Is there a "right" to be homeless and live on the sidewalk?

[EvilCat Breath]

I thought we were talking about why they are homeless,,

unless youve talked to every single one you couldnt know why all of them are homeless,,

I don't care why they are homeless. I care that they shit in my walkway. If I want to see porn I'll pay for it. I don't want them badgering me for money. I don't want them dripping their infected drug lesions all over the park. I don't want their needles, bloody bandages, or ass wipe in the park where I walk my dog.

 

[progressive hunter]

I don't care why they are homeless. I care that they shit in my walkway. If I want to see porn I'll pay for it. I don't want them badgering me for money. I don't want them dripping their infected drug lesions all over the park. I don't want their needles, bloody bandages, or ass wipe in the park where I walk my dog.

not all homeless people are shitting and fucking on your walkway,, I would say very few of them would be inclined to do such a thing,,

 

[Crepitus]

your premise is a lie,,

try speaking on the topic instead of the pro life stuff,,

over running public areas with tents and everything that goes with it isnt a right,,

How can a question be a lie?

 

[Crepitus]

Will they die unless they can shit and fuck in public?

Do they or don't they?

 

[progressive hunter]

How can a question be a lie?

you are a perfect example of that,,

 

[fncceo]

we are talking about possibly over a million people with a million different reasons,

Overwhelmingly substance abuser with associated mental health issues ...

... those people who were previously dealt with as involuntary committed patients.

 

[fncceo]

Do you have a right to life?

Odd you should argue in favor of a right to life.

Are you sure you want to pull on that thread?

 

[mudwhistle]

I'm not talking about whether it's good or bad for people to live like that, or what can be done about it. Well, not as the main point, anyway.

Is there a right to use public tax-funded sidewalks as a campground, no matter how dirty, unsightly, and dangerous the "camping equipment" may be? I'm talking about a person pushing a grocery cart full of dirty and often wet belongings, or carrying a trashbag full of stuff and stopping to rest whenevery they get tired, meanwhile often asking passers-by for money, or otherwise engaging them.

Would any sane and non-addicted person choose to live like that? If there is no way for a peson to exercise a choice, can they really be said to have a "right to choose?"

A humane society's solution for these obviously mentally ill, and/or addicted people is to take them off the sidewalks and bring them to where they can get help. If they refuse the help, I can see a libertarian case for not forcing them. But why bring them back to dangerous city streets that they will both make more dangerous and be endangered on? Take them to the woods near a water source and drop them off.

Homelessness was pretty common in CA when I was there in the 70-80s.

We started getting a bunch of them a few years ago, but they made it illegal for them to panhandle and camp out here in Clarksville, and now they're all gone. Must have moved up to Nashville.

 

[cnm]

Is there a "right" to be homeless and live on the sidewalk?​

The pursuit of happiness is an unalienable right, Shirley?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The pursuit of happiness is an unalienable right, Shirley?

Suppose your only happiness is rapeing and killing infants. Not so inalienable is it? The right to pursue happiness was going to be Jeffrey Dahmer's defense but his lawyer wouldn't go along with it.

 

[progressive hunter]

The pursuit of happiness is an unalienable right, Shirley?

as long as it doesnt violate someone elses rights

 

[cnm]

Suppose your only happiness is rapeing and killing infants. Not so inalienable is it?

So you disagree with the Declaration of Independence?

 

[cnm]

as long as it doesnt violate someone elses rights

Ah. So the right to pursue happiness is alienable.

TIL

 

[progressive hunter]

Where is that written in the DoI?

its in the bill of rights,,

 

[EvilCat Breath]

So you disagree with the Declaration of Independence?

The Constitution was written for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to govern any other.
John Adams

That you believe the right to pursue happiness is so absolute that it includes the right to rape and kill infants says there is a serious interpretation of the Declaration of Independence. You are not alone. There was a recent series of rapes committed by a Congolese illegal immigrant. His defense is, he had no girlfriend. Sex was pursuing happiness so he was acting lawfully. Do you agree? You should.

 

[cnm]

its in the bill of rights,,

So what happened to unalienable rights?

 

[progressive hunter]

So what happened to unalienable rights?

for who??

if you think you have a right to rape or steal from me, what happened to my rights??

you have a right to swing your fist,, just not to let it hit my face,,

 

[cnm]

The Constitution was written for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to govern any other.
John Adams

So it's an antiquated, dysfunctional document, twisting itself into pretzels to ignore slavery except to assert the rights of moral and religious owners of chattels?

I agree.

 

[cnm]

for who??

White male property owners.

 

[progressive hunter]

White male property owners.

not sure what youre talking about,,