Is there any USMB member who believes all deported Tren de Aragua members be returned to the US?

DHS presented all of evidence to YOU?

Why?

Are you some important official?
Who did they present the evidence to...I mean besides the written statement that Garcia was deported by mistake
 
Who did they present the evidence to...I mean besides the written statement that Garcia was deported by mistake
For an expedited removal, who are they required to present evidence to?

Anyway, I'm glad you acknowledge that you were just making up the part about you knowing what the evidence is.
 
Then you’re either too lazy to read the thread responses or too stupid to understand what you read
You are shilling for drug smugglers, rapists and murderers
 
So your response so “I don’t know”
I know that they are not required to show the evidence to you or anyone else.

Look up the phrase "expedited removal," for all of the legal requirements.
 
You are shilling for drug smugglers, rapists and murderers
No. I’m standing up for the rule of law.

I’m opposed to sweeping up family men with no criminal records or real gang affiliation and shipping them off to horrific prisons on El Salvador
 
No. I’m standing up for the rule of law.

I’m opposed to sweeping up family men with no criminal records or real gang affiliation and shipping them off to horrific prisons on El Salvador
So, you want him freed from the El Salvador prison and given a plane ticket home?
 
No. I’m standing up for the rule of law.

I’m opposed to sweeping up family men with no criminal records or real gang affiliation and shipping them off to horrific prisons on El Salvador
That has not happened

But if it ever foes they will at least be here illegally and have chosen to toll the dice instead of self deporting
 
Hopefully so, but you know something scruffy, many Americans can't help but think that all gangs that engage in atrocious and/or heinous activities in America should also be treated in the same ways, otherwise regardless of where they are from when they commit atrocious acts or heinous crimes it is always the same negative results in the end.

Why the picking on gangs of any certain kind (otherwise), because don't they all at some point murder, rape, launder money, molest, kill cop's, and set cop's up etc ???

Why not make mention of all gangs who engage in gang activities and gang warfare in the same way or rather treat them equally in this country if they are doing the same vicious things etc ???

Does the law concerning gangs not somehow include other gang bangers or gangs that operate in the same dasterdly ways within this country, and therefore does the law not include them equally when they are American born gangs and/or gang member's doing the same things ?? Hopefully it does.

The tren-de-aragua gang exodus should not "exclude" or omit other violent gangs or vicious gang bangers in general, otherwise who should be given the same treatment. This is seen in the minds of most innocent American's that would probably share their opinions of what to do with all these gangs that kill, wreak havoc, and destroy the innocence in America, and it's all because these violent gangs do the very same things towards the innocent, so whats the difference in them all regardless of where they are from ?

We have homegrown gangs that are operating viciously in this country against the innocent just like any other gangs do, and there should be no exceptions to the rules when it comes to arresting them for the crimes that such gangs or gang bangers are committing equally in this country and/or elsewhere, and then them doing so all in the names of their gangs and their initiation requirements and/or because of their criminal activities.

For whatever reason that they give as an excuse for their gang banging, otherwise when they engage in certain heinous criminal activities as gang members do, most would say that there should be one set of rules that then ties the activities together in the same gang banging ways when it comes to equal justice, otherwise when arresting or prosecuting them when heinous acts or terrible crimes are involved.

The American gangs that are operating in this country in a very vicious manor, otherwise who have also killed, raped, and destroyed lives for example, well shouldn't it be that they are subjected to the same justice being given to gangs such as tren-de-aragura and this ms-13 gang that is under fire now, and shouldn't it also include the cartels operating inside this country just as well ????

Shouldn't it be that a complete swoop of gang activities are to be looked at in the same ways when gang member's are arrested for heinous crimes, and this regardless of their affiliations or gang memberships be it found in American gangs or other's that are involved in such activities ?

Maybe we need a specialized prison just for gang members here, otherwise just like what we are seeing with this prison operation to our south. No need of flying anyone anywhere then, otherwise we should have an impressive super max prison in the U.S. being run in the same way that the prison is being run down in Elsalvador. Why is it that we outsource everything in this country ???? Shouldn't the message be that "hey if you screw up bad here, then you get the same as you get down there" ???

Time to build a prison in Texas, and run it the same way as the one in Elsalvador. It will be for the gangs that commit vicious violent despicable acts that are a result of organized criminal activities that group themselves together under gang logo's for the purpose of such activities.

However, sending foreign gang member's out of this country is and always should be an appropriate response for the plight of those gang member's, but we should also crank down on American gang's that want to kill, destroy, and commit all sorts of anarchy in this country just as well. Criminal gangs grouping themselves together to engage in vicious evil things should not be tolerated in any civilized society. It's actually gone past that point already in many countries. The message should be that any group coming together as a gang to do evil despicable heinous acts will absolutely not be tolerated in civilized society. Clubs and groups are different titles altogether, otherwise if their message and activities are a positive thing in society. We've had club's and group's representing in good faith the positive values and traditions that we all can agree on in this country forever, and yes they should remain intact.
 
No. I’m standing up for the rule of law.

I’m opposed to sweeping up family men with no criminal records or real gang affiliation and shipping them off to horrific prisons on El Salvador
Family men ? NO criminal records ? How do you know this ??
 
Hopefully so, but you know something scruffy, many Americans can't help but think that all gangs that engage in atrocious and/or heinous activities in America should also be treated in the same ways, otherwise regardless of where they are from when they commit atrocious acts or heinous crimes it is always the same negative results in the end.

Why the picking on gangs of any certain kind (otherwise), because don't they all at some point murder, rape, launder money, molest, kill cop's, and set cop's up etc ???

Why not make mention of all gangs who engage in gang activities and gang warfare in the same way or rather treat them equally in this country if they are doing the same vicious things etc ???

Does the law concerning gangs not somehow include other gang bangers or gangs that operate in the same dasterdly ways within this country, and therefore does the law not include them equally when they are American born gangs and/or gang member's doing the same things ?? Hopefully it does.

The tren-de-aragua gang exodus should not "exclude" or omit other violent gangs or vicious gang bangers in general, otherwise who should be given the same treatment. This is seen in the minds of most innocent American's that would probably share their opinions of what to do with all these gangs that kill, wreak havoc, and destroy the innocence in America, and it's all because these violent gangs do the very same things towards the innocent, so whats the difference in them all regardless of where they are from ?

We have homegrown gangs that are operating viciously in this country against the innocent just like any other gangs do, and there should be no exceptions to the rules when it comes to arresting them for the crimes that such gangs or gang bangers are committing equally in this country and/or elsewhere, and then them doing so all in the names of their gangs and their initiation requirements and/or because of their criminal activities.

For whatever reason that they give as an excuse for their gang banging, otherwise when they engage in certain heinous criminal activities as gang members do, most would say that there should be one set of rules that then ties the activities together in the same gang banging ways when it comes to equal justice, otherwise when arresting or prosecuting them when heinous acts or terrible crimes are involved.

The American gangs that are operating in this country in a very vicious manor, otherwise who have also killed, raped, and destroyed lives for example, well shouldn't it be that they are subjected to the same justice being given to gangs such as tren-de-aragura and this ms-13 gang that is under fire now, and shouldn't it also include the cartels operating inside this country just as well ????

Shouldn't it be that a complete swoop of gang activities are to be looked at in the same ways when gang member's are arrested for heinous crimes, and this regardless of their affiliations or gang memberships be it found in American gangs or other's that are involved in such activities ?

Maybe we need a specialized prison just for gang members here, otherwise just like what we are seeing with this prison operation to our south. No need of flying anyone anywhere then, otherwise we should have an impressive super max prison in the U.S. being run in the same way that the prison is being run down in Elsalvador. Why is it that we outsource everything in this country ???? Shouldn't the message be that "hey if you screw up bad here, then you get the same as you get down there" ???

Time to build a prison in Texas, and run it the same way as the one in Elsalvador. It will be for the gangs that commit vicious violent despicable acts that are a result of organized criminal activities that group themselves together under gang logo's for the purpose of such activities.

However, sending foreign gang member's out of this country is and always should be an appropriate response for the plight of those gang member's, but we should also crank down on American gang's that want to kill, destroy, and commit all sorts of anarchy in this country just as well. Criminal gangs grouping themselves together to engage in vicious evil things should not be tolerated in any civilized society. It's actually gone past that point already in many countries. The message should be that any group coming together as a gang to do evil despicable heinous acts will absolutely not be tolerated in civilized society. Clubs and groups are different titles altogether, otherwise if their message and activities are a positive thing in society. We've had club's and group's representing in good faith the positive values and traditions that we all can agree on in this country forever, and yes they should remain intact.
You're not wrong. President Trump understands the power of messaging and his very public deportation of Tren de Aragua to the maximum security prison in El Salvador was about as powerful as it gets.
 
You're not wrong. President Trump understands the power of messaging and his very public deportation of Tren de Aragua to the maximum security prison in El Salvador was about as powerful as it gets.
Yes, and hopefully it's a message that includes all gang activity in the U.S. whether it is foreign or domestic.
 
Family men ? NO criminal records ? How do you know this ??

Deported soccer player wrongly accused of gang membership over tattoo, lawyer says​

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Deported soccer player wrongly accused of gang membership over tattoo, lawyer says

will that do?
 
He cranked it up. You seriously don't remember "Deporter-In-Chief?"

Trump Admin Argues Judge Can't Order Return Of Man Mistakenly Deported To El Salvador​

The man’s attorney said the government has done nothing to get his client back, even after admitting its errors.

A federal judge ordered the Trump administration to broker the return of a Maryland man who was mistakenly deported from the U.S. to a notorious El Salvador prison, government attorneys argued Saturday as they urged an appeals court to suspend the ruling.

His mistaken deportation, described by the White House as an “administrative error,” has outraged many and raised concerns about expelling noncitizens who were granted permission to be in the U.S.

Abrego Garcia, whose wife, a U.S. citizen, was in attendance.

Imagine doing this to Melania.
 

Trump Admin Argues Judge Can't Order Return Of Man Mistakenly Deported To El Salvador​

The man’s attorney said the government has done nothing to get his client back, even after admitting its errors.

A federal judge ordered the Trump administration to broker the return of a Maryland man who was mistakenly deported from the U.S. to a notorious El Salvador prison, government attorneys argued Saturday as they urged an appeals court to suspend the ruling.

His mistaken deportation, described by the White House as an “administrative error,” has outraged many and raised concerns about expelling noncitizens who were granted permission to be in the U.S.

Abrego Garcia, whose wife, a U.S. citizen, was in attendance.

Imagine doing this to Melania.
Melania is an American citizen and not part of MS 13
 
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