Is there any USMB member who believes all deported Tren de Aragua members be returned to the US?

[beagle9]

Like Biden and Obama did to literally hundreds of thousands? No judge. No hearing. Gone. Disappeared.

I remember when the Mexicans and Guatemalan's up and disappeared back during Obamas time in office, and many of those job voids were filled by a majority of American black folk's that began working the job's that politician's claimed Americans would just no longer do.

Interesting times when I literally seen this take place back then with my own two eyes.

I was a deliverer of construction site job materials on a flat bed truck to many jobsites back then, and I literally watched the transformation in real time take place. I witnessed a poultry plant go from an 85% Guatemalan workforce to probably an 85% American replacement workforce back then. Big changes happened quick, and it was odd because the leftist voter's didn't say chit about it when it happened, but ohhhhhhhhh Trump's destroying the world, he's destroying the world ya know.

Our government ought to be so ashamed of itself for thinking that the everyday average voter was just too stupid to ever figure it all out eventually (many knew it the whole time, but figured that it was just too entrenched to fight back until new representation came along).

The game's that were being played were devastating to the American labor forces that needed those job's at different levels on the workforce grid... It was all being done to benefit a wealthy donor class that had bought the politician's out just for greed reasoning or their lust for the dollar.

This is why a highly manipulated movement on the left has been activated against Trump, because "Trump" after being attacked so viciously (almost killed), had chosen to truly represent the people and their interest against the entrenched corruption that attempted to end his life because of it all before being elected again.

 

[sealybobo]

He cranked it up. You seriously don't remember "Deporter-In-Chief?"

“You’re acting like he’s father of the year,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters. Vice President JD Vance echoed her comments “He had committed some traffic violations. He had not shown up for some court dates,” Vance said. “This is not exactly father of the year here.”

Abrego Garcia was arrested at an Ikea parking lot in front of his 5-year-old son, his lawyers say — even though he was granted protection from deportation by a judge in 2019. On Friday, a federal judge ordered the U.S. to return the 29-year-old by 11:59 p.m. Monday.

“The American people should know who this individual is,” she said. “He’s not some Maryland father, he’s actually a member of MS-13.”

There is no evidence that Abrego Garcia is in a gang, his attorneys say.

allegations of gang affiliation need to come in “the form of an indictment, complaint, criminal processing … I haven’t yet heard any of that from the government.”

Jennifer Vasquez Sura, Abrego Garcia’s wife and a U.S. citizen, urged supporters to keep fighting for “all the Kilmars out there whose stories are waiting to be heard.”

 

[jknowgood]

All deportees deserve hearings with counsel present.

Will you keep them in your house till their trial?

 

[konradv]

Will you keep them in your house till their trial?

Are you MAGA all broken records with poor reading skills?!

 

[Seymour Flops]

Then why is he ignoring court orders?

Which court order did he ignore?

I believe that he and/or his people responded to them all.

I'm pretty sure, because I've been advocating for him to start ignoring these pipsqueaks with delusions of grandour, but he hasn't yet.

 

[Lesh]

Which court order did he ignore?

I believe that he and/or his people responded to them all.

I'm pretty sure, because I've been advocating for him to start ignoring these pipsqueaks with delusions of grandour, but he hasn't yet.

Are you really that uninformed?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Are you really that uninformed?

You were doing good making actual arguments for a while, Lesh. Now, you're acting just like the rest of the IMDB Democrats.

 

[MarathonMike]

No I don't believe all the gang members be returned to the US.

I also don't believe every person accused of being a gang member is a gang member. What about them?

​

Fair enough. If mistakes can be proven, then return that illegal to his/her country of origin and not the maximum security prison.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Fair enough. If mistakes can be proven, then return that illegal to his/her country of origin and not the maximum security prison.

Correct.

It's not true, but if it were true that that Kilmar guy is just an innocent father, then let El Salvadore know, and El Salvador can release him to be a good and hardworking El Salvadoran, as he was born to be.

It would make zero sense to bring him to the U.S. Does he even speak English?

 

[Rawley]

Make up your mind.

One day you claim we have open borders and the next you claim they deported too many people

One might think you were dishonest

One would be right

LOL lame, even for dishonest scud like you. I've never claimed they deported too many people. That's your cult.

Progress in that it seems you've stopped your denial of the fact that Obama and Biden deported hundreds of thousands of illegals without seeing a judge or having a hearing. The same due process that Trump is providing illegals.

 

[Lesh]

LOL lame, even for dishonest scud like you. I've never claimed they deported too many people. That's your cult.

Progress in that it seems you've stopped your denial of the fact that Obama and Biden deported hundreds of thousands of illegals without seeing a judge or having a hearing. The same due process that Trump is providing illegals.

How is deporting hundreds of thousand an open border?

 

[Lesh]

You were doing good making actual arguments for a while, Lesh. Now, you're acting just like the rest of the IMDB Democrats.

You aren’t aware that Trump is ignoring multiple court order jackass.

Read this

Has the Trump Admin Officially Defied Court Orders?

Read more here.

www.democracydocket.com

 

[Rawley]

“You’re acting like he’s father of the year,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters. Vice President JD Vance echoed her comments “He had committed some traffic violations. He had not shown up for some court dates,” Vance said. “This is not exactly father of the year here.”

Abrego Garcia was arrested at an Ikea parking lot in front of his 5-year-old son, his lawyers say — even though he was granted protection from deportation by a judge in 2019. On Friday, a federal judge ordered the U.S. to return the 29-year-old by 11:59 p.m. Monday.

“The American people should know who this individual is,” she said. “He’s not some Maryland father, he’s actually a member of MS-13.”

There is no evidence that Abrego Garcia is in a gang, his attorneys say.

allegations of gang affiliation need to come in “the form of an indictment, complaint, criminal processing … I haven’t yet heard any of that from the government.”

Jennifer Vasquez Sura, Abrego Garcia’s wife and a U.S. citizen, urged supporters to keep fighting for “all the Kilmars out there whose stories are waiting to be heard.”

Frankly. I couldn't give less of a rat's ass about this gangbanger.

 

[Lesh]

Frankly. I couldn't give less of a rat's ass about this gangbanger.

So the fact that he’s NOT a gangbanger doesn’t mean anything to you?

 

[Rawley]

How is deporting hundreds of thousand an open border?

easy When you let in 15 million. And you only start deportations when you are running for office and even the loon media is calling you out for being a lying sack of shit on your open borders.

You know that the demented fuckstick has been put out to pasture. He fucked over your cult but good on the way out. You don't have to defend his undefensible any more.

 

[Rawley]

So the fact that he’s NOT a gangbanger doesn’t mean anything to you?

The FACT is that he had a hearing. The judge explicitly ruled he's a gangbanger. He had an appeal and didn't even argue the judge was wrong.

And here we are again with the conundrum as to whether you are an ignorant stooge or a dishonest fuckstick. Good money is on dishonest fuckstick

 

[MarathonMike]

Correct.

It's not true, but if it were true that that Kilmar guy is just an innocent father, then let El Salvadore know, and El Salvador can release him to be a good and hardworking El Salvadoran, as he was born to be.

It would make zero sense to bring him to the U.S. Does he even speak English?

Based on the history of our pathetic media, I'm thinking there is more to the story than has been pushed by the Democrats are their propaganda machine.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You aren’t aware that Trump is ignoring multiple court order jackass.

Read this

Has the Trump Admin Officially Defied Court Orders?

Read more here.

www.democracydocket.com

lol!

This is what I love about arguing with Democrats on US MB. They provide links based on looking at the headlines and don’t read the accompanying articles. Nearly every time it turns out that the article proves them wrong if you read it far down far enough.

This is no exception. From your link:

According to a statement by White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt, the administration “did not ‘refuse to comply’ with a court order. The order, which had no lawful basis, was issued after terrorist TdA aliens had already been removed from U.S. territory. The written order and the Administration’s actions do not conflict.”

“A single judge in a single city cannot direct the movements of an aircraft carrier full of foreign alien terrorists who were physically expelled from U.S. soil,” Leavitt’s statement continued.

How is sending the White House press Secretary to talk to the media about the order “ignoring the order?”

Trump and his people did not ignore the order. They expressed outrage over it and explained why it was constitutionally impossible to follow as written.

I’m still at the lost to understand how Democrats get the idea that – when it comes to Trump only – federal District Court judges that nobody ever heard of have more power over foreign policy than the President of the United States.

Maybe you could connect the dots on that one?

Then maybe explain how judge Biasberg thought that merely by speaking, he could cause a plane full of foreign terrorists to turn around mid flight and head to the United States?

Then – for the love of God – explain why in the world Democrats want a plane load of terrorist to be flown into the United States?

 

[Lesh]

The FACT is that he had a hearing. The judge explicitly ruled he's a gangbanger. He had an appeal and didn't even argue the judge was wrong.

And here we are again with the conundrum as to whether you are an ignorant stooge or a dishonest fuckstick. Good money is on dishonest fuckstick

The judge ruled that he was NOT in a gang and should not be deported you lying shit

 

[MisterBeale]

All deportees deserve hearings with counsel present.

While I do agree with this, the previous administration made this goal impractical.


. . . if anyone crossed the border illegally, and if that is a documented fact, that is all there is to it at this point.