Isn’t it time we brought back the pomp and circumstance and the sense of awe for that office

[Avatar4321]

The precedent was set... 8 years ago

I don't recall this level of disrespect from President Obama toward those who hurt his feelings.

This is what I see from the current president.

That's because we didn't attack his feelings. Instead he treated his political foes with contempt and bullied them around to protect his agenda.

The fuck you say!

I guess I forgot about the unprecedented level of respect Obama's foes showed him!

Calling him out for lies when he lies is disrespect now ?

Interrupting a Presidential address to Congress is high-level disrespect.

Lying during a presidential address to congress is far worse.

Besides they interrupt the address with clapping every two minutes

 

[Divine Wind]

If Project Veritas was honest press, you'd have a point.

Every video they produce is heavily editorialized and edited, with one agenda- to gather evidence that supports their thesis, and disregard the rest.

The dishonest press is CNN, as Veritas proved. You just don't like that they exposed the party of Fuhrer Soros.

Just CNN? Doubtful. Yes, there's definitely bias, but "Project Veritas" is equally biased. They only attack those politically opposed to the far RW agenda. Where is their expose' on Fox? Russian Television? Breitbart? Infowars?

About | Project Veritas
Founded by James O’Keefe, the mission of Project Veritas is to:

Investigate and expose corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud, and other misconduct in both public and private institutions in order to achieve a more ethical and transparent society.

Project Veritas is the most effective non-profit on the national scene, period.

We’ve had dozens of successes, many of which are detailed on this site. The pattern is clear:

Project Veritas launches an investigation with the placement of our undercover journalists. The rollout of our findings creates a growing and uncontainable firestorm of press coverage. Corruption is exposed, leaders resign, and organizations are shut down.

We get immediate, measurable and impactful results, and our return on investment is unparalleled.

Project Veritas is a registered 501(c)3 organization. Project Veritas does not advocate specific resolutions to the issues that are raised through its investigations, nor do we encourage others to do so. Our goal is to inform the public of wrongdoing and allow the public to make judgments on the issues.

A noble goal that is belied by the fact that O'Keefe only targets those he opposes, not all "corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud, and other misconduct in both public and private institutions". Note his top stories and other "investigations": Project Veritas | Investigating and exposing corruption in both public and private institutions.

While I don't like the idea of billionaires like Soros manipulating the American public, I also don't like RW billionaires like the Koch brothers doing the same thing. Does anyone know where O'Keefe gets most of his funding? That can't be cheap.

At least the Koch Brothers emphasis is on public policies based on the principles of individual liberty, limited government, free markets, and peace. Their stated vision, as described in the CATO Institute charter is to create free, open, and civil societies founded on libertarian principles.

Soros' agenda is more socialism, more government control, along with a kind of soft Marxism shrouded in a 'one world government' concept.

President Trump's agenda is far more aligned with the Koch Brothers than it is with Soros.

Disagreed. None of those assholes are altruists. They're all just using populism to manipulate the American public for their own ends. O'Keefe's "Project Veritas" (Project Truth) is as honest and even handed as Orwell's "Ministry of Truth". Frankly, I'm sick of the increasingly strident partisan bullshit that has passed for US politics for the past three decades. I think many Americans have the same concerns as polls have consistently proved.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Wrong! They were hired to represent their constituents' best interest, not govern.

That is governing.

No, it's not. You know who governs?

Governors.

They are all part of the government.

We have 50 States...you are starting to sound like pogo.

It the United States of America

Not the united state ...


We hate the elite fags of California / new York and the 47% trying to get free stuff.






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Agreed it's the United States. However, when you say "We hate...." you're joining the "United State" mob.

Its us against freedom and the liberal elites and the poor who is to lazy to get a job ...

And rely on hand outs.

 

[Marion Morrison]

That is governing.

No, it's not. You know who governs?

Governors.

They are all part of the government.

We have 50 States...you are starting to sound like pogo.

It the United States of America

Not the united state ...


We hate the elite fags of California / new York and the 47% trying to get free stuff.






.

Agreed it's the United States. However, when you say "We hate...." you're joining the "United State" mob.

Its us against against freedom and the liberal elites and the poor who is to lazy to get a job ...

Us against freedom?

 

[Wyatt earp]

No, it's not. You know who governs?

Governors.

They are all part of the government.

We have 50 States...you are starting to sound like pogo.

It the United States of America

Not the united state ...


We hate the elite fags of California / new York and the 47% trying to get free stuff.






.

Agreed it's the United States. However, when you say "We hate...." you're joining the "United State" mob.

Its us against against freedom and the liberal elites and the poor who is to lazy to get a job ...

Us against freedom?

You know what I meant


Enjoying the weekend.

 

[Marion Morrison]

They are all part of the government.

We have 50 States...you are starting to sound like pogo.

It the United States of America

Not the united state ...


We hate the elite fags of California / new York and the 47% trying to get free stuff.






.

Agreed it's the United States. However, when you say "We hate...." you're joining the "United State" mob.

Its us against against freedom and the liberal elites and the poor who is to lazy to get a job ...

Us against freedom?

You know what I meant


Enjoying the weekend.

..Gotcha.

 

[OKTexas]

The president of the United States is the most powerful person in the world. The president is the spokesman for democracy and liberty. Isn’t it time we brought back the pomp and circumstance and the sense of awe for that office that we all held? That means everyone in the administration should look and act professionally, especially the presidential. Impressions matter.”

I seldom, if ever, agree with the individual that allegedly wrote those words, but in this case they are spot on.

Yeah, that'd be great, unfortunately, that's not what's needed right now.

What's needed right now is a bull in a china shop.

Pretty sure that's exactly the case right now as well.

So Trump takes your dear leaders advice and that makes him wrong?

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun," Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night. "Because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I've seen Eagles fans."

Obama Flashback: 'If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun'...

“I WANT YOU TO GET IN THEIR FACE.” — BARACK
OBAMA

OBAMA TO SUPPORTERS: "GET IN THEIR FACE!" - Geller Report

Should I go on?


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[Seawytch]

Amazing how much Trumps own words repeatedly come back to haunt him...

The president of the United States is the most powerful person in the world. The president is the spokesman for democracy and liberty. Isn’t it time we brought back the pomp and circumstance and the sense of awe for that office that we all held? That means everyone in the administration should look and act professionally, especially the presidential. Impressions matter.”

 

[Divine Wind]

That is governing.

No, it's not. You know who governs?

Governors.

They are all part of the government.

We have 50 States...you are starting to sound like pogo.

It the United States of America

Not the united state ...


We hate the elite fags of California / new York and the 47% trying to get free stuff.






.

Agreed it's the United States. However, when you say "We hate...." you're joining the "United State" mob.

Its us against freedom and the liberal elites and the poor who is to lazy to get a job ...

And rely on hand outs.

"Us" as in your "United State" or "us" as in "We, the People"?

You know it's not just the "liberal elites" that are a problem, right? It's the authoritarian elite which seeks to manipulate opinions for their own ends which are the true enemy of "We, the People".

 

[PredFan]

The president of the United States is the most powerful person in the world. The president is the spokesman for democracy and liberty. Isn’t it time we brought back the pomp and circumstance and the sense of awe for that office that we all held? That means everyone in the administration should look and act professionally, especially the presidential. Impressions matter.”

I seldom, if ever, agree with the individual that allegedly wrote those words, but in this case they are spot on.

Disagree. To what purpose does that serve? None. It's past time for our President to have some attitude.

 

[Divine Wind]

Its us against freedom and the liberal elites and the poor who is to lazy to get a job ...

And rely on hand outs.

An excellent example of a Freudian Slip. That is exactly my point about the problem with authoritarians regardless of their stated politics or agenda.

 

[Foxfyre]

If Project Veritas was honest press, you'd have a point.

Every video they produce is heavily editorialized and edited, with one agenda- to gather evidence that supports their thesis, and disregard the rest.

The dishonest press is CNN, as Veritas proved. You just don't like that they exposed the party of Fuhrer Soros.

Just CNN? Doubtful. Yes, there's definitely bias, but "Project Veritas" is equally biased. They only attack those politically opposed to the far RW agenda. Where is their expose' on Fox? Russian Television? Breitbart? Infowars?

About | Project Veritas
Founded by James O’Keefe, the mission of Project Veritas is to:

Investigate and expose corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud, and other misconduct in both public and private institutions in order to achieve a more ethical and transparent society.

Project Veritas is the most effective non-profit on the national scene, period.

We’ve had dozens of successes, many of which are detailed on this site. The pattern is clear:

Project Veritas launches an investigation with the placement of our undercover journalists. The rollout of our findings creates a growing and uncontainable firestorm of press coverage. Corruption is exposed, leaders resign, and organizations are shut down.

We get immediate, measurable and impactful results, and our return on investment is unparalleled.

Project Veritas is a registered 501(c)3 organization. Project Veritas does not advocate specific resolutions to the issues that are raised through its investigations, nor do we encourage others to do so. Our goal is to inform the public of wrongdoing and allow the public to make judgments on the issues.

A noble goal that is belied by the fact that O'Keefe only targets those he opposes, not all "corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud, and other misconduct in both public and private institutions". Note his top stories and other "investigations": Project Veritas | Investigating and exposing corruption in both public and private institutions.

While I don't like the idea of billionaires like Soros manipulating the American public, I also don't like RW billionaires like the Koch brothers doing the same thing. Does anyone know where O'Keefe gets most of his funding? That can't be cheap.

At least the Koch Brothers emphasis is on public policies based on the principles of individual liberty, limited government, free markets, and peace. Their stated vision, as described in the CATO Institute charter is to create free, open, and civil societies founded on libertarian principles.

Soros' agenda is more socialism, more government control, along with a kind of soft Marxism shrouded in a 'one world government' concept.

President Trump's agenda is far more aligned with the Koch Brothers than it is with Soros.

The Koch's don't like Trump and refused to support him, except for the outcast black sheep brother.

I think it isn't that they don't like him, but he isn't far enough right of center for them. The Koch Brothers are ideological libertarians. President Trump is no ideologue--he looks for ways to get something done and doesn't measure that via libertarian principles. So yes, Trump is going to ruffle the Koch feathers now and then even though he does a lot they also support.

. . .(Charles) Koch, the chief executive of Koch Industries, is known along with his brothers Bill and David as a substantial source of funding for conservative candidates. Although Bill supported Trump in the previous election, Charles and Bill didn't. (I think they meant Charles and David here.)

• In the (Washington) Post, Koch approved of many of Trump's actions as president, including his "thoughtful approach to regulatory reform," and his appointing Justice Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
  
  "At the same time, I view some actions of this administration as counterproductive. These include broad travel bans, discouraging free trade and a tendency toward rhetoric that too easily divides Americans instead of uniting them.

• 
  Charles Koch: Trump's Policies Must Not Benefit Only Big Businesses Like Mine

 

[NoNukes]

The president of the United States is the most powerful person in the world. The president is the spokesman for democracy and liberty. Isn’t it time we brought back the pomp and circumstance and the sense of awe for that office that we all held? That means everyone in the administration should look and act professionally, especially the presidential. Impressions matter.”

I seldom, if ever, agree with the individual that allegedly wrote those words, but in this case they are spot on.

Have to disagree. The most powerful people in the world are the ones with the most money, not the POTUS.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Amazing how much Trumps own words repeatedly come back to haunt him...

The president of the United States is the most powerful person in the world. The president is the spokesman for democracy and liberty. Isn’t it time we brought back the pomp and circumstance and the sense of awe for that office that we all held? That means everyone in the administration should look and act professionally, especially the presidential. Impressions matter.”

First hit when searching quote= Anderson Cooper Uses Trump’s Own Words To Show How ‘Weak’ The President Is

Second hit when searching quote= Isn’t it time we brought back the pomp and circumstance and the sense of awe for that office

Coincidence? Hardly.

Bonus! Friday Talking Points -- 'You Crazy, Lunatic, 70-Year-Old Man-Baby' | HuffPost


^Posted before a thread on it is made here.

Here's a DJT quote for ya:

We must speak our minds openly, debate our disagreements honestly, but always pursue solidarity. -Donald Trump
Read more at: Donald Trump Quotes


By the way, the quote from the OP is NOT there.

 

[Wyatt earp]

No, it's not. You know who governs?

Governors.

They are all part of the government.

We have 50 States...you are starting to sound like pogo.

It the United States of America

Not the united state ...


We hate the elite fags of California / new York and the 47% trying to get free stuff.






.

Agreed it's the United States. However, when you say "We hate...." you're joining the "United State" mob.

Its us against freedom and the liberal elites and the poor who is to lazy to get a job ...

And rely on hand outs.

"Us" as in your "United State" or "us" as in "We, the People"?

You know it's not just the "liberal elites" that are a problem, right? It's the authoritarian elite which seeks to manipulate opinions for their own ends which are the true enemy of "We, the People".

Get out of here the elite Republicans like are trying to make a buck ..the elite leftys are trying to make America like Europe..


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[Foxfyre]

If Project Veritas was honest press, you'd have a point.

Every video they produce is heavily editorialized and edited, with one agenda- to gather evidence that supports their thesis, and disregard the rest.

The dishonest press is CNN, as Veritas proved. You just don't like that they exposed the party of Fuhrer Soros.

Just CNN? Doubtful. Yes, there's definitely bias, but "Project Veritas" is equally biased. They only attack those politically opposed to the far RW agenda. Where is their expose' on Fox? Russian Television? Breitbart? Infowars?

About | Project Veritas
Founded by James O’Keefe, the mission of Project Veritas is to:

Investigate and expose corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud, and other misconduct in both public and private institutions in order to achieve a more ethical and transparent society.

Project Veritas is the most effective non-profit on the national scene, period.

We’ve had dozens of successes, many of which are detailed on this site. The pattern is clear:

Project Veritas launches an investigation with the placement of our undercover journalists. The rollout of our findings creates a growing and uncontainable firestorm of press coverage. Corruption is exposed, leaders resign, and organizations are shut down.

We get immediate, measurable and impactful results, and our return on investment is unparalleled.

Project Veritas is a registered 501(c)3 organization. Project Veritas does not advocate specific resolutions to the issues that are raised through its investigations, nor do we encourage others to do so. Our goal is to inform the public of wrongdoing and allow the public to make judgments on the issues.

A noble goal that is belied by the fact that O'Keefe only targets those he opposes, not all "corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud, and other misconduct in both public and private institutions". Note his top stories and other "investigations": Project Veritas | Investigating and exposing corruption in both public and private institutions.

While I don't like the idea of billionaires like Soros manipulating the American public, I also don't like RW billionaires like the Koch brothers doing the same thing. Does anyone know where O'Keefe gets most of his funding? That can't be cheap.

At least the Koch Brothers emphasis is on public policies based on the principles of individual liberty, limited government, free markets, and peace. Their stated vision, as described in the CATO Institute charter is to create free, open, and civil societies founded on libertarian principles.

Soros' agenda is more socialism, more government control, along with a kind of soft Marxism shrouded in a 'one world government' concept.

President Trump's agenda is far more aligned with the Koch Brothers than it is with Soros.

Disagreed. None of those assholes are altruists. They're all just using populism to manipulate the American public for their own ends. O'Keefe's "Project Veritas" (Project Truth) is as honest and even handed as Orwell's "Ministry of Truth". Frankly, I'm sick of the increasingly strident partisan bullshit that has passed for US politics for the past three decades. I think many Americans have the same concerns as polls have consistently proved.

You're right. We are definitely disagreed that the Koch Brothers are assholes. They are good people using their considerable wealth for good as they see it. I may not agree on what they support, but I do not question their motives. Probably Soros is doing the same and the only reason I resist him is he would take away my liberties, choices, options, and opportunities while the Koch Brothers want to increase those for me and everybody else.

Yes many Americans have the same concerns but you would never know it from most of the MSM that devotes almost all of their time bolstering their ratings via Trump hate with little concern for how partisan and dishonest they are when they do it. And I directly blame them for a great deal of the hatred that has permeated the culture because most Americans take their cues from the MSM.

 

[sartre play]

Don't complain when the next President that you don't vote for is acting like a Fifth Grade bully. The precedent has been set.

Zero fucks given, indeed.

That's exactly what Obama did. Used the weight of the Fed government to ram through faggotry and Obamacare, despite what the states wanted.

The difference between Obama and Trump is that unlike Obama, whose promise was "the most transparent government", and then went directly against that; Trump promised good things for the people that are doable, and is working to make good on the promises.

Actually, healthcare was passed after negotiations and compromise from both parties. No bullying.

Now we have a President who calls names for no other reason but to soothe his own hurt feelings.

Utter fucking bullshit. Obama's fascist care was passed in the dead of the night with zero input and zero votes from the Republicans.

Yes, yes, I forgot. It was the blue dogs that were the stubborn ones.

There was "zero input" from the Repubs because their stated goal was to not cooperate with anything the President wanted. Remember, obstruction at all turns?

Except there wasn't zero input.

Republicans had several opportunities to introduce amendments to the Affordable Care Act, in both the Senate and House bills. Ultimately, for procedural reasons tied to the death of Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., the Senate version was the only one that moved forward. But Republicans offered changes in the committees that considered the bills before the whole chambers voted on them.

For example, 788 amendments were submitted during the ACA’s markup in the Senate Committee for Health, Education, Labor and Pensions committee (HELP). Three quarters of them were filed by the committee’s Republican members, according to John McDonough in his book Inside National Health Reform. Of those, 161 were adopted in whole or revised form.[...]

The Senate Finance Committee took up another version of the bill. Senators initially offered 564 amendments. During that markup, about six Republican amendments were adopted via roll call vote, and others were adopted by unanimous consent, without objection, and via voice vote, according to coverage by Congressional Quarterly. Parts of this bill merged with the bill the HELP committee marked up to become the final law.[...]

It’s worth noting that many facets of the Republican’s health care agenda at the time made it into the Affordable Care Act. The Affordable Care Act was a private market plan, and it dropped a long-held Democratic priority to include a public option.

Gutierrez says hundreds of Republican amendments in ACA

GREAT post actual information.

 

[sartre play]

Sorry, my reply was to seawytch, good informative post.

 

[OKTexas]

not going to argue but heck , look at you , new yorker' democrat , nothing American about that . And that being said , i sum things up neatly by saying , we will never work politely work together RChicky .

NY is an American state. Democrats belong to an American political party. I was born in America.

Sorry, pismoe. You don't get to define my nationality.

But just for fun, tell me how being a NY democrat makes me un-American.

If you are anti-Constitutional, you're un-American in my book.

But I'm not anti-Constitutional.

Do you think the Constitution grants us rights or that it limits government and we have all the rights naturally?

Do you support banning people from things for their own good such as 36 oz drinks, drugs and being able to commit suicide assisted or alone?

Do you support states rights or an all-powerful Federal government? Does the Federal government know best and should we turn in all or most of our money to it so they can decide on how it best be spent or should those decisions primarily be local?

We have natural rights. But the Constitution is a contract among the people. It can't grant rights, nor limit government, without the agreement of the American people. That's why the Constitution can be amended.

I support personal freedoms. I also support basic services that help all Americans become and stay productive citizens, like education and healthcare.

Neither of which are mentioned in the enumerated powers of the federal government. This is what James Madison, the father of the Constitution, said on the subject. My bold.

. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. -James Madison Federalist 45

So according to Madison the health, education and infrastructure within a State are States responsibilities. Now tell us again how your such a supporter of the Constitution.


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[Dim Bulb]

The president of the United States is the most powerful person in the world. The president is the spokesman for democracy and liberty. Isn’t it time we brought back the pomp and circumstance and the sense of awe for that office that we all held? That means everyone in the administration should look and act professionally, especially the presidential. Impressions matter.”

I seldom, if ever, agree with the individual that allegedly wrote those words, but in this case they are spot on.

Have to disagree. The most powerful people in the world are the ones with the most money, not the POTUS.

My working assumption has been that President Trump really only cares about making more money, which is what he will do during and after his presidency. I don't think he really cares too much about actual ideology. Money is what he appears to be after.