pretended to make Jewish rule for about 100 years, but that was fake.
King Herod was a Roman who pretended to convert to Judaism.
And the Romans finally kicked them out from 60 AD to 160 AD.
What would you have happen?... all the Jews leave Israel?.... or kill all the Jews in Israel?... or Kill all the Jews world wide?... you need to pick one and stand by it... Then compare your desire to the desires of Hitler.... feel ashamed yet?... if not you are evil....The Jewish terror gangs were formed in 1920-22. Before 1948 they killed over 600 British peacekeepers including Count Folke Bernadotte who saved 30 thousand Jews from the holy. They are a ruthless, damaged people.
Today is what matters... what will you have happen?... all the Jews leave Israel?.... or kill all the Jews in Israel?... or Kill all the Jews world wide?... you need to pick one and stand by it... Then compare your desire to the desires of Hitler.... feel ashamed yet?... if not you are evil....
I disagree but so what?.... we are on traditional American Indian land... so are you ready to leave America or kill yourself?... focus on today... what would you prefer... that the Jews pack up and leave Israel or should they all be killed?... just what is your solution besides sounding like a hateful bigot?.... if the so called Palestinians can't live in peace next to Jews fuck them.... I say its 2023 get over it....
And you actually think that would bring peace to Israel?.... the problem is you may want the Jews to leave but Hamas and the Palestinians want them dead... so now consider that and come up with an addendum to your fix.... because that won't work it would just make the Palestinians stronger and more deadly... And then after that happens.... make a plan for the USA since we are on Indian land... where should we pull back to?....Just pull back from the Golan Heights, the West Bank and East Jerusalem. They should also leave Lebanon alone. It was the Paris of the Mediterranean before they started in on them in 1950.
Wait a min.... what should we do?... is it a matter of time for you?... why are you so into making Israeli Jews leave their stolen land and homes but you won't leave your stolen land?... and you still haven't given me an answer to my question.... Why are the Palestinians allowed to be bigots and no one else can?... and why are you so aligned with a terrorist nation like Iran?... better check yourself Surada....Colonizing occupied land is no longer legal. Those were some shameful days in our history. What we did to the native Americans is not a source of pride.
The topic is not me bub.Most Arabs were not bedouin. You're just really ignorant.
Eminent domain? It was simple theft and greed.
It has been a decade or so since I talked to an Arab whose family was harmed when Israel was formed into a country. Still to this day, there is no such country called Palestine. It shocked me how pissed he was off though this event happened in the 1940s and we were discussing it as I recall when Clinton was president. He was prosperous and wanted to work with me to buy him another home though he ended up buying another brand new home and I sold for clients, their homes. I could not help him. He comes to mind though he had plenty of money, he and his wife were true walkers around Fremont, CA. The time I saw them in a car, it was my car. I also had a client from NY State who was also just a walker unless he went with me to places. He moved from Fremont, to Bellevue WA years ago. He would go camping with me at times and could walk me to death.In 1948 - 1.1 million Palestinians, 250-300,000 Bedouins, 45000 others and around 800,000 Jews (of which around 600,000 constituted illegal immigrants from Europe) coming in from 1933 onward and a huge number "around 450,000" from 1945-1948.
Though he never bought a home, using me as a Broker, I had some excellent chats with a man who was born where GAZA now is. He had a troubling story about his parents who he said lost property when Israel formed. He flew for an Arab Airlines, retired as a Pilot of commercial airplanes. I also used to get taught things by some Iranians.Jews were better at it than Arabs, and almost in everything else, too, watchingfromafar
And you actually think that would bring peace to Israel?.... the problem is you may want the Jews to leave but Hamas and the Palestinians want them dead... so now consider that and come up with an addendum to your fix.... because that won't work it would just make the Palestinians stronger and more deadly... And then after that happens.... make a plan for the USA since we are on Indian land... where should we pull back to?....
My question stands unanswered.... why can't the Palestinians live in peace with Jews?.... why are they the only approved bigots on the planet?....
1920 again?... there are a lot of years between then and now do you want to compare atrocities?... because I can play that game with you and the Jews haven't done anything close to taking heads off babies and raping dead boys and women... why don't you tell us why you don't care about that?....Yes.
The Jewish refugees began abusing the Arabs in 1920. They were all Socialists and they told the Arabs they would make them slaves. Most of the Jewish refugees were brutal gutter snipes from Eastern Europe.
Maybe you need to think it through all the way ?1. Of course, I do not know the accuracy of all those accusations.
2. I do know that some of them were true, especially the one regarding the King David Hotel.
3. Maybe I am wrong, but I guess the OP is saying that people used terrorism to realize their dream of an independent Jewish homeland, so we should not be shocked that some Palestinians are using terrorism to achieve an independent Palestinian state.
4. I am not smart enough to understand the fallacy of that kind of thinking. Hopefully, there are members who can.
And this is the whole and only issue -so when are the Palestinians going to get their own country? Israel obviously isn't interested to return the stolen and occupied land to them.Still to this day, there is no such country called Palestine.
