PoliticalChic
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1. There are some things in the universe that are not scientifically explicable.
Can anyone argue that this is not true? If so, they would have to argue that they believe that at some future time, science will be able to explain everything.
Believe becomes the operative term, and such an explanation nudges science into the realm of faith. And it becomes a religion.
2. Which brings to mind this, from Arthur Conan Doyle: Napoleon's question to the atheistic professors on the starry night as he voyaged to Egypt: "Who was it, gentlemen, who made these stars?" has never been answered. To say that the Universe was made by immutable laws only puts the question one degree further back as to who made the laws. I did not, of course, believe in an anthropomorphic God, but I believed then, as I believe now, in an intelligent Force behind all the operations of Nature--a force so infinitely complex and great that my finite brain could get no further than its existence. The New Revelation, by Arthur Conan Doyle; Chapter I: The Search Page 1
3. Similarly, the Big Bang origin of the universe required energy. And Newton stated that mass and energy are interchangeable, but that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. But something must have created the energy, at what we might call the beginning.
a. Now, before one attempts to explain away the obvious problem by inserting the term infinity, lets agree that infinity does not exist in the real world. So, without infinity, it follows that everything in the universe is finite, therefore had a beginning .and, an end.
b. The Greek philosopher Epicurus: It is best to keep an open mind in the absence of decisive verification.
What if science can never explain certain things?
4. The interpretations and explanations provided by science come, mainly by way of our observations, and a few instruments. Human observations. But birds and bees communicate within the ultraviolet portion of sunlight a part of the spectrum that humans dont see.
Ultraviolet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
a. And eyesight is our most important sense. It provides the majority of our sensory information about the world. Consider how much less wed know if we had no eyes. Even so wed probably feel that we knew everything about our surroundings. But we dont know about the world in ultraviolet. Or in infrared. We live between 400 and 700 nanometers.
What Wavelength Goes With a Color?
b. And the inner ear contains hair cells that are moved by sound waves between 20 and 20,000 Hertz.
Sensitivity of Human Ear
Thats the extent of our contact with the real world. Beyond said ranges we dont know about it!
5. Further, our sensory system actually distorts the information that we do collect. For example, there is no such thing as color in the real world: color is made in the mind based on the wavelength information that the eyes send to the brain.
a. And, when we look at a rock, or any solid material, what we are actually seeing is swarms of subatomic particles with lots of empty space between; over 99% of the rock is empty space. Yet, thats not what our limited senses and processing center tell us is true and real.
6. So, do we gather and understand half of what there is to know about the universe? A tenth? A millionth?
Is it possible that there is a force, God, in the universe, and we are unable to process the information due to our limited senses and limited ability to interpret sensory data?
a. Erasmus Darwin paternal grandfather of Charles Darwin and maternal grandfather of Francis Galton, proposes that reason is inferior to generation. [It was his] view of deity as a designer that was present in Newton. The "cause of causes" harkens back to the Aristotelian/Thomistic definition of God as the prime mover who sets all things in motion. Generation and reproduction are thus put into the realm of a causality that is willed by a God who is Himself causeless. He believed that the process of evolution was due to "...the power of acquiring new parts, attended with new propensities, directed by irritations, sensations, volitions, and associations; and thus possessing the faculty of continuing to improve by its own inherent activity, and of delivering down those improvements to by generation to its posterity, world without end." Erasmus Darwin
b. Perhaps claiming that we are abandoning faith and engaging reason is no more than hubris. Rather, the abandonment is based on not realizing how little we know of the parameters of what we call reality. It may simply a question of God in a form that we can never perceive or comprehend.
Covered in chapter nine of "The Genesis Enigma," Parker.
It is best to keep an open mind in the absence of decisive verification.
Can anyone argue that this is not true? If so, they would have to argue that they believe that at some future time, science will be able to explain everything.
Believe becomes the operative term, and such an explanation nudges science into the realm of faith. And it becomes a religion.
2. Which brings to mind this, from Arthur Conan Doyle: Napoleon's question to the atheistic professors on the starry night as he voyaged to Egypt: "Who was it, gentlemen, who made these stars?" has never been answered. To say that the Universe was made by immutable laws only puts the question one degree further back as to who made the laws. I did not, of course, believe in an anthropomorphic God, but I believed then, as I believe now, in an intelligent Force behind all the operations of Nature--a force so infinitely complex and great that my finite brain could get no further than its existence. The New Revelation, by Arthur Conan Doyle; Chapter I: The Search Page 1
3. Similarly, the Big Bang origin of the universe required energy. And Newton stated that mass and energy are interchangeable, but that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. But something must have created the energy, at what we might call the beginning.
a. Now, before one attempts to explain away the obvious problem by inserting the term infinity, lets agree that infinity does not exist in the real world. So, without infinity, it follows that everything in the universe is finite, therefore had a beginning .and, an end.
b. The Greek philosopher Epicurus: It is best to keep an open mind in the absence of decisive verification.
What if science can never explain certain things?
4. The interpretations and explanations provided by science come, mainly by way of our observations, and a few instruments. Human observations. But birds and bees communicate within the ultraviolet portion of sunlight a part of the spectrum that humans dont see.
Ultraviolet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
a. And eyesight is our most important sense. It provides the majority of our sensory information about the world. Consider how much less wed know if we had no eyes. Even so wed probably feel that we knew everything about our surroundings. But we dont know about the world in ultraviolet. Or in infrared. We live between 400 and 700 nanometers.
What Wavelength Goes With a Color?
b. And the inner ear contains hair cells that are moved by sound waves between 20 and 20,000 Hertz.
Sensitivity of Human Ear
Thats the extent of our contact with the real world. Beyond said ranges we dont know about it!
5. Further, our sensory system actually distorts the information that we do collect. For example, there is no such thing as color in the real world: color is made in the mind based on the wavelength information that the eyes send to the brain.
a. And, when we look at a rock, or any solid material, what we are actually seeing is swarms of subatomic particles with lots of empty space between; over 99% of the rock is empty space. Yet, thats not what our limited senses and processing center tell us is true and real.
6. So, do we gather and understand half of what there is to know about the universe? A tenth? A millionth?
Is it possible that there is a force, God, in the universe, and we are unable to process the information due to our limited senses and limited ability to interpret sensory data?
a. Erasmus Darwin paternal grandfather of Charles Darwin and maternal grandfather of Francis Galton, proposes that reason is inferior to generation. [It was his] view of deity as a designer that was present in Newton. The "cause of causes" harkens back to the Aristotelian/Thomistic definition of God as the prime mover who sets all things in motion. Generation and reproduction are thus put into the realm of a causality that is willed by a God who is Himself causeless. He believed that the process of evolution was due to "...the power of acquiring new parts, attended with new propensities, directed by irritations, sensations, volitions, and associations; and thus possessing the faculty of continuing to improve by its own inherent activity, and of delivering down those improvements to by generation to its posterity, world without end." Erasmus Darwin
b. Perhaps claiming that we are abandoning faith and engaging reason is no more than hubris. Rather, the abandonment is based on not realizing how little we know of the parameters of what we call reality. It may simply a question of God in a form that we can never perceive or comprehend.
Covered in chapter nine of "The Genesis Enigma," Parker.
It is best to keep an open mind in the absence of decisive verification.