Slade3200
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- Jan 13, 2016
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I see a lot of hate flying Donnies way so I thought i'd open a discussion. Lets go with with the accusations that he is a racist bigot for proposing to ban all Muslims from coming to the USofA. I realize there are a slew of other things that he has done to earn him honorary labels of racists, sexist, and xenophob, but lets stick to the Muslim ban point for this discussion.
On one side I understand the inherent need, desire and responsibility for our citizens to feel safe in our homeland. The simple logic is that Isis is an Islamic extremist ideology and they have vowed to infiltrate our country and kill our citizens... So Trumps simple solution is to not allow any Muslims into the country until we figure out how to property screen them.
The counter argument... Much like the one used for anti-gun control is... there will never be a full proof way to screen or background check everybody to avoid incidents. So the full proof solution that Trump is waiting for is likely to never come. I'd like to take it a step further and ask those who support Trumps ban to explain the difference between his solution to a similar, smaller scale scenario....
Take a business owner who's storefront is on the outskirts of a violent community with a strong gang presence. Lets say that this business has been robbed and vandalized a few times and statistics can show that a local African American gang is responsible and targeting the business. Under Trumps logic, would this business owner have the right to ban all African Americans from entering his property? Expand the concept... Can business owners all across America expand this idea and ban all blacks from their doors? Take it out to public transportation centers, airlines, sporting events etc... You see my point.
Let the debate begin...
On one side I understand the inherent need, desire and responsibility for our citizens to feel safe in our homeland. The simple logic is that Isis is an Islamic extremist ideology and they have vowed to infiltrate our country and kill our citizens... So Trumps simple solution is to not allow any Muslims into the country until we figure out how to property screen them.
The counter argument... Much like the one used for anti-gun control is... there will never be a full proof way to screen or background check everybody to avoid incidents. So the full proof solution that Trump is waiting for is likely to never come. I'd like to take it a step further and ask those who support Trumps ban to explain the difference between his solution to a similar, smaller scale scenario....
Take a business owner who's storefront is on the outskirts of a violent community with a strong gang presence. Lets say that this business has been robbed and vandalized a few times and statistics can show that a local African American gang is responsible and targeting the business. Under Trumps logic, would this business owner have the right to ban all African Americans from entering his property? Expand the concept... Can business owners all across America expand this idea and ban all blacks from their doors? Take it out to public transportation centers, airlines, sporting events etc... You see my point.
Let the debate begin...