Israel calling up 300,000 reservists Invasion is imminent.

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I can't think even for a moment that this was not expected by those who fostered the surprise attack. So what's the end game? Israel will occupy and absorb Palestine...there's no question about that now. Since the planners and schemers knew this would happen what are they planning to do about it? I think the answer is obvious. This is about taking the retreat option away in a larger confrontation.
Palestine will no longer be a bargaining chip.
I have a feeling That was the point of this entire conflict.

Jo
 
Sucks to be Hamas.

They had to know this would happen
 
Sucks to be Hamas.

They had to know this would happen
That's what bothers me... they certainly did know. This was all very well planned and executed according to plan. I have a feeling we will see more surprises in the unfolding weeks and months ahead. Nobody pokes one of the worlds most dangerous militaries without having mapped out both the response and the end game.

Jo
 

I can't think even for a moment that this was not expected by those who fostered the surprise attack. So what's the end game? Israel will occupy and absorb Palestine...there's no question about that now. Since the planners and schemers knew this would happen what are they planning to do about it? I think the answer is obvious. This is about taking the retreat option away in a larger confrontation.
Palestine will no longer be a bargaining chip.
I have a feeling That was the point of this entire conflict.

Jo
I don't see the point.

Why waste one Jewish life by beginning a ground operation when you can just drop bombs on the SOBs till their towns are nothing but rubble.
 
I don't see the point.

Why waste one Jewish life by beginning a ground operation when you can just drop bombs on the SOBs till their towns are nothing but rubble.
Yeah.... remember that it's not all roses in the knesset. While Israel is unified there are underlying tensions that want all hostilities to cease. Unfortunately with Hamas' openly stated goal of eradication that cannot ever happen.
I think the idea is to annex Palestine both politically and culturally not to destroy it.
 

I can't think even for a moment that this was not expected by those who fostered the surprise attack. So what's the end game? Israel will occupy and absorb Palestine...there's no question about that now. Since the planners and schemers knew this would happen what are they planning to do about it? I think the answer is obvious. This is about taking the retreat option away in a larger confrontation.
Palestine will no longer be a bargaining chip.
I have a feeling That was the point of this entire conflict.

Jo
The end game is to get all Muslim fronts to attack Israel and destroy it. It has been the purpose of Muslims since 1920 when they heard that the Jews were going to be allowed to rebuild their nation on their own Jewish Homeland.


Iran supplies Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in the Lebanon and trains many in Syria.


Iran is very happy with the 800 plus dead in Israel. Does not care how many die in Gaza or with Hezbollah if that group foolishly chooses to come full blow, instead of the few things happening in the North.


Taliban has offered to come. Who knows what other terrorists they are hoping to become motivated to come and destroy Israel and kill all the Jews.


BTW, there is no Palestine. Gaza is not Palestine.
Abbas can call his part in Judea and Samaria as Palestine State all he likes, but he has always been intent in destroying Israel.


That is why UNWRA still exists. To LIE about Palestinians being forever refugees. Forever until Israel is gone. Because some in Islam have invented that all land conquered by Islam is forever Islamic land and Especially Jews are not allowed to be sovereign over "Islamic Land".


Mandate for Palestine was to rebuild the Nation of the Jewish People ON their Jewish Homeland. 78% was stolen by the British government in 1922 and given to Arab foreigners.


And the Muslims will not be happy until ALL of the Mandate is back in "Muslim hands".


I hope you learn something from the history above.
 
Yeah.... remember that it's not all roses in the knesset. While Israel is unified there are underlying tensions that want all hostilities to cease. Unfortunately with Hamas' openly stated goal of eradication that cannot ever happen.
I think the idea is to annex Palestine both politically and culturally not to destroy it.
How is Israel going to Annex GAZA, not Palestine? What of all the people there?

You are actually saying that Israel has to Occupy, which is what the Muslims have been accusing Israel of, regardless of the fact that it does not, neither does Egypt which has a blockade against Gaza.

Let things take place, let it play out. No one knows what the Israeli government will decide to do, it is way too early.
 
Yeah.... remember that it's not all roses in the knesset. While Israel is unified there are underlying tensions that want all hostilities to cease. Unfortunately with Hamas' openly stated goal of eradication that cannot ever happen.
I think the idea is to annex Palestine both politically and culturally not to destroy it.
remember----as to the issue as to WHY HAMAS chose now to engage
in a coordinated and massive, and expensive attack on Israel---
THINK IRAN. Why did Iran want it? (afterall they paid for it) What
did Iran hope to gain. The operation was well planned and took
well....according to the experts at least six month of recon. and
planning. Iran is now a bit isolated. Does anyone really imagine that
Iran trusts China and Russia? Iran has domestic discontent and
economic woes and is on the brink of losing its arab oil allies. I
believe that the operation "happened" in order to raise IRANIAN
PRESTIGE in the muslim world----vanquish Israel and ATTAIN JANNAH. Iran is desperate----but the old aphorism re a RAT WITH ITS BACK
AGAINST THE WALL ----seems to apply
 
How is Israel going to Annex GAZA, not Palestine? What of all the people there?

You are actually saying that Israel has to Occupy, which is what the Muslims have been accusing Israel of, regardless of the fact that it does not, neither does Egypt which has a blockade against Gaza.

Let things take place, let it play out. No one knows what the Israeli government will decide to do, it is way too early.
My concern is not what Israel will do next. I think we all know that. But since Hamas had to absolutely know what was going to happen what is the trap that Is real might be walking into? They wouldn't do this just on a lark. There is a lot more going on here that could bring bigger players into the game.
 
remember----as to the issue as to WHY HAMAS chose now to engage
in a coordinated and massive, and expensive attack on Israel---
THINK IRAN. Why did Iran want it? (afterall they paid for it) What
did Iran hope to gain. The operation was well planned and took
well....according to the experts at least six month of recon. and
planning. Iran is now a bit isolated. Does anyone really imagine that
Iran trusts China and Russia? Iran has domestic discontent and
economic woes and is on the brink of losing its arab oil allies. I
believe that the operation "happened" in order to raise IRANIAN
PRESTIGE in the muslim world----vanquish Israel and ATTAIN JANNAH. Iran is desperate----but the old aphorism re a RAT WITH ITS BACK
AGAINST THE WALL ----seems to apply
Sounds like a well thought out response.
 

I can't think even for a moment that this was not expected by those who fostered the surprise attack. So what's the end game? Israel will occupy and absorb Palestine...there's no question about that now. Since the planners and schemers knew this would happen what are they planning to do about it? I think the answer is obvious. This is about taking the retreat option away in a larger confrontation.
Palestine will no longer be a bargaining chip.
I have a feeling That was the point of this entire conflict.

Jo

Israel has been taking more land for decades....

Golan heights, Gaza, Becca valley and Shabba farms, the West Bank and East Jerusalem. That's not what they were given.
 

I can't think even for a moment that this was not expected by those who fostered the surprise attack. So what's the end game? Israel will occupy and absorb Palestine...there's no question about that now. Since the planners and schemers knew this would happen what are they planning to do about it? I think the answer is obvious. This is about taking the retreat option away in a larger confrontation.
Palestine will no longer be a bargaining chip.
I have a feeling That was the point of this entire conflict.

Jo

Derail a Saudi-Israeli treaty mostly. Israel will sweep through, set up a lot of road blocks, kick in a lot of doors, starve the locals, and eventually retreat under international pressure.
 
Israel has been taking more land for decades....

Golan heights, Gaza, Becca valley and Shabba farms, the West Bank and East Jerusalem. That's not what they were given.
Stop lying.
Taking land from the enemy who was attacking Israel is not "taking land".

Jordan took all of Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter you choose to call "East Jerusalem" and attacked and expelled all the Jews from there.

STOP lying about the poor, poor Palestinians who were taught lies about the Jews wanting to murder and rape all Arabs and got many Muslim Arabs to massacre Jews from 1920 on.


STOP LYING !!!!
 
Stop lying.
Taking land from the enemy who was attacking Israel is not "taking land".

Jordan took all of Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter you choose to call "East Jerusalem" and attacked and expelled all the Jews from there.

STOP lying about the poor, poor Palestinians who were taught lies about the Jews wanting to murder and rape all Arabs and got many Muslim Arabs to massacre Jews from 1920 on.


STOP LYING !!!!
take it as comic relief.
 
Stop lying.
Taking land from the enemy who was attacking Israel is not "taking land".

Jordan took all of Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter you choose to call "East Jerusalem" and attacked and expelled all the Jews from there.

STOP lying about the poor, poor Palestinians who were taught lies about the Jews wanting to murder and rape all Arabs and got many Muslim Arabs to massacre Jews from 1920 on.


STOP LYING !!!!
 
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It looks like this was planned out well before Obama's 3rd term antisemitic Brandon Administration paid Iran $6B. So you have to wonder if Obama's 3rd term antisemitic Brandon Administration gave the go ahead and agreed to pay for it.

Unless the objective is to widen and increase chaos and terror in the world in advance of some False Flag in the USA ("Mossad" assassinates Brandon?) -- what's the point? It's not well thought out at all! It's looks like the bad intel the CIA gave Obama's 3rd term antisemitic Brandon Administration and the Globalists on Russia's military response and capabilities regarding Ukraine

Why was Mossad asleep at the switch? The CIA is woke and focused on Americans, what is Mossad's issue?
 
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