Is Joe’s blanket pardon of Hunter an obstruction of justice?

[EvilCat Breath]

Now that Hunter has been pardoned he is no longer entitled to any 5th Amendment constitutional protections. Now, put him on the stand and drill him a new asshole.

 

[westwall]

Show me what Jordan and Comey found.

Go ahead.

Do it.

You got NUTHIN but your wishes and partisan hackery.

I already did you dumbass.

 

[scruffy]

Are you fools STILL under the mass delusion there is evidence of a crime by Joe Biden?

Seriously?

Pedophile enabler Gym Jordan and Tard James Comey spent YEARS poring through TENS OF THOUSANDS of bank records and found NOTHING.

Nada. Zip. Zilch. Zero.

But these fucking evil, lying calumniators told you gullible morons they were onto something. And you bleeved them without question.

WHICH WAS THE WHOLE POINT.

There's nothing there, sweetheart.

Therefore, no obstruction.

Who is whispering this shit into your echo chamber of a skull?

Except the 10 million from the Chinese, the 5 million from the Russians, etc etc.

 

[westwall]

Except the 10 million from the Chinese, the 5 million from the Russians, etc etc.

Guano sounds worried.

I wonder how he's wrapped up in it all?

 

[beautress]

Adam Shiff thinks so. Or at least he did. Back in 2018, he wrote that pardoning people for crimes in which the president himself is implicated is an obstruction of justice.

It is obvious to anyone with a thinking brain that Joe gained by allowing, or even enabling, his family to get rich by peddling his influence. It is more likely than not that he himself is “The Big Guy” who raked in 10% of the take. But now, because Joe made a blanket pardon covering yet-undiscovered crimes, he has protected himself.

But…..the pardon does not cover FUTURE crimes. There is nothing preventing the DOJ from calling Hunter to testify as to crimes committed by his father, uncle, or other family members regarding the corruption scheme they were running. He cannot be held liable for what he did, but he CAN be charged with perjury if he lies.

Flashback: Adam Schiff said pardons in which the president is directly implicated could be an ‘obstruction of justice’

As Adam Schiff said in 2018, we wouldn’t want a president abusing the pardon power in order to “shield himself from liability” because such circumstances could very easily amount to an “obstruct[ion of] justice.” Schiff ...

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I have such a low opinion of yanking the chains of well-known American politicians, celebrities, and movie stars, that I must recuse myself from opining when I can't tell the truth, lies, or consequences by way of the internet. A trial in court would be more appropriate than guesswork, inmy humanble opinion.

 

[struth]

Since Joe Biden isn’t implicated in any crimes, it can’t be considered equivalent.

Of course he is....https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Report-of-the-Impeachment-Inquiry-of-Joseph-R.-Biden-Jr.-President-of-the-United-States.pdf

First and foremost, overwhelming evidence demonstrates that President Biden participated in a conspiracy to monetize his office of public trust to enrich his family. Among other aspects of this conspiracy, the Biden family and their business associates received tens of millions of dollars from foreign interests by leading those interests to believe that such payments would provide them access to and influence with President Biden. As Vice President, President Biden actively participated in this conspiracy by, among other things, attending dinners with his family’s foreign business partners and speaking to them by phone, often when being placed on speakerphone by Hunter Biden. For example, in 2014, Vice President Biden attended a dinner for Hunter Biden with Russian oligarch Yelena Baturina.4 Following the dinner, Baturina wired $3.5 million to Rosemont Seneca Thornton, a firm associated with Hunter Biden.5 Then, months later, as Hunter Biden and his business associates continued to solicit more money from Baturina, Vice President Biden participated in a phone call with Baturina and Hunter Biden where Vice President Biden told Baturina, “you be good to my boy.”6 Moreover, President Biden knowingly participated in this conspiracy. Based on the totality of the evidence, it is inconceivable that President Biden did not understand that he was taking part in an effort to enrich his family by abusing his office of public trust. The evidence also establishes that the Biden family went to great lengths to conceal this conspiracy. Foreign money was transmitted to the Biden family through complicated financial transactions. The Biden family laundered funds through intermediate entities and broke up large transactions into numerous smaller transactions. Substantial efforts were also made to hide President Biden’s involvement in his family’s business activities.

 

[struth]

Hey, thanks for pointing out the difference between trump pardoning Roger Stone..........whose refusal to cooperate with Mueller trump bought with a pardon..........and the absence of any credible evidence Joe was implicated in a crime of any sort. Meaning from a legal standpoint, Joe got nothing from pardoning his kid.

As with many trumpian narratives the idea Joe got a legal benefit from the pardon begins with the essential lie of legal jeopardy for Joe from something Hunter did. Repubs have failed to produce any evidence Joe was involved in a crime. Every attempt has been debunked. Unfortunately, trumples don't know that because of the media bubble they surround themselves with.

First and foremost, overwhelming evidence demonstrates that President Biden participated in a conspiracy to monetize his office of public trust to enrich his family. Among other aspects of this conspiracy, the Biden family and their business associates received tens of millions of dollars from foreign interests by leading those interests to believe that such payments would provide them access to and influence with President Biden. As Vice President, President Biden actively participated in this conspiracy by, among other things, attending dinners with his family’s foreign business partners and speaking to them by phone, often when being placed on speakerphone by Hunter Biden. For example, in 2014, Vice President Biden attended a dinner for Hunter Biden with Russian oligarch Yelena Baturina.4 Following the dinner, Baturina wired $3.5 million to Rosemont Seneca Thornton, a firm associated with Hunter Biden.5 Then, months later, as Hunter Biden and his business associates continued to solicit more money from Baturina, Vice President Biden participated in a phone call with Baturina and Hunter Biden where Vice President Biden told Baturina, “you be good to my boy.”6 Moreover, President Biden knowingly participated in this conspiracy. Based on the totality of the evidence, it is inconceivable that President Biden did not understand that he was taking part in an effort to enrich his family by abusing his office of public trust. The evidence also establishes that the Biden family went to great lengths to conceal this conspiracy. Foreign money was transmitted to the Biden family through complicated financial transactions. The Biden family laundered funds through intermediate entities and broke up large transactions into numerous smaller transactions. Substantial efforts were also made to hide President Biden’s involvement in his family’s business activities.

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Report-of-the-Impeachment-Inquiry-of-Joseph-R.-Biden-Jr.-President-of-the-United-States.pdf

 

[Marener]

For example, in 2014, Vice President Biden attended a dinner for Hunter Biden with Russian oligarch Yelena Baturina.4 Following the dinner, Baturina wired $3.5 million to Rosemont Seneca Thornton, a firm associated with Hunter Biden

Not actually illegal.

 

[ColonelAngus]

What is funny are the following.

1) the lefty cult fucks insisting Joe would not pardon Hunter, when we all knew he would.

2) Joe issued a decade long blanket clemency for all federal crimes, and even gave Hunter a few hours of a possible crime spree to spare.

3) The change is SUPPOSEDLY because MERRICK GARLAND was unfairly prosecuting Hunter.

Why do you cult fucks not understand this and why do you keep bringing up Trump?

 

[struth]

Not actually illegal.

Might be, not sure....but that was one thing out of a larger quote, and larger conspiracy.

There is a reason the BIg Guy gave Hunter a pardon from the time he started working for the corrupt Ukrainians until today.

but as the report goes on to discuss:

President Biden’s participation in this conspiracy to enrich his family constitutes impeachable conduct. By monetizing the Vice Presidency for his family’s benefit, he abused his office of public trust, placing the welfare of his family ahead of the welfare of the United States. He also put foreign interests ahead of the interests of the American people. Indeed, precedent set by House Democrats in 2019 in their impeachment of President Donald J. Trump establishes that “abuse of office,” defined as the exercise of “official power to obtain an improper personal benefit, while ignoring or injuring the national interest,” is an impeachable offense.9 Separately, the Committees have gathered evidence that President Biden used his official position to conceal his mishandling of classified information as a private citizen. During his tenure as Vice President, Joe Biden removed highly sensitive classified documents from the White House, despite having no authority to do so. Documents with classified markings were later found at the Penn Biden Center, at his personal residence in a garage, and at the University of Delaware.10 The report of Special Counsel Robert Hur detailed how President Biden willfully retained classified material, shared it with a ghostwriter who was unauthorized to receive classified information, and utilized the classified information to draft a memoir for which he received an $8 million advance.11 The Special Counsel’s report, as well as the Committees’ inquiry, disclosed how President Biden caused White House employees to conceal his conduct and mislead the American people about his actions.

 

[Marener]

Might be, not sure....but that was one thing out of a larger quote, and larger conspiracy.

There is a reason the BIg Guy gave Hunter a pardon from the time he started working for the corrupt Ukrainians until today.

If that’s their conspiracy, they have nothing.

Conspiracy to do what? Have dinner with people?

Not illegal. See McDonnell v US.

 

[struth]

If that’s their conspiracy, they have nothing.

Conspiracy to do what? Have dinner with people?

Not illegal. See McDonnell v US.

It's not their conspiracy, it was one line that you quoted.

Thank you for the reminder of Jack Smith and the Demafacsit last political prosection

 

[Marener]

It's not their conspiracy, it was one line that you quoted.

Thank you for the reminder of Jack Smith and the Demafacsit last political prosection

So where is the crime then? And why are they quoting things that aren’t crimes?

 

[struth]

So where is the crime then? And why are they quoting things that aren’t crimes?

what the F are you talking about? I quoted were they concluded he sold his office.

Bribery is a crime 18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses

First and foremost, overwhelming evidence demonstrates that President Biden participated in a conspiracy to monetize his office of public trust to enrich his family.

 

[Marener]

what the F are you talking about? I quoted were they concluded he sold his office.

Bribery is a crime 18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses

First and foremost, overwhelming evidence demonstrates that President Biden participated in a conspiracy to monetize his office of public trust to enrich his family.

What did they bribe him to do?

Having dinner doesn’t constitute an official act in the law.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Scream a lie loud enough and some dipshits will agree.

That’s why they are cult members.

Joe said he would not pardon Hunter.

He pardoned Hunter.

The cult agrees with both.

 

[struth]

What did they bribe him to do?

Having dinner doesn’t constitute an official act in the law.

Yeah I didn’t suggest they bribed him for dinner

He was on the payroll to sell his influence and lobby.

But who knows the extent of it? I don’t. I doubt anyone outside the Xiden family does…hence why the blanket decade long pardon

 

[struth]

Scream a lie loud enough and some dipshits will agree.

That’s why they are cult members.

Joe said he would not pardon Hunter.

He pardoned Hunter.

The cult agrees with both.

They are a cult, the dembots agree with whatever their cult leader tells them

 

[Marener]

Yeah I didn’t suggest they bribed him for dinner

He was on the payroll to sell his influence and lobby.

But who knows the extent of it? I don’t. I doubt anyone outside the Xiden family does…hence why the blanket decade long pardon

Then why did you quote them talking about dinner?

Still waiting for you to explain the bribery.

 

[struth]

Then why did you quote them talking about dinner?

Still waiting for you to explain the bribery.

hahahha you quoted them talking about a dinner. My quote was from the massive report, just a part of the report, that happened to mention a dinner....a long with many other things.

As you well know.

but you are a troll, that has to deflect because you can't actually defend the corruption from the Xiden Crime cartel and the demafascsit that protected it.