CDZ Is the Climate changing?

[otto105]

Yeah, it's called temperature and recording it's increase. It's recording the increase in CO2....


The heartland institute funding climate skeptics is the best that you have?

Recording is gathering data which is only one part of the scientific method. The data gathering stations are also in question as well as the human hand involved in categorizing that data. You asked for one, I gave it to you. Now, you show me any instance where a human actually changed the global climate.

Unprecedented heat, hundreds dead and a town destroyed. Climate change is frying the Northern Hemisphere

that's weather. you don't know the difference between it and climate. it's well documented in here.

You should read more of the documentation in here then.

 

[otto105]

otto105 is it recording how hot 120 PPM of CO2 is? let's see that repeatable science experiment. Ready, go.

See you must correlate any increase in heat to the temperature of CO2. So let's see the repeatable experiments.

Sure, knock yourself out.

On the Distribution of Climate Change Resulting from an Increase in CO2 Content of the Atmosphere

BTW we passed 120ppm long ago.

 

[Leo123]

Sure, knock yourself out.

On the Distribution of Climate Change Resulting from an Increase in CO2 Content of the Atmosphere

BTW we passed 120ppm long ago.

From your link: "general circulation model"....In the first sentence no less. A whole article based on a model. Did you even read it yourself?

 

[jc456]

Sure, knock yourself out.

nope, you quote the piece that backs your claim? why didn't you? Cause it isn't there. by the way, we're at 400PPm, 120 PPM up so the reference is to the increase count, so how hot is it? let's see the experiments that have been repeated? still waiting a link to nonsense isn't support data.

 

[jc456]

Sure, knock yourself out.

On the Distribution of Climate Change Resulting from an Increase in CO2 Content of the Atmosphere

BTW we passed 120ppm long ago.

From your link: "general circulation model"....In the first sentence no less. A whole article based on a model. Did you even read it yourself?

I know he didn't. why else wouldn't he post the quoted material that showed the experiment. BTW, a model is not an experiment. never will be.

 

[jc456]

Yeah, it's called temperature and recording it's increase. It's recording the increase in CO2....


The heartland institute funding climate skeptics is the best that you have?

Recording is gathering data which is only one part of the scientific method. The data gathering stations are also in question as well as the human hand involved in categorizing that data. You asked for one, I gave it to you. Now, you show me any instance where a human actually changed the global climate.

Unprecedented heat, hundreds dead and a town destroyed. Climate change is frying the Northern Hemisphere

that's weather. you don't know the difference between it and climate. it's well documented in here.

You should read more of the documentation in here then.

it says heat wave, a heat wave is one weather event. Why is the temperature different there than any other location on the globe?

 

[Leo123]

it says heat wave, a heat wave is one weather event. Why is the temperature different there than any other location on the globe?

Yeah, the moron didn't even read his own article.

 

[jc456]

it says heat wave, a heat wave is one weather event. Why is the temperature different there than any other location on the globe?

Yeah, the moron didn't even read his own article.

right?

 

[otto105]

it says heat wave, a heat wave is one weather event. Why is the temperature different there than any other location on the globe?

Yeah, the moron didn't even read his own article.

A little heatwave?

That little heatwave was described as a 1000 year event. Broke all heat records in the pacific northwest. This on the back of record drought in the southwest.

BTW it's hot all over the globe, so it's no different.

 

[jc456]

A little heatwave?

That little heatwave was described as a 1000 year event. Broke all heat records in the pacific northwest. This on the back of record drought in the southwest.

BTW it's hot all over the globe, so it's no different.

and what? it's one event. climate is not based on one event. Dude, seriously, it's like a discussion with a brick. Except the brick is brighter.

 

[otto105]

A little heatwave?

That little heatwave was described as a 1000 year event. Broke all heat records in the pacific northwest. This on the back of record drought in the southwest.

BTW it's hot all over the globe, so it's no different.

and what? it's one event. climate is not based on one event. Dude, seriously, it's like a discussion with a brick. Except the brick is brighter.

Yeah, that was one event from a fast changing climate.

But you're a denier so...

 

[Leo123]

A little heatwave?

That little heatwave was described as a 1000 year event. Broke all heat records in the pacific northwest. This on the back of record drought in the southwest.

BTW it's hot all over the globe, so it's no different.

So it happened 1000 years ago....Was that human caused too?

 

[otto105]

A little heatwave?

That little heatwave was described as a 1000 year event. Broke all heat records in the pacific northwest. This on the back of record drought in the southwest.

BTW it's hot all over the globe, so it's no different.

So it happened 1000 years ago....Was that human caused too?

Would that change the fact that this warming is caused by us?

 

[Leo123]

Would that change the fact that this warming is caused by us?

It's proof that global warming is NOT caused by us today.

 

[otto105]

Would that change the fact that this warming is caused by us?

It's proof that global warming is NOT caused by us today.

Can you provide one scientific organization that backs your assertion ?

if not, why?

 

[Leo123]

Can you provide one scientific organization that backs your assertion ?

if not, why?

And again, show me one scientific experiment that proves humans are able to change global climate. Heck even the EDF admits that the only way they can have a human caused global warming is through the process of elimination. Scientifically, human caused climate change is a guess. Now, I am not against studying the climate because we may be facing a natural climate change.

The headline in E&E News, WOWT-TV, Scientific American, WorldNewsNetwork, and other media outlets this week, “Unprecedented Heat Wave in Pacific Northwest Driven by Climate Change” couldn’t possibly be more unscientific. With absolutely no analysis, no historical context, and nothing but conjecture, author Anne. C. Mulkern eschewed science for advocacy in her reporting of the brief Pacific Northwest (PNW) heat wave this week.


Yes, the heat wave set all-time high temperature records in Washington, Oregon, and Canada. But consider this: At best, we have about 150 years of reliable weather records for the PNW, so a “black swan” outlier event like this isn’t surprising. It’s happened before, most certainly. We just weren’t around to observe it. After all, Native Americans did not keep written weather records.


High (and low) temperature records are nothing new. But it is important to look at the past, because data show us that more high temperature records were set during the first half of the twentieth century than during the past 50 years. Even the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) confirms this.

Major Media FAIL on Reporting the Pacific Northwest Heatwave

The headline in E&E News, WOWT-TV, Scientific American, WorldNewsNetwork, and other media outlets this week, “Unprecedented Heat Wave in Pacific Northwest Driven by Cli…

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[candycorn]

Is the climate changing?

Yes.

 

[otto105]

Would that change the fact that this warming is caused by us?

It's proof that global warming is NOT caused by us today.

How so?

 

[otto105]

Can you provide one scientific organization that backs your assertion ?

if not, why?

And again, show me one scientific experiment that proves humans are able to change global climate. Heck even the EDF admits that the only way they can have a human caused global warming is through the process of elimination. Scientifically, human caused climate change is a guess. Now, I am not against studying the climate because we may be facing a natural climate change.

The headline in E&E News, WOWT-TV, Scientific American, WorldNewsNetwork, and other media outlets this week, “Unprecedented Heat Wave in Pacific Northwest Driven by Climate Change” couldn’t possibly be more unscientific. With absolutely no analysis, no historical context, and nothing but conjecture, author Anne. C. Mulkern eschewed science for advocacy in her reporting of the brief Pacific Northwest (PNW) heat wave this week.


Yes, the heat wave set all-time high temperature records in Washington, Oregon, and Canada. But consider this: At best, we have about 150 years of reliable weather records for the PNW, so a “black swan” outlier event like this isn’t surprising. It’s happened before, most certainly. We just weren’t around to observe it. After all, Native Americans did not keep written weather records.


High (and low) temperature records are nothing new. But it is important to look at the past, because data show us that more high temperature records were set during the first half of the twentieth century than during the past 50 years. Even the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) confirms this.

Major Media FAIL on Reporting the Pacific Northwest Heatwave

The headline in E&E News, WOWT-TV, Scientific American, WorldNewsNetwork, and other media outlets this week, “Unprecedented Heat Wave in Pacific Northwest Driven by Cli…

wattsupwiththat.com

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[Leo123]

Can you provide one scientific organization that backs your assertion ?

if not, why?

And again, show me one scientific experiment that proves humans are able to change global climate. Heck even the EDF admits that the only way they can have a human caused global warming is through the process of elimination. Scientifically, human caused climate change is a guess. Now, I am not against studying the climate because we may be facing a natural climate change.

The headline in E&E News, WOWT-TV, Scientific American, WorldNewsNetwork, and other media outlets this week, “Unprecedented Heat Wave in Pacific Northwest Driven by Climate Change” couldn’t possibly be more unscientific. With absolutely no analysis, no historical context, and nothing but conjecture, author Anne. C. Mulkern eschewed science for advocacy in her reporting of the brief Pacific Northwest (PNW) heat wave this week.


Yes, the heat wave set all-time high temperature records in Washington, Oregon, and Canada. But consider this: At best, we have about 150 years of reliable weather records for the PNW, so a “black swan” outlier event like this isn’t surprising. It’s happened before, most certainly. We just weren’t around to observe it. After all, Native Americans did not keep written weather records.


High (and low) temperature records are nothing new. But it is important to look at the past, because data show us that more high temperature records were set during the first half of the twentieth century than during the past 50 years. Even the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) confirms this.

Major Media FAIL on Reporting the Pacific Northwest Heatwave

The headline in E&E News, WOWT-TV, Scientific American, WorldNewsNetwork, and other media outlets this week, “Unprecedented Heat Wave in Pacific Northwest Driven by Cli…

wattsupwiththat.com

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Well, first off, the timeline in that graph only comprises 50 years. Hardly an adequate sampling of a planet that is 4.54 billion years old. Second, it proves nothing about any global human caused warming because, the sampling is from large metropolitan areas that are subject to local warming due to on-going additons of pavement, and on-going, local, changes in the environment otherwise known as the "heat island effect."