Israel Could Collapse Within a Year, Warns Retired IDF General

[ShahdagMountains]

The US has no influence over Israel. None. They have betrayed every US president since Truman... including Reagan. Leave them alone and let them do their thing.

 

[surada]

Clinton got exactly what the Palestinians claimed they wanted...

No he didn't.. Israel offered tiny disconnected bantustans...criss crossed by Jewish only roads and settlements.

 

[Rambunctious]

No he didn't.. Israel offered tiny disconnected bantustans...criss crossed by Jewish only roads and settlements.

That is not true... but you can try and prove it if you want...

 

[Mac-7]

No he didn't.. Israel offered tiny disconnected bantustans...criss crossed by Jewish only roads and settlements.

The problem is that the Pals have never been willing to live peacefully

They keep losing the wars, but they never give up

 

[Rambunctious]

No he didn't.. Israel offered tiny disconnected bantustans...criss crossed by Jewish only roads and settlements.

The settlements were to stop... don't you remember Israeli forces dragging Jews from their homes?... you don't know what you are talking about....

 

[Rambunctious]

surada come on prove what you say...

 

[Rambunctious]

surada or just run away again....

 

[surada]

The settlements were to stop... don't you remember Israeli forces dragging Jews from their homes?... you don't know what you are talking about....

They have taken the Golan heights, shaaba farms, East Jerusalem and the West Bank

 

[Donald H]

Why should America do anything? We have no influence over Israel.

America shouldn't do anything more for the Zionist regime. It's risking escalation and risking America's security. But it's probably too late now anyway. That regime will never live in peace because of their apartheid and genocide against Palestinians.

 

[Rambunctious]

They have taken the Golan heights, shaaba farms, East Jerusalem and the West Bank

Do you remember Jews being forced from their homes and settlement's by IDF troops or not?....

 

[surada]

Do you remember Jews being forced from their homes and settlement's by IDF troops or not?....

Proposed in the fall of 2000 following the collapse of the Camp David talks, The Clinton Parameters included a plan on which the Palestinian State was to include 94-96% of the West Bank, and around 80% of the settlers were to become under Israeli sovereignty, and in exchange for that, Israel would concede some territory (so called 'Territory Exchange' or 'Land Swap') within the Green Line (1967 borders).

The swap would consist of 1–3% of Israeli territory, such that the final borders of the West Bank part of the Palestinian state would include 97% of the land of the original borders.

 

[Rambunctious]

Proposed in the fall of 2000 following the collapse of the Camp David talks, The Clinton Parameters included a plan on which the Palestinian State was to include 94-96% of the West Bank, and around 80% of the settlers were to become under Israeli sovereignty, and in exchange for that, Israel would concede some territory (so called 'Territory Exchange' or 'Land Swap') within the Green Line (1967 borders).

The swap would consist of 1–3% of Israeli territory, such that the final borders of the West Bank part of the Palestinian state would include 97% of the land of the original borders.

Bill Clinton: 'I killed myself to give the Palestinians a state'

It started when a spectator yelled, "What about Gaza?"

www.politico.com

 

[Rambunctious]

Palestinians Reject Clinton Plan

abcnews.go.com

 

[Rambunctious]

Arafat rejects Clinton peace plan

Palestinian leader leaves Washington as Israel braced for more violenceSpecial report: Israel & Middle East

www.theguardian.com

Remember the right of return?.... probably not because it wasn't a Palestinian condition until Arafat used it to make Clinton look stupid.... are you Muslim by any chance?.... because you argue like one...

 

[surada]

Bill Clinton: 'I killed myself to give the Palestinians a state'

It started when a spectator yelled, "What about Gaza?"

www.politico.com

Hamas was created by Israel. The Muslim and Christian Palestinians tried to stop it.

 

[surada]

Arafat rejects Clinton peace plan

Palestinian leader leaves Washington as Israel braced for more violenceSpecial report: Israel & Middle East

www.theguardian.com

Remember the right of return?.... probably not because it wasn't a Palestinian condition until Arafat used it to make Clinton look stupid.... are you Muslim by any chance?.... because you argue like one...

Nope I'm Episcopalian.

 

[surada]

What kind of horseshit is that? That general is being payed to spew garbage like that!

Israel is the biggest military power in the region and they are not going anywhere. There isn't a single country in the ME that has the ability to take Israel out.

No country wants to take Israel out. A just peace would be helpful.

Israeli support for Hamas - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Former Israeli officials have openly acknowledged Israel's role in providing funding and assistance to Hamas as a means of undermining secular Palestinian factions such as the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).

 

[Donald H]

Palestinians Reject Clinton Plan

abcnews.go.com

Of course they rejected it and justifiably so.
US bullshit doesn't rule the ME anymore and theat regime has no friends left there. Now Hamas's cause is taken on by a united force, led by Iran and fortified by Russia and China.

The Balfour experiment is failed and it's over. Jewish people will continue to leave the war torn turmoil the Zionists have created. The one state solution will come about but it won't be controlled by the Zionists 'or' the Jewish people.

Can you think of a better way of finally finding a peaceful solution?

 

[Zincwarrior]

We have no treaty with them, nor are they a US territory. Sudan is in trouble, Ethiopia is teetering, Libya is teetering, Venezuela is teetering, Mexico is teetering. Not our circus, not our monkeys.

 

[Donald H]

No country wants to take Israel out. A just peace would be helpful.

No, not anymore. They all do and even Turkey won't object. Likely the only solution for America is an escalated war against everybody! Their genocide against the Palestinian people has sealed their fate.