Is The Tea Party Really, Really Racist?

[PoliticalChic]

I don't think the "Tea Party" as a whole is racist. I"m sure like with every walk of life there are a few members that are. Racism exist on all sides and against all races.

There's an awesome new book that address this kind of stuff:

I'm new to US message board so I can't post the link..

The book is I'm offended: political correctness to Christian perspective

Chapter 2 is about race

Welcome.

I found his mention of the book at Sodahead...but nothing at Amazon.

I'M SICK OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS ABOUT OUR CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY CHRISTMAS,CHRISTMAS DISPLAYS OFFENDING NON-CHRISTIANS.HOW SAY YOU!????? - Page 5


It is my belief that it is almost always a mistake to put power in the hands of anyone who claims to be offended about anything.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Is The Tea Party Really, Really Racist?

The tea party itself?

No.

Many of its adherents?

Definitely.

How many of the Tea Party associations have you visited, Techy?
Any?
Or are you evincing the kind of prejudice and bigotry that you'd rail against if it were directed elsewhere...

 

[Bfgrn]

So, when there IS A STIMULUS...racist and xenophobic rants to cheering tea party conventioneers, the charge of racist and xenophobe FITS.

If you can be well without health, you may be happy without virtue.
Edmund Burke

But every time I see a liberal acuse a Tea Partier of racism, it is far more likely than not either 1) some libtard poser, 2) a misquote, 3) no supporting evidence, 4) or the statement was not racist at all but violated the libtard mantra for racism in a way that no other sane person would call it racism.

But lets hear it, what did Tancredo supposedly say that was racist?

Tom Tancredo's Tea Party speech called "racially incendiary"

Former Congressman Tom Tancredo made sure the National Tea Party Convention didn't have a sleepy opening night. His speech Thursday is drawing considerable notice for its racial nature.

Here's the online headline of the New York Daily News' account: Tea Party convention's racial brouhaha: Obama won because Jim Crow-era law not on books -- Tancredo

And here's the first paragraph of the Daily News' story:

The opening speaker at the first National Tea Party Convention called President Obama a "committed Socialist ideologue" who was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote."

And later in that story:

"People who could not even spell the word 'vote' or say it in English put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House," he said.

Tancredo, a failed 2008 presidential candidate, made his reputation as a rabid foe of illegal immigrants. The literacy tests he pined for were once used in the South to keep blacks from voting.


Read more: Tom Tancredo's Tea Party speech called "racially incendiary"


Prejudice and principle brew at tea party meet

600 delegates from all over the US descended on the cavernous Gaylord hotel to plot strategy as opening speech harks back to America's segregationist past

America's disparate army of angry *conservatives assembled under one roof yesterday at the first national tea party convention in Nashville, amid controversy over an opening speech which preached bigotry bordering on racism.

In his most incendiary comment, he invoked the segregationist methods of the southern states, saying that Obama had been elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country". Southern segregationist states used to prevent black people having the vote by setting them restrictively difficult qualification tests, a historical allusion lost on few of the delegates present.

Tancredo went on to call on delegates to launch a "counter-revolution" that would "pass on our culture based on Judeo-Christian principles. Whether people like it or not, that's who we are."

That remark received a standing ovation from the audience.

Prejudice and principle brew at tea party meet | World news | The Guardian


Meghan McCain Blasts Tea Party Movement

McCain, the daughter of Sen. John McCain known for occasionally parting ways with the views of her Republican dad, was particularly scathing in her assessment of Tancredo's speech on the opening day of the National Tea Party Convention on Thursday in Nashville. In the speech, Tancredo said people "who could not spell the word vote or say it in English" elected a "committed socialist ideologue" because the country does not require a "civics literacy test."

"It's innate racism, and I think it's why young people are turned off by this movement," McCain said. "And I'm sorry -- revolutions start with young people, not with 65-year-old people talking about literacy tests and people who can't say the word vote in English."

Though speakers at the convention repeatedly rejected the "racist" label during the three-day event and held sessions on ways to attract young activists to their cause, McCain pointed to Tancredo's speech as a sign of what's wrong with the Tea Party movement.

Read more: Meghan McCain Blasts Tea Party Movement, Palin On 'The View' | Fox News

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM-cEtUfJhI]Ex-Congressman Tom Tancredo Racist Speech At Tea Party - YouTube[/ame]

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

The FACT that the TP launched their first ever national convention with an opening racist, xenophobic speech calling for Jim Crow era sanctions to wildly cheering tea partiers was just misunderstood?

“If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.”
Douglas Adams

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u27YopczkF4]Tom Tancredo opens up Tea Party event (Racist?) Literacy Test For Voters (LotsOfSecrets.com) - YouTube[/ame]



Context is everything...........

EDIT: Oh you posted it

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Is The Tea Party Really, Really Racist?

The tea party itself?

No.

Many of its adherents?

Definitely.

Many democrats are racist too....racism knows no political boundries nor race, gender, or age boundries.

Your post is pointless.

 

[Bfgrn]

The FACT that the TP launched their first ever national convention with an opening racist, xenophobic speech calling for Jim Crow era sanctions to wildly cheering tea partiers was just misunderstood?

“If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.”
Douglas Adams

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u27YopczkF4]Tom Tancredo opens up Tea Party event (Racist?) Literacy Test For Voters (LotsOfSecrets.com) - YouTube[/ame]



Context is everything...........

EDIT: Oh you posted it

I have listened to the whole speech. Context doesn't alter Tancredo's innate racism, xenophobia, and reference to reinstating Jim Crow laws.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

The FACT that the TP launched their first ever national convention with an opening racist, xenophobic speech calling for Jim Crow era sanctions to wildly cheering tea partiers was just misunderstood?

“If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.”
Douglas Adams

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u27YopczkF4]Tom Tancredo opens up Tea Party event (Racist?) Literacy Test For Voters (LotsOfSecrets.com) - YouTube[/ame]



Context is everything...........

EDIT: Oh you posted it

I have listened to the whole speech. Context doesn't alter Tancredo's innate racism, xenophobia, and reference to reinstating Jim Crow laws.

whoa i missed him asking to reinstate jim crow......what minute/second in the video was that starting at?

 

[faith34]

the website is imoffendedbook.com

That's the author's point. Is that we all need to stop being offended about everything and respect each others right to opinion.

 

[Bfgrn]

Tom Tancredo opens up Tea Party event (Racist?) Literacy Test For Voters (LotsOfSecrets.com) - YouTube



Context is everything...........

EDIT: Oh you posted it

I have listened to the whole speech. Context doesn't alter Tancredo's innate racism, xenophobia, and reference to reinstating Jim Crow laws.

whoa i missed him asking to reinstate jim crow......what minute/second in the video was that starting at?

I guess you don't know history and the code words...

Tom Tancredo Wants to Bring Back Jim Crow Laws

After the passage of 46 years there is now a small movement to bring back Jim Crow Laws. Former Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) believes this is a good idea, and is now actively promoting the concept. Jim Crow Laws were literacy tests adopted by Southern states after blacks were granted citizenship rights under the 15th Amendment.

Potential black registrants had to answer difficult questions and were also confronted with a poll tax. Both practices were banned by the Voting Rights Act of 1964, and African American turnout increased by a huge percentage after the restrictions were lifted.

Tancredo does not use the phrase Jim Crow Laws, but instead talks of a literacy and civics test requirement for voters. This was part of Tancredo’s platform when he sought the 2008 GOP presidential nomination, and says “This is our country. Let’s take it back. . . The race for America is on right now.”

Tancredo spoke about the tests at last week’s First National Tea Party Convention and is actively lobbying for the proposal in the Colorado legislature. He received enthusiastic applause in saying, “If you can’t answer the same questions an immigrant has to answer in order to become a citizen, what the hell right do you have to vote? . . . People who could not even spell the word ‘vote’ or say it in English put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House. His name is Barack Hussein Obama.”

According to Tancredo, the President was elected “mostly because I think that we do not have a civics literacy test before people can vote in this country.” He outlined the proposal in a letter to Colorado House Speaker Terrance Carroll (D-Denver), “To suggest that any civics literacy test will necessarily be discriminatory is absurd on its face. Ignorance comes in all sizes, colors and flavors.”

The former Congressman included “a list of 100 sample civics questions used by the federal government for the naturalization civics test,” and suggested they might provide the basis for his proposed exam. Carroll is the first black Speaker in Colorado history and said Tancredo should know “how hateful those tests were and how hateful that period of history was.” The former Congressman responded by saying “the left has an obsession with race”, and says his call for a test is to obtain participation only from voters who understand the government.

An increased focus on the study of history and government in our schools is a wonderful idea. I have cringed in watching Jay Leno ask very simple questions to people on the street and receive moronic answers. I also wish all of our voters had the ability to read, but I would be surprised if any lawmaker endorsed the return of Jim Crow Laws. The call for new literacy and civics tests at the ballot box smacks of racism and bigotry.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

I have listened to the whole speech. Context doesn't alter Tancredo's innate racism, xenophobia, and reference to reinstating Jim Crow laws.

whoa i missed him asking to reinstate jim crow......what minute/second in the video was that starting at?

I guess you don't know history and the code words...

Tom Tancredo Wants to Bring Back Jim Crow Laws

After the passage of 46 years there is now a small movement to bring back Jim Crow Laws. Former Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) believes this is a good idea, and is now actively promoting the concept. Jim Crow Laws were literacy tests adopted by Southern states after blacks were granted citizenship rights under the 15th Amendment.

Potential black registrants had to answer difficult questions and were also confronted with a poll tax. Both practices were banned by the Voting Rights Act of 1964, and African American turnout increased by a huge percentage after the restrictions were lifted.

Tancredo does not use the phrase Jim Crow Laws, but instead talks of a literacy and civics test requirement for voters. This was part of Tancredo’s platform when he sought the 2008 GOP presidential nomination, and says “This is our country. Let’s take it back. . . The race for America is on right now.”

Tancredo spoke about the tests at last week’s First National Tea Party Convention and is actively lobbying for the proposal in the Colorado legislature. He received enthusiastic applause in saying, “If you can’t answer the same questions an immigrant has to answer in order to become a citizen, what the hell right do you have to vote? . . . People who could not even spell the word ‘vote’ or say it in English put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House. His name is Barack Hussein Obama.”

According to Tancredo, the President was elected “mostly because I think that we do not have a civics literacy test before people can vote in this country.” He outlined the proposal in a letter to Colorado House Speaker Terrance Carroll (D-Denver), “To suggest that any civics literacy test will necessarily be discriminatory is absurd on its face. Ignorance comes in all sizes, colors and flavors.”

The former Congressman included “a list of 100 sample civics questions used by the federal government for the naturalization civics test,” and suggested they might provide the basis for his proposed exam. Carroll is the first black Speaker in Colorado history and said Tancredo should know “how hateful those tests were and how hateful that period of history was.” The former Congressman responded by saying “the left has an obsession with race”, and says his call for a test is to obtain participation only from voters who understand the government.

An increased focus on the study of history and government in our schools is a wonderful idea. I have cringed in watching Jay Leno ask very simple questions to people on the street and receive moronic answers. I also wish all of our voters had the ability to read, but I would be surprised if any lawmaker endorsed the return of Jim Crow Laws. The call for new literacy and civics tests at the ballot box smacks of racism and bigotry.

Wow all I asked for was the point in the video where he said he wanted jim crow reinstated....its obvious from your giant response that he didn't call for that in particular and that you are twisting what he said to make it fit Jim Crow.

 

[Tank]

To many blacks would change the Tea party ,to the weed party

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

To many blacks would change the Tea party ,to the weed party

Why do you post this type of drivel in a thread like this?


you sound like this racist white woman in this video to me

 

[Article 15]

The Tea Party is about as racist as the OWS is communist.

 

[Bfgrn]

whoa i missed him asking to reinstate jim crow......what minute/second in the video was that starting at?

I guess you don't know history and the code words...

Tom Tancredo Wants to Bring Back Jim Crow Laws

After the passage of 46 years there is now a small movement to bring back Jim Crow Laws. Former Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) believes this is a good idea, and is now actively promoting the concept. Jim Crow Laws were literacy tests adopted by Southern states after blacks were granted citizenship rights under the 15th Amendment.

Potential black registrants had to answer difficult questions and were also confronted with a poll tax. Both practices were banned by the Voting Rights Act of 1964, and African American turnout increased by a huge percentage after the restrictions were lifted.

Tancredo does not use the phrase Jim Crow Laws, but instead talks of a literacy and civics test requirement for voters. This was part of Tancredo’s platform when he sought the 2008 GOP presidential nomination, and says “This is our country. Let’s take it back. . . The race for America is on right now.”

Tancredo spoke about the tests at last week’s First National Tea Party Convention and is actively lobbying for the proposal in the Colorado legislature. He received enthusiastic applause in saying, “If you can’t answer the same questions an immigrant has to answer in order to become a citizen, what the hell right do you have to vote? . . . People who could not even spell the word ‘vote’ or say it in English put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House. His name is Barack Hussein Obama.”

According to Tancredo, the President was elected “mostly because I think that we do not have a civics literacy test before people can vote in this country.” He outlined the proposal in a letter to Colorado House Speaker Terrance Carroll (D-Denver), “To suggest that any civics literacy test will necessarily be discriminatory is absurd on its face. Ignorance comes in all sizes, colors and flavors.”

The former Congressman included “a list of 100 sample civics questions used by the federal government for the naturalization civics test,” and suggested they might provide the basis for his proposed exam. Carroll is the first black Speaker in Colorado history and said Tancredo should know “how hateful those tests were and how hateful that period of history was.” The former Congressman responded by saying “the left has an obsession with race”, and says his call for a test is to obtain participation only from voters who understand the government.

An increased focus on the study of history and government in our schools is a wonderful idea. I have cringed in watching Jay Leno ask very simple questions to people on the street and receive moronic answers. I also wish all of our voters had the ability to read, but I would be surprised if any lawmaker endorsed the return of Jim Crow Laws. The call for new literacy and civics tests at the ballot box smacks of racism and bigotry.

Wow all I asked for was the point in the video where he said he wanted jim crow reinstated....its obvious from your giant response that he didn't call for that in particular and that you are twisting what he said to make it fit Jim Crow.

"Jim Crow" is a generic description. Segregation and disenfranchisement laws were known as "Jim Crow"

Blacks were systematically denied the right to vote in most of the rural South through the selective application of literacy tests and other racially motivated criteria.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

I guess you don't know history and the code words...

Tom Tancredo Wants to Bring Back Jim Crow Laws

After the passage of 46 years there is now a small movement to bring back Jim Crow Laws. Former Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) believes this is a good idea, and is now actively promoting the concept. Jim Crow Laws were literacy tests adopted by Southern states after blacks were granted citizenship rights under the 15th Amendment.

Potential black registrants had to answer difficult questions and were also confronted with a poll tax. Both practices were banned by the Voting Rights Act of 1964, and African American turnout increased by a huge percentage after the restrictions were lifted.

Tancredo does not use the phrase Jim Crow Laws, but instead talks of a literacy and civics test requirement for voters. This was part of Tancredo’s platform when he sought the 2008 GOP presidential nomination, and says “This is our country. Let’s take it back. . . The race for America is on right now.”

Tancredo spoke about the tests at last week’s First National Tea Party Convention and is actively lobbying for the proposal in the Colorado legislature. He received enthusiastic applause in saying, “If you can’t answer the same questions an immigrant has to answer in order to become a citizen, what the hell right do you have to vote? . . . People who could not even spell the word ‘vote’ or say it in English put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House. His name is Barack Hussein Obama.”

According to Tancredo, the President was elected “mostly because I think that we do not have a civics literacy test before people can vote in this country.” He outlined the proposal in a letter to Colorado House Speaker Terrance Carroll (D-Denver), “To suggest that any civics literacy test will necessarily be discriminatory is absurd on its face. Ignorance comes in all sizes, colors and flavors.”

The former Congressman included “a list of 100 sample civics questions used by the federal government for the naturalization civics test,” and suggested they might provide the basis for his proposed exam. Carroll is the first black Speaker in Colorado history and said Tancredo should know “how hateful those tests were and how hateful that period of history was.” The former Congressman responded by saying “the left has an obsession with race”, and says his call for a test is to obtain participation only from voters who understand the government.

An increased focus on the study of history and government in our schools is a wonderful idea. I have cringed in watching Jay Leno ask very simple questions to people on the street and receive moronic answers. I also wish all of our voters had the ability to read, but I would be surprised if any lawmaker endorsed the return of Jim Crow Laws. The call for new literacy and civics tests at the ballot box smacks of racism and bigotry.

Wow all I asked for was the point in the video where he said he wanted jim crow reinstated....its obvious from your giant response that he didn't call for that in particular and that you are twisting what he said to make it fit Jim Crow.

"Jim Crow" is a generic description. Segregation and disenfranchisement laws were known as "Jim Crow"

Blacks were systematically denied the right to vote in most of the rural South through the selective application of literacy tests and other racially motivated criteria.

This is 2011, a general civics knowledge test is not akin to jim crow.

If the country was still like it was back when Jim Crow was around Barack Obama would never even have been a senator, never mind president.

You made a big stretch calling it Jim Crow.

 

[Bfgrn]

Wow all I asked for was the point in the video where he said he wanted jim crow reinstated....its obvious from your giant response that he didn't call for that in particular and that you are twisting what he said to make it fit Jim Crow.

"Jim Crow" is a generic description. Segregation and disenfranchisement laws were known as "Jim Crow"

Blacks were systematically denied the right to vote in most of the rural South through the selective application of literacy tests and other racially motivated criteria.

This is 2011, a general civics knowledge test is not akin to jim crow.

If the country was still like it was back when Jim Crow was around Barack Obama would never even have been a senator, never mind president.

You made a big stretch calling it Jim Crow.

You are either being dishonest or you are ignorant...which one is it?

A literacy test was a method that was used during the Jim Crow era to deny people their voting RIGHTS...I guess words like 'rights' only apply when YOUR rights are threatened. When it applies to 'others', you have no problem making it a right for you and a 'privilege' for them?

BTW, you 'less government' folks NEVER seem to have any problem with MORE government in other people's lives, DO YOU?

Q. WHO is going to author these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to administer these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to grade these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to decide who passes these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to PAY for these literacy tests?
A. YOU, me and taxpayers...

You just FAILED the less government test...

 

[mudwhistle]

The reason Herman Cain pisses off so many Democrats is because he hasn't learned his proper place.

The Democratic Party used to be the home of the KKK. Now it's the home of the New Black Panther Party and the Nation of Islam. Two very racist groups.

Oh Btw.......

The Tea Party believes in Dirty Air, Dirty Water, child porn, violence against various fungi and multi-cellular creatures. We think the world is only 4000 years old and that science is just another form of witchcraft........according to liberals.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

The Tea Party is about as racist as the OWS is communist.

I don't know about that

The tea partiers would rally against slavery, don't want the govt to make decisions based on race, and judge people on their character not their skin color (hence their support of Herman Cain)

On the other hand the OWS people would be ok with the government redistributing wealth from the rich/corporatoins/wall-street to those with less money.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

"Jim Crow" is a generic description. Segregation and disenfranchisement laws were known as "Jim Crow"

Blacks were systematically denied the right to vote in most of the rural South through the selective application of literacy tests and other racially motivated criteria.

This is 2011, a general civics knowledge test is not akin to jim crow.

If the country was still like it was back when Jim Crow was around Barack Obama would never even have been a senator, never mind president.

You made a big stretch calling it Jim Crow.

You are either being dishonest or you are ignorant...which one is it?

A literacy test was a method that was used during the Jim Crow era to deny people their voting RIGHTS...I guess words like 'rights' only apply when YOUR rights are threatened. When it applies to 'others', you have no problem making it a right for you and a 'privilege' for them?

BTW, you 'less government' folks NEVER seem to have any problem with MORE government in other people's lives, DO YOU?

Q. WHO is going to author these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to administer these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to grade these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to decide who passes these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to PAY for these literacy tests?
A. YOU, me and taxpayers...

You just FAILED the less government test...

Its not a literacy test.....it was a civics test just like for immigrants when they first come here to make sure they have a basic understanding of the system.

Now all this being said I'm not for that idea but just because I don't support his idea/statments on said idea doesn't mean i'll sit here and let you be dishonest about what he said.

 

[Bfgrn]

This is 2011, a general civics knowledge test is not akin to jim crow.

If the country was still like it was back when Jim Crow was around Barack Obama would never even have been a senator, never mind president.

You made a big stretch calling it Jim Crow.

You are either being dishonest or you are ignorant...which one is it?

A literacy test was a method that was used during the Jim Crow era to deny people their voting RIGHTS...I guess words like 'rights' only apply when YOUR rights are threatened. When it applies to 'others', you have no problem making it a right for you and a 'privilege' for them?

BTW, you 'less government' folks NEVER seem to have any problem with MORE government in other people's lives, DO YOU?

Q. WHO is going to author these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to administer these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to grade these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to decide who passes these literacy tests?
A. GOVERNMENT

Q. WHO is going to PAY for these literacy tests?
A. YOU, me and taxpayers...

You just FAILED the less government test...

Its not a literacy test.....it was a civics test just like for immigrants when they first come here to make sure they have a basic understanding of the system.

Now all this being said I'm not for that idea but just because I don't support his idea/statments on said idea doesn't mean i'll sit here and let you be dishonest about what he said.

The only one being dishonest is YOU. That was not the only thing he said that smells of racism and xenophobia. Tom Tancredo has a reputation that preceded him. The tea party had to know what they would get when they invited him to speak, and be the first ever speaker at their first ever national convention.

Stop being so obtuse.