International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?

[USAF 2023]

There is no such thing as a legitimate resistance movement that specifically plans to target innocent civilians.

Israel kills civilians by the thousands but whines about the onesies twosies by the Palestinians.

Why the double standard?

The Israelis are “ supposed” to accept Rockets being hurled at them without complaining. This actually increased after withdrawal from Gaza. Why the double standard?

 

[P F Tinmore]

First, the definition of a "civilian" does not rest upon whether the Settler Activity is "legal" or "Illegal." That is simply not an issue. If it is "illegal," then it is a civil police and court matter;

What if the civil police and courts are illegal too?

Indeed, civil police and courts are subordinate to your Islamist sharia.

You are always blabbering on about useless stuff. There are no Sharia police and Sharia courts only handle domestic issues and only for Muslims.

BTW, two women sit as judges in the Sharia court in Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

There is no such thing as a legitimate resistance movement that specifically plans to target innocent civilians.

Israel kills civilians by the thousands but whines about the onesies twosies by the Palestinians.

Why the double standard?

The Israelis are “ supposed” to accept Rockets being hurled at them without complaining. This actually increased after withdrawal from Gaza. Why the double standard?

Withdrawal from Gaza is a big fat lie.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is the counter argument. The anti-Government militia in the US use this same argument: " I do not recognize your authority over me; or the legal authority of the court." It does not go very far.

First, the definition of a "civilian" does not rest upon whether the Settler Activity is "legal" or "Illegal." That is simply not an issue. If it is "illegal," then it is a civil police and court matter;

What if the civil police and courts are illegal too?

(COMMENT)

In those areas of the Occupied Territories, → that have been annexed by the Knesset, → fall under the jurisdiction of the Minister of Public Security which has oversight of the Israeli National Police (INP), with its headquarters in [wait for it] → Jerusalem (East). The INP, not so dissimilar to the State Police in America, operates throughout Israel, and Area "C" (West Bank), and where there are no Local City Police.

The Israeli Judiciary has an appeal process --- and total separate --- the Police have various types of internal reviews and oversight. If anyone, citizen or non-citizen, with the jurisdiction of the INP, have what they believe to be evidence corruption or police misconduct (misfeasance, malfeasance or nonfeasance) --- Israel has a very keen interest in maintaining the trust and confidence of the people --- giving faith in the competence of those professionals in the system --- that justice for the people (police and judicial) can be obtained through the legal system.

If you believe that you have such evidence --- that you can categorically make such an allegation, it is incumbent upon you (in some cases a necessary duty or responsibility) to bring this to the attention of the Ombudsman's Office of the Israeli Judiciary through the Office of Public Inquiries.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is the counter argument. The anti-Government militia in the US use this same argument: " I do not recognize your authority over me; or the legal authority of the court." It does not go very far.

First, the definition of a "civilian" does not rest upon whether the Settler Activity is "legal" or "Illegal." That is simply not an issue. If it is "illegal," then it is a civil police and court matter;

What if the civil police and courts are illegal too?

(COMMENT)

In those areas of the Occupied Territories, → that have been annexed by the Knesset, → fall under the jurisdiction of the Minister of Public Security which has oversight of the Israeli National Police (INP), with its headquarters in [wait for it] → Jerusalem (East). The INP, not so dissimilar to the State Police in America, operates throughout Israel, and Area "C" (West Bank), and where there are no Local City Police.

The Israeli Judiciary has an appeal process --- and total separate --- the Police have various types of internal reviews and oversight. If anyone, citizen or non-citizen, with the jurisdiction of the INP, have what they believe to be evidence corruption or police misconduct (misfeasance, malfeasance or nonfeasance) --- Israel has a very keen interest in maintaining the trust and confidence of the people --- giving faith in the competence of those professionals in the system --- that justice for the people (police and judicial) can be obtained through the legal system.

If you believe that you have such evidence --- that you can categorically make such an allegation, it is incumbent upon you (in some cases a necessary duty or responsibility) to bring this to the attention of the Ombudsman's Office of the Israeli Judiciary through the Office of Public Inquiries.

Most Respectfully,
R

All that in territory that does not belong to Israel.

What is their legitimacy?

 

[Hollie]

First, the definition of a "civilian" does not rest upon whether the Settler Activity is "legal" or "Illegal." That is simply not an issue. If it is "illegal," then it is a civil police and court matter;

What if the civil police and courts are illegal too?

Indeed, civil police and courts are subordinate to your Islamist sharia.

You are always blabbering on about useless stuff. There are no Sharia police and Sharia courts only handle domestic issues and only for Muslims.

BTW, two women sit as judges in the Sharia court in Palestine.

I can understand that you’re hoping to defend sharia police but blindly ignoring the reality, and expecting others to do the same, is just dishonest.

Fear and fundamentalism as the 'modesty police' patrol Gaza

 

[Hollie]

There is no such thing as a legitimate resistance movement that specifically plans to target innocent civilians.

Israel kills civilians by the thousands but whines about the onesies twosies by the Palestinians.

Why the double standard?

The Israelis are “ supposed” to accept Rockets being hurled at them without complaining. This actually increased after withdrawal from Gaza. Why the double standard?

Withdrawal from Gaza is a big fat lie.

Can you identify the Israeli presence In Gaza’istan?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OK ! I'll bite...

There is no such thing as a legitimate resistance movement that specifically plans to target innocent civilians.

Israel kills civilians by the thousands but whines about the onesies twosies by the Palestinians.

Why the double standard?

The Israelis are “ supposed” to accept Rockets being hurled at them without complaining. This actually increased after withdrawal from Gaza. Why the double standard?

Withdrawal from Gaza is a big fat lie.

(QUESTIONs)

Q1: What specifically do find as a lie (a deliberate intent to deceive → an intentional untruth)?

Convention (IV) respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land and its annex: Regulations concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.

​

What in Gaza is actually placed under Israel Military Authority?

Most of the security measures fall within (but not limited to) the 19 international legal instruments to prevent terrorist acts.

17. 1997 International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings

• Creates a regime of universal jurisdiction over the unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.

18. 1999 International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism

• Requires parties to take steps to prevent and counteract the financing of terrorists, whether direct or indirect, through groups claiming to have charitable, social or cultural goals or which also engage in illicit activities such as drug trafficking or gun running;
• Commits States to hold those who finance terrorism criminally, civilly or administratively liable for such acts; and
• Provides for the identification, freezing and seizure of funds allocated for terrorist activities, as well as for the sharing of the forfeited funds with other States on a case-by-case basis. Bank secrecy is no longer adequate justification for refusing to cooperate.

S/RES/2220 (2015)

​

• Expressing its determination to implement existing and to take further practical steps to prevent the illicit transfer, destabilizing accumulation and misuse of small arms and light weapons (SALW), including in • support of other ongoing processes;

• Emphasizing that the right of individual and collective self-defence recognizedin Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations and the legitimate security demands of all countries should be fully taken into account, and recognizing that small arms and light weapons are traded, manufactured and retained by States for legitimate security, sporting and commercial considerations;

• Urges Member States that have not yet done so to take measures, pursuant to their national laws, to regulate brokering taking place under their jurisdiction for small arms and light weapons, including measures that may require brokers to register or obtain written authorization before engaging in brokering;
​

​

Whatever mechanisms that the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) now find uncomfortable is a consequence of their own Jihadism, Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence, and to prevent or suppress such activity for the maintenance of regional security and stabilization; as well as the protection of the people of Israel and their sovereign integrity.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[abi]

RE: International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OK ! I'll bite...

There is no such thing as a legitimate resistance movement that specifically plans to target innocent civilians.

Israel kills civilians by the thousands but whines about the onesies twosies by the Palestinians.

Why the double standard?

The Israelis are “ supposed” to accept Rockets being hurled at them without complaining. This actually increased after withdrawal from Gaza. Why the double standard?

Withdrawal from Gaza is a big fat lie.

(QUESTIONs)

Q1: What specifically do find as a lie (a deliberate intent to deceive → an intentional untruth)?

Convention (IV) respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land and its annex: Regulations concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.
View attachment 167725
​

What in Gaza is actually placed under Israel Military Authority?

Most of the security measures fall within (but not limited to) the 19 international legal instruments to prevent terrorist acts.

17. 1997 International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings

• Creates a regime of universal jurisdiction over the unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.

18. 1999 International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism

• 
  
  
  • Requires parties to take steps to prevent and counteract the financing of terrorists, whether direct or indirect, through groups claiming to have charitable, social or cultural goals or which also engage in illicit activities such as drug trafficking or gun running;
  • Commits States to hold those who finance terrorism criminally, civilly or administratively liable for such acts; and
  • Provides for the identification, freezing and seizure of funds allocated for terrorist activities, as well as for the sharing of the forfeited funds with other States on a case-by-case basis. Bank secrecy is no longer adequate justification for refusing to cooperate.

S/RES/2220 (2015)

• Expressing its determination to implement existing and to take further practical steps to prevent the illicit transfer, destabilizing accumulation and misuse of small arms and light weapons (SALW), including in • support of other ongoing processes;

• Emphasizing that the right of individual and collective self-defence recognizedin Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations and the legitimate security demands of all countries should be fully taken into account, and recognizing that small arms and light weapons are traded, manufactured and retained by States for legitimate security, sporting and commercial considerations;

• Urges Member States that have not yet done so to take measures, pursuant to their national laws, to regulate brokering taking place under their jurisdiction for small arms and light weapons, including measures that may require brokers to register or obtain written authorization before engaging in brokering;​

Whatever mechanisms that the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) now find uncomfortable is a consequence of their own Jihadism, Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence, and to prevent or suppress such activity for the maintenance of regional security and stabilization; as well as the protection of the people of Israel and their sovereign integrity.

Most Respectfully,
R

Whatever mechanisms that the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) now find uncomfortable is a consequence of their own Jihadism, Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence, and to prevent or suppress such activity for the maintenance of regional security and stabilization; as well as the protection of the people of Israel and their sovereign integrity. of occupation by (HoZT) Hostile zionist terrorists.

 

[Hollie]

RE: International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OK ! I'll bite...

There is no such thing as a legitimate resistance movement that specifically plans to target innocent civilians.

Israel kills civilians by the thousands but whines about the onesies twosies by the Palestinians.

Why the double standard?

The Israelis are “ supposed” to accept Rockets being hurled at them without complaining. This actually increased after withdrawal from Gaza. Why the double standard?

Withdrawal from Gaza is a big fat lie.

(QUESTIONs)

Q1: What specifically do find as a lie (a deliberate intent to deceive → an intentional untruth)?

Convention (IV) respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land and its annex: Regulations concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.
View attachment 167725
​

What in Gaza is actually placed under Israel Military Authority?

Most of the security measures fall within (but not limited to) the 19 international legal instruments to prevent terrorist acts.

17. 1997 International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings

• Creates a regime of universal jurisdiction over the unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.

18. 1999 International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism

• 
  
  
  • Requires parties to take steps to prevent and counteract the financing of terrorists, whether direct or indirect, through groups claiming to have charitable, social or cultural goals or which also engage in illicit activities such as drug trafficking or gun running;
  • Commits States to hold those who finance terrorism criminally, civilly or administratively liable for such acts; and
  • Provides for the identification, freezing and seizure of funds allocated for terrorist activities, as well as for the sharing of the forfeited funds with other States on a case-by-case basis. Bank secrecy is no longer adequate justification for refusing to cooperate.

S/RES/2220 (2015)

• Expressing its determination to implement existing and to take further practical steps to prevent the illicit transfer, destabilizing accumulation and misuse of small arms and light weapons (SALW), including in • support of other ongoing processes;

• Emphasizing that the right of individual and collective self-defence recognizedin Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations and the legitimate security demands of all countries should be fully taken into account, and recognizing that small arms and light weapons are traded, manufactured and retained by States for legitimate security, sporting and commercial considerations;

• Urges Member States that have not yet done so to take measures, pursuant to their national laws, to regulate brokering taking place under their jurisdiction for small arms and light weapons, including measures that may require brokers to register or obtain written authorization before engaging in brokering;​

Whatever mechanisms that the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) now find uncomfortable is a consequence of their own Jihadism, Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence, and to prevent or suppress such activity for the maintenance of regional security and stabilization; as well as the protection of the people of Israel and their sovereign integrity.

Most Respectfully,
R

Whatever mechanisms that the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) now find uncomfortable is a consequence of their own Jihadism, Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence, and to prevent or suppress such activity for the maintenance of regional security and stabilization; as well as the protection of the people of Israel and their sovereign integrity. of occupation by (HoZT) Hostile zionist terrorists.

That was rather stereotypical, Louie. Your oft-used tactic is to copy / paste and alter what others have written.

Can I show you relevant examples?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

See Posting #288 below:

RE: International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is the counter argument. The anti-Government militia in the US use this same argument: " I do not recognize your authority over me; or the legal authority of the court." It does not go very far.

First, the definition of a "civilian" does not rest upon whether the Settler Activity is "legal" or "Illegal." That is simply not an issue. If it is "illegal," then it is a civil police and court matter;

What if the civil police and courts are illegal too?

(COMMENT)

In those areas of the Occupied Territories, → that have been annexed by the Knesset, → fall under the jurisdiction of the Minister of Public Security which has oversight of the Israeli National Police (INP), with its headquarters in [wait for it] → Jerusalem (East). The INP, not so dissimilar to the State Police in America, operates throughout Israel, and Area "C" (West Bank), and where there are no Local City Police.

The Israeli Judiciary has an appeal process --- and total separate --- the Police have various types of internal reviews and oversight. If anyone, citizen or non-citizen, with the jurisdiction of the INP, have what they believe to be evidence corruption or police misconduct (misfeasance, malfeasance or nonfeasance) --- Israel has a very keen interest in maintaining the trust and confidence of the people --- giving faith in the competence of those professionals in the system --- that justice for the people (police and judicial) can be obtained through the legal system.

If you believe that you have such evidence --- that you can categorically make such an allegation, it is incumbent upon you (in some cases a necessary duty or responsibility) to bring this to the attention of the Ombudsman's Office of the Israeli Judiciary through the Office of Public Inquiries.

Most Respectfully,
R

All that in territory that does not belong to Israel.

What is their legitimacy?

(COMMENT)

I'm not a lawyer, so I cannot give you the technical legal instrumentality that you need when answering questions of national legitimacy.

What I do know is that the territory that you might be trying to argue about was not taken from any previously established Arab-Palestinian Sovereignty. Nothing was actually under the effective control of the Arab Palestinians. They simply don't have standing.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[abi]

I'm not a lawyer

Obviously.

What I do know is that the territory that you might be trying to argue about was not taken from any previously established Arab-Palestinian Sovereignty.

It was taken from people. It was taken violently. The horror remains today as a brutal occupation that must end.

 

[teddyearp]

Operation Protective Edge?

Was a war crime, we are talking about what the Palestinians can legally do to resist occupation.

A war crime??? So now its a crime to retaliate against rocket fire on schools?

 

[Indeependent]

I'm not a lawyer

Obviously.

What I do know is that the territory that you might be trying to argue about was not taken from any previously established Arab-Palestinian Sovereignty.

It was taken from people. It was taken violently. The horror remains today as a brutal occupation that must end.

No wonder educated West Bank Jordanians are constantly helping the IDF to foil terrorist attacks.

 

[Indeependent]

Operation Protective Edge?

Was a war crime, we are talking about what the Palestinians can legally do to resist occupation.

A war crime??? So now its a crime to retaliate against rocket fire on schools?

Well, it is if you're a Jew.

 

[Hollie]

I'm not a lawyer

Obviously.

What I do know is that the territory that you might be trying to argue about was not taken from any previously established Arab-Palestinian Sovereignty.

It was taken from people. It was taken violently. The horror remains today as a brutal occupation that must end.

The horror appears to be your inability to assemble a coherent argument.

As we know, the collapse of the Ottoman Empire resulted in that entity releasing all rights and title to the land area they controlled and held sovereignty over. Can you identify the sovereign State or territory that was, as you rattled on about, “taken” from Arab-Moslem settlers and foreign land owners?

 

[Indeependent]

I'm not a lawyer

Obviously.

What I do know is that the territory that you might be trying to argue about was not taken from any previously established Arab-Palestinian Sovereignty.

It was taken from people. It was taken violently. The horror remains today as a brutal occupation that must end.

The horror appears to be your inability to assemble a coherent argument.

As we know, the collapse of the Ottoman Empire resulted in that entity releasing all rights and title to the land area they controlled and held sovereignty over. Can you identify the sovereign State or territory that was, as you rattled on about, “taken” from Arab-Moslem settlers and foreign land owners?

What argument (as in singular argument?)?
Babbly is slinging nonsense in every direction all the time.
Babbly would be held in contempt of court.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OK ! I'll bite...

There is no such thing as a legitimate resistance movement that specifically plans to target innocent civilians.

Israel kills civilians by the thousands but whines about the onesies twosies by the Palestinians.

Why the double standard?

The Israelis are “ supposed” to accept Rockets being hurled at them without complaining. This actually increased after withdrawal from Gaza. Why the double standard?

Withdrawal from Gaza is a big fat lie.

(QUESTIONs)

Q1: What specifically do find as a lie (a deliberate intent to deceive → an intentional untruth)?

Convention (IV) respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land and its annex: Regulations concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.
View attachment 167725
​

What in Gaza is actually placed under Israel Military Authority?

Most of the security measures fall within (but not limited to) the 19 international legal instruments to prevent terrorist acts.

17. 1997 International Convention for the Suppression of Terrorist Bombings

• Creates a regime of universal jurisdiction over the unlawful and intentional use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place.

18. 1999 International Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism

• 
  
  
  • Requires parties to take steps to prevent and counteract the financing of terrorists, whether direct or indirect, through groups claiming to have charitable, social or cultural goals or which also engage in illicit activities such as drug trafficking or gun running;
  • Commits States to hold those who finance terrorism criminally, civilly or administratively liable for such acts; and
  • Provides for the identification, freezing and seizure of funds allocated for terrorist activities, as well as for the sharing of the forfeited funds with other States on a case-by-case basis. Bank secrecy is no longer adequate justification for refusing to cooperate.

S/RES/2220 (2015)

• Expressing its determination to implement existing and to take further practical steps to prevent the illicit transfer, destabilizing accumulation and misuse of small arms and light weapons (SALW), including in • support of other ongoing processes;

• Emphasizing that the right of individual and collective self-defence recognizedin Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations and the legitimate security demands of all countries should be fully taken into account, and recognizing that small arms and light weapons are traded, manufactured and retained by States for legitimate security, sporting and commercial considerations;

• Urges Member States that have not yet done so to take measures, pursuant to their national laws, to regulate brokering taking place under their jurisdiction for small arms and light weapons, including measures that may require brokers to register or obtain written authorization before engaging in brokering;​

Whatever mechanisms that the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) now find uncomfortable is a consequence of their own Jihadism, Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence, and to prevent or suppress such activity for the maintenance of regional security and stabilization; as well as the protection of the people of Israel and their sovereign integrity.

Most Respectfully,
R

Are you still pimping Israel's terrorist propaganda campaign?

• Emphasizing that the right of individual and collective self-defence recognizedin Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations and the legitimate security demands of all countries should be fully taken into account, and recognizing that small arms and light weapons are traded, manufactured and retained by States for legitimate security, sporting and commercial considerations;

The Palestinians have the right to arms for the purpose of self defense. They have never used their arms against anyone other than their occupiers.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

See Posting #288 below:

RE: International law or even a legal framework regarding what is legitimate resistance to occupation?
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is the counter argument. The anti-Government militia in the US use this same argument: " I do not recognize your authority over me; or the legal authority of the court." It does not go very far.

First, the definition of a "civilian" does not rest upon whether the Settler Activity is "legal" or "Illegal." That is simply not an issue. If it is "illegal," then it is a civil police and court matter;

What if the civil police and courts are illegal too?

(COMMENT)

In those areas of the Occupied Territories, → that have been annexed by the Knesset, → fall under the jurisdiction of the Minister of Public Security which has oversight of the Israeli National Police (INP), with its headquarters in [wait for it] → Jerusalem (East). The INP, not so dissimilar to the State Police in America, operates throughout Israel, and Area "C" (West Bank), and where there are no Local City Police.

The Israeli Judiciary has an appeal process --- and total separate --- the Police have various types of internal reviews and oversight. If anyone, citizen or non-citizen, with the jurisdiction of the INP, have what they believe to be evidence corruption or police misconduct (misfeasance, malfeasance or nonfeasance) --- Israel has a very keen interest in maintaining the trust and confidence of the people --- giving faith in the competence of those professionals in the system --- that justice for the people (police and judicial) can be obtained through the legal system.

If you believe that you have such evidence --- that you can categorically make such an allegation, it is incumbent upon you (in some cases a necessary duty or responsibility) to bring this to the attention of the Ombudsman's Office of the Israeli Judiciary through the Office of Public Inquiries.

Most Respectfully,
R

All that in territory that does not belong to Israel.

What is their legitimacy?

(COMMENT)

I'm not a lawyer, so I cannot give you the technical legal instrumentality that you need when answering questions of national legitimacy.

What I do know is that the territory that you might be trying to argue about was not taken from any previously established Arab-Palestinian Sovereignty. Nothing was actually under the effective control of the Arab Palestinians. They simply don't have standing.

Most Respectfully,
R

We have been over this a thousand times.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I'm not a lawyer

Obviously.

What I do know is that the territory that you might be trying to argue about was not taken from any previously established Arab-Palestinian Sovereignty.

It was taken from people. It was taken violently. The horror remains today as a brutal occupation that must end.

The horror appears to be your inability to assemble a coherent argument.

As we know, the collapse of the Ottoman Empire resulted in that entity releasing all rights and title to the land area they controlled and held sovereignty over. Can you identify the sovereign State or territory that was, as you rattled on about, “taken” from Arab-Moslem settlers and foreign land owners?

That territory was ceded to Palestine and the people became the sovereign citizens of Palestine. The right to sovereignty is held by the people not a government or state.