Islam isn't a threat....

[Roudy]

Haters gotta hate. The fear-driven reactionaries used to channel their innate hatred toward Communism. Today's target is no longer a political ideology but a faith. And that's more dire for our society. The haters want to paint one of this world's great faiths as inherently evil, just like the counterparts of the haters did inGermany circa 1939.

It is a political ideology.

It (Islam) is a religion. Some criminals use a veneer of Islam to perpetuate crimes against humanity. Some woefully ignorant, isolated and generally incurious people cannot make that clear distinction.

It might be considered a religion but I wouldn't say it is on equal footing as the other faiths today.

 

[Roudy]

Haters gotta hate. The fear-driven reactionaries used to channel their innate hatred toward Communism. Today's target is no longer a political ideology but a faith. And that's more dire for our society. The haters want to paint one of this world's great faiths as inherently evil, just like the counterparts of the haters did inGermany circa 1939.

It is a political ideology.

It (Islam) is a religion. Some criminals use a veneer of Islam to perpetuate crimes against humanity. Some woefully ignorant, isolated and generally incurious people cannot make that clear distinction.

No, it's an entire system where politics, law and religion are entwined. It's a whole ideological system, where religion is one aspect.

Today, Islam behaves like a violent, intolerant cult.

 

[Coyote]

Haters gotta hate. The fear-driven reactionaries used to channel their innate hatred toward Communism. Today's target is no longer a political ideology but a faith. And that's more dire for our society. The haters want to paint one of this world's great faiths as inherently evil, just like the counterparts of the haters did inGermany circa 1939.

It is a political ideology.

It (Islam) is a religion. Some criminals use a veneer of Islam to perpetuate crimes against humanity. Some woefully ignorant, isolated and generally incurious people cannot make that clear distinction.

No, it's an entire system where politics, law and religion are entwined. It's a whole ideological system, where religion is one aspect.

pffft. That's a modern and selective interpretation of Islam that only came about in the last decade.

 

[the_human_being]

Well, Japan seems to be smarter than most other nations are: Liberals Are Furious About This Tactic That Japan Is Using To Eliminate Radical Islam ⋆ US Herald

Japan doesn't have our constitution.

Our Constitution in no way forbids the government from protecting the citizens. That is the government's primary task.

 

[Nosmo King]

Haters gotta hate. The fear-driven reactionaries used to channel their innate hatred toward Communism. Today's target is no longer a political ideology but a faith. And that's more dire for our society. The haters want to paint one of this world's great faiths as inherently evil, just like the counterparts of the haters did inGermany circa 1939.

It is a political ideology.

It (Islam) is a religion. Some criminals use a veneer of Islam to perpetuate crimes against humanity. Some woefully ignorant, isolated and generally incurious people cannot make that clear distinction.

No, it's an entire system where politics, law and religion are entwined. It's a whole ideological system, where religion is one aspect.

If that conclusion was true, it would apply equally to all Muslims around the entire world. But it doesn't.

Another inept stab at understanding Islam. Or is it a clumsy attempt to rationalize Islam without enough information?

 

[dannyboys]

The black antipathy towards Jews comes from their strong connection to Islam.

After all, you guys are recruiting them in prison.

Their strong connection to Islam? You're joking right? Only about 1% of African-Americans are Muslim.

Blacks make up 20% of American muslims.

and...?

What do you mean "and"?

What's your point? Only 1% of African-Americans are Muslim, not to mention there is nothing in the OP about the attackers being Muslim and it isn't even clear if anti-semitism was part of it.

I think this thread's a bit of a stretch at best.

I wonder how many parents would want their daughter to marry a negro muslim? The same number as there are unicorns in Obama's Rose Garden. HAAAA HAAAAAA!

 

[Seawytch]

Well, Japan seems to be smarter than most other nations are: Liberals Are Furious About This Tactic That Japan Is Using To Eliminate Radical Islam ⋆ US Herald

Japan doesn't have our constitution.

Our Constitution in no way forbids the government from protecting the citizens. That is the government's primary task.

So you think the Constitution of the United States would allow this:


To start, Japan doesn’t allow the preaching of Islam for conversion. That means no proselytizing or engaging in any behavior that would appear to proselytize Islam.

Japan also limits the number of mosques that Muslims can erect and instructs Muslim men that they should pray at home.

You should try actually reading it if you believe that to be the case.

 

[Roudy]

Haters gotta hate. The fear-driven reactionaries used to channel their innate hatred toward Communism. Today's target is no longer a political ideology but a faith. And that's more dire for our society. The haters want to paint one of this world's great faiths as inherently evil, just like the counterparts of the haters did inGermany circa 1939.

It is a political ideology.

It (Islam) is a religion. Some criminals use a veneer of Islam to perpetuate crimes against humanity. Some woefully ignorant, isolated and generally incurious people cannot make that clear distinction.

No, it's an entire system where politics, law and religion are entwined. It's a whole ideological system, where religion is one aspect.

If that conclusion was true, it would apply equally to all Muslims around the entire world. But it doesn't.

Another inept stab at understanding Islam. Or is it a clumsy attempt to rationalize Islam without enough information?

You aren't going to understand Islam and its effects living here in the West 10,000 miles away from it. Nor are Muslims living as minorities a good representative of what they're like when they are the majority.

Why don't you ask a non Muslim who has lived among them, what the religion is all about, and whether it's tolerant and peaceful like they claim. Ask yourself, which Muslim nations are more tolerant towards minorities, those that are religious, or those that are ruled by secular rulers, even if they are brutal dictators.

 

[the_human_being]

Well, Japan seems to be smarter than most other nations are: Liberals Are Furious About This Tactic That Japan Is Using To Eliminate Radical Islam ⋆ US Herald

Japan doesn't have our constitution.

Our Constitution in no way forbids the government from protecting the citizens. That is the government's primary task.

So you think the Constitution of the United States would allow this:


To start, Japan doesn’t allow the preaching of Islam for conversion. That means no proselytizing or engaging in any behavior that would appear to proselytize Islam.

Japan also limits the number of mosques that Muslims can erect and instructs Muslim men that they should pray at home.

You should try actually reading it if you believe that to be the case.

Perhaps it is you who should read it. You are looking at it from a religious perspective. While the Constitution does prohibit the discrimination of religion, it does not prohibit the banning of people of other nations and nationalities from immigrating to this country. That has been upheld even by the Democrats under the Carter Administration.

 

[the_human_being]

 

[the_human_being]

 

[the_human_being]

Well, Japan seems to be smarter than most other nations are: Liberals Are Furious About This Tactic That Japan Is Using To Eliminate Radical Islam ⋆ US Herald

Japan doesn't have our constitution.

Our Constitution in no way forbids the government from protecting the citizens. That is the government's primary task.

So you think the Constitution of the United States would allow this:


To start, Japan doesn’t allow the preaching of Islam for conversion. That means no proselytizing or engaging in any behavior that would appear to proselytize Islam.

Japan also limits the number of mosques that Muslims can erect and instructs Muslim men that they should pray at home.

You should try actually reading it if you believe that to be the case.

Here's a good read for you: Can We Ban Islam? - Legal Guidelines for the Criminalization of Islam in the United States - Right Side News

 

[Tilly]

Haters gotta hate. The fear-driven reactionaries used to channel their innate hatred toward Communism. Today's target is no longer a political ideology but a faith. And that's more dire for our society. The haters want to paint one of this world's great faiths as inherently evil, just like the counterparts of the haters did inGermany circa 1939.

It is a political ideology.

It (Islam) is a religion. Some criminals use a veneer of Islam to perpetuate crimes against humanity. Some woefully ignorant, isolated and generally incurious people cannot make that clear distinction.

No, it's an entire system where politics, law and religion are entwined. It's a whole ideological system, where religion is one aspect.

pffft. That's a modern and selective interpretation of Islam that only came about in the last decade.

Silly woman. It has existed since Islams inception. Mohamed was not just a spiritual guide (lol), but a political leader, a military commander, and judge and jury too.

 

[Tilly]

Well, Japan seems to be smarter than most other nations are: Liberals Are Furious About This Tactic That Japan Is Using To Eliminate Radical Islam ⋆ US Herald

Japan doesn't have our constitution.

Our Constitution in no way forbids the government from protecting the citizens. That is the government's primary task.

So you think the Constitution of the United States would allow this:


To start, Japan doesn’t allow the preaching of Islam for conversion. That means no proselytizing or engaging in any behavior that would appear to proselytize Islam.

Japan also limits the number of mosques that Muslims can erect and instructs Muslim men that they should pray at home.

You should try actually reading it if you believe that to be the case.

Here's a good read for you: Can We Ban Islam? - Legal Guidelines for the Criminalization of Islam in the United States - Right Side News

Thank you, THB, an interesting read, good to see Islam recognised as the totalitarian political ideology that it is, and which is exactly as it started out with mo.

"Since Islam represents a totalitarian dictatorship, any organization or individual seeking to establish Islamic Law or Sharia within the United States, can be held liable and charged over its violation. This would apply to both Muslims and non-Muslims.

And the Koran or Quran itself represents a volume whose contents implicitly call for the violent overthrow of the United States.

Consider Chapter 9 of the Koran, which governs the interaction between Muslims and non-Muslims. Particularly Sura 9:29

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

There are numerous other verses in the Koran which similarly call for Muslims to subjugate non-Muslims and take power. This parallels the charge against the Communist party and places Muslims who believe in the Koran on the same level as Communists who believed in the overthrow of the United States.

Participation in any Muslim organization therefore becomes the equivalent of participating in a Communist organization– and can be banned."

 

[the_human_being]

Islamic Sex Traffickers in U.K. Protected by Liberals

 

[Coyote]

Haters gotta hate. The fear-driven reactionaries used to channel their innate hatred toward Communism. Today's target is no longer a political ideology but a faith. And that's more dire for our society. The haters want to paint one of this world's great faiths as inherently evil, just like the counterparts of the haters did inGermany circa 1939.

It is a political ideology.

It (Islam) is a religion. Some criminals use a veneer of Islam to perpetuate crimes against humanity. Some woefully ignorant, isolated and generally incurious people cannot make that clear distinction.

No, it's an entire system where politics, law and religion are entwined. It's a whole ideological system, where religion is one aspect.

pffft. That's a modern and selective interpretation of Islam that only came about in the last decade.

Silly woman. It has existed since Islams inception. Mohamed was not just a spiritual guide (lol), but a political leader, a military commander, and judge and jury too.

Silly boy. The "Islam as not a real religion but a political ideology" is a modern rightwing invention in an effort to delegitimize the faith of millions of people. Please - show me where they were referring to it as a "political ideology" prior to the past few decades?

 

[Roudy]

Well, Japan seems to be smarter than most other nations are: Liberals Are Furious About This Tactic That Japan Is Using To Eliminate Radical Islam ⋆ US Herald

Japan doesn't have our constitution.

Our Constitution in no way forbids the government from protecting the citizens. That is the government's primary task.

So you think the Constitution of the United States would allow this:


To start, Japan doesn’t allow the preaching of Islam for conversion. That means no proselytizing or engaging in any behavior that would appear to proselytize Islam.

Japan also limits the number of mosques that Muslims can erect and instructs Muslim men that they should pray at home.

You should try actually reading it if you believe that to be the case.

Here's a good read for you: Can We Ban Islam? - Legal Guidelines for the Criminalization of Islam in the United States - Right Side News

To ban Islam you have to remove its status as a religion, which is what the Italians have done.

Italy: Islam Not Recognized as a Religion — Denied Religious Tax Status

Italy has denied religious status to Islam. Politicians cited extremist (fundamentalist) imams, polygamy and failure to uphold women's
rights by Muslim immigrants as obstacles to recognizing Islam as an official
religion in Italy.

And here in the US we are paying for extremist imams (like Rauf) and their wives to go on Middle Eastern junkets to raise money for Islamic supremacist Ground Zero mosques. Sick.



Photo: Ground Zero mosque Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, of the Cordoba Initiative,
at the Fanar-Qatar Islamic Cultural Center's mosque in Qatar (August 27, 2010). This is the first leg of his US-funded tour to
Bahrain, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.

Rome, 27 August (AKI) – Mosques in Italy will not receive a share of income tax
revenue the Italian government allocates to religious faiths each year. Hindu
and Buddhist temples, Greek Orthodox churches and Jehovah's Witnesses will be
eligible for the funds, according to a bill approved by the Italian cabinet in
May and still must be approved by parliament.

Until now, the government
had earmarked 8 percent of income tax revenue for Italy's established churches.
The great majority of these funds go to the Catholic Church, although if they
wish, individual tax payers may elect to give the money to charities and
cultural projects instead.

The head of COREIS, one of Italy's largest
Muslim groups, Yahya Pallavicini, said he was bitter that Islam had been denied
the revenue from Italian income tax.

"Work should be begun on legally
recognising those moderate Muslims who have for years shown themselves to be
reliable interlocutors who are free of and fundamentalist ideology," he
said.

Islam is not an established religion in Italy and there is only one
official mosque in the country, Rome's Grand Mosque. Politicians from
the ruling coalition cite radical imams, polygamy and failure to uphold women's
rights by Muslims immigrants as obstacles to recognising Islam as an official
religion in Italy.

Until now, only the Catholic Church, Judaism and other
established churches including Lutherans, Evangelists, Waldensians and 7th-day
Adventists have received the income tax revenue from the Itallain
government.

 

[Tilly]

They object to their 7th C attitudes to women and so on. Good for them.

 

[Tilly]

A tiny bit reminiscent of the signs around Mecca
No-Islam signs raised in Italian village of Pontoglio urging Muslims to adapt or leave

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  By Umberto BacchiDecember 17, 2015 13:11 GMT
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The Italian town Pontoglio put up road signs urging non-Christian to adapt or leaveComune di Pontoglio
An Italian municipality has put up road signs urging those who do not respect its "Christian" values to leave, in a move that has sparked widespread criticism. The warnings appeared at access points to Pontoglio, a village of about 7,000 people near the northern city of Brescia, in compliance with a council decision backed by the centre-right mayor, Alessandro Seghezzi.

"Pontoglio, town of western culture and deep Christian tradition," the caption read. "People unwilling to respect local culture and tradition are invited to leave." Although not expressly stated, the messages were understood to be directed in particular at Muslims, with local residents reportedly dubbing them "no-Islam signs".

However the town administration denied the initiative was racist. Councillor Paolo Bocchi claimed the panels provided visitors with "cultural and historic information", Il Corriere della Sera reported. "Our culture is based on mutual respect. From women to music, art, habits and traditional rites," the council said in a bizarrely worded statement on social media.
No-Islam signs raised in Italian village of Pontoglio urging Muslims to adapt or leave

 

[Roudy]

A tiny bit reminiscent of the signs around Mecca
No-Islam signs raised in Italian village of Pontoglio urging Muslims to adapt or leave

• 
  
  By Umberto BacchiDecember 17, 2015 13:11 GMT
• 24

The Italian town Pontoglio put up road signs urging non-Christian to adapt or leaveComune di Pontoglio
An Italian municipality has put up road signs urging those who do not respect its "Christian" values to leave, in a move that has sparked widespread criticism. The warnings appeared at access points to Pontoglio, a village of about 7,000 people near the northern city of Brescia, in compliance with a council decision backed by the centre-right mayor, Alessandro Seghezzi.

"Pontoglio, town of western culture and deep Christian tradition," the caption read. "People unwilling to respect local culture and tradition are invited to leave." Although not expressly stated, the messages were understood to be directed in particular at Muslims, with local residents reportedly dubbing them "no-Islam signs".

However the town administration denied the initiative was racist. Councillor Paolo Bocchi claimed the panels provided visitors with "cultural and historic information", Il Corriere della Sera reported. "Our culture is based on mutual respect. From women to music, art, habits and traditional rites," the council said in a bizarrely worded statement on social media.
No-Islam signs raised in Italian village of Pontoglio urging Muslims to adapt or leave

Meanwhile the religion of peace and tolerance doesn't allow non Muslims to visit Mecca or Medina, even as tourists.