Once again you seem incapable of distinguishing the people who act, the people who think bad thoughts, and the people who simply look like the people you don't like. Again, American founding principles demonstrate justice on poor actions, not thought-policing skin color because we're prejudiced hicks.
Once again you have demonstrated you total inability to read my mind.
I have no idea what a Muslim looks like, because they come from all cultures and races. I do not judge people by their looks, unlike every progressive I have ever met, I judge people by their actions.
I do not have a problem with Muslims, I have a problem with Islam. You are the one that has trouble understanding the simplest concepts. Why do you have so much trouble separating the followers of a philosophy from the philosophy itself?
And why don't they count? Is this where you throw your hands up in the air and say "because I said so" or shove your fingers in your ears. I just gave you a passage from the bible which states entire cities should be burned to the ground, with all its people and animals killed, because non-believers worship other gods. Isn't that the very thing you said didn't exist in other religions? Maybe it doesn't count simply because you didn't know about it, whereby closing your eyes suddenly makes the rest of the world disappear.
Again, please try to show me a quote that does not count. All you are doing is proving how incompetent you are at understand both English, and my position.
Oh? Which geographical areas would those be? From where are you pulling this new biblical insight? Would you like more bible quotes that end in death to non-believers for random acts?
You point out the specific quote you are talking about, and I can answer your questions, Until then, I do not presume to be able to read minds, unlike you.
Oh but now you say they don't count because they weren't ever used? And you know this how? Blogging discovered from the third century? And somehow this invalidates the FACT that this religious document specifically states that non-believers should be killed. Now you claimed that only the Qu'ran states that, even though you have yet to show where. Do you plan on showing where the Qu'ran states that anytime?
I did not say they were never used, I stated that none of them were ever fully carried out. The commands were to cleanse certain cities so that the people there would not contaminate the nation and people of Israel. This was not a command to eliminate non believers, it was a command to eliminate certain false religions from the face of the Earth, one of them being the practice of sacrificing babies to the false gods and idols.
You certainly make an excellent point that certain religions are less involved with politics than others, Buddhism perhaps being the best example. But as long as there is structure within a religion,
there will be politics. Scientology is a poor example to use here. Google "scientology and politics" if you need convincing.
Where did I say they were not involved in politics?
I specifically mentioned Scientology because it does not believe in a theocratic power structure. The "god" of Scientology is not a being that demands worship and service, thus removing the theocratic power structure necessary to build a theocracy around. The church itself isn't even built around the concept of god, it is structured as a massive, international, corporate conglomerate.
I'm starting to feel like a broken record here, but what do you think the Crusades were? They interpreted the bible to justify a holy war, complete with pillaging and plundering for..... what again? Oh yeah, killing other religions, among other things. I suppose this is what you meant by "church hierarchies". How would that be different from Islamic hierarchies?
You sound like a broken record because you keep repeating arguments to prove that I am wrong about something that I am not trying to prove.
The Crusades were an attempt by the power structure of the Catholic Church to reassert its theocratic rule over the Holy Roman Empire. They were a response to the aggressive wars waged by Islam against anyone who would not convert.
Maybe if you actually studied history, instead of listening to all the people who think that Western culture and religion is always wrong you wouldn't sound so stupid to yourself. Just something for you to consider.
So once again another post from you comes without quotes form the Qu'ran pointing out this call to arms, claiming valid biblical quotes don't count yet providing no reason as to why, and absolutely no distinction between Islamic radicals and peaceful Muslims. You make some good points at times, but you have a knack for providing no supporting evidence whatsoever. Time to strengthen your beliefs with fact, and remove the "doesn't count" nonsense.
You want quotes from the Koran about calls to arms? I didn't know we were discussing the Koran specifically, I thought I was just showing your general ignorance about religion. If you want me to specifically prove you are ignorant about Islam itself you should have said so.
I am not going to attempt to cut and paste all of the calls to arms in the Koran, but you can certainly read them for yourself.
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