Inside the desperate rush to save decades of US scientific data from deletion

[EvilEyeFleegle]

A quiet crisis..as scientists rush to save valuable data being deleted by the Visigoths currently running our country.

Inside the desperate rush to save decades of US scientific data from deletion

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.

www.bbc.com

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of health, climate change and extreme weather research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.
Some of them are in the US. Others are scattered around the world. There are hundreds, many even thousands of people involved across multiple networks. And they keep a damn close eye on their phones.
No one knows when the next alert or request to save a chunk of US government-held climate data will come in. Such data, long available online, keeps getting taken down by US President Donald Trump's administration. For the last six months or so, Cathy Richards has been entrenched in the response. She works for one of several organizations bent on downloading and archiving public data before it disappears.

This rush to safeguard vital environmental data is part of a broader movement to rescue all kinds of scientific data published online by the US government. Biomedical and health researchers working with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), for example, have been frantically searching for ways to back up important data following executive orders issued by Trump about what information on gender and diversity may be published by federal bodies.
Scientists have expressed fears about a wide range of resources that might go next – from historical weather records to data gathered by Nasa satellites. On 16 April, the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) announced that a list of datasets regarding ocean monitoring were now scheduled to be removed in early May.

 

[Crepitus]

A quiet crisis..as scientists rush to save valuable data being deleted by the Visigoths currently running our country.

Inside the desperate rush to save decades of US scientific data from deletion

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.

www.bbc.com

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of health, climate change and extreme weather research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.
Some of them are in the US. Others are scattered around the world. There are hundreds, many even thousands of people involved across multiple networks. And they keep a damn close eye on their phones.
No one knows when the next alert or request to save a chunk of US government-held climate data will come in. Such data, long available online, keeps getting taken down by US President Donald Trump's administration. For the last six months or so, Cathy Richards has been entrenched in the response. She works for one of several organizations bent on downloading and archiving public data before it disappears.

This rush to safeguard vital environmental data is part of a broader movement to rescue all kinds of scientific data published online by the US government. Biomedical and health researchers working with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), for example, have been frantically searching for ways to back up important data following executive orders issued by Trump about what information on gender and diversity may be published by federal bodies.
Scientists have expressed fears about a wide range of resources that might go next – from historical weather records to data gathered by Nasa satellites. On 16 April, the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) announced that a list of datasets regarding ocean monitoring were now scheduled to be removed in early May.

I can't understand the reasoning behind deleting all this data.

It makes no sense at all.

 

[Meister]

A quiet crisis..as scientists rush to save valuable data being deleted by the Visigoths currently running our country.

Inside the desperate rush to save decades of US scientific data from deletion

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.

www.bbc.com

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of health, climate change and extreme weather research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.
Some of them are in the US. Others are scattered around the world. There are hundreds, many even thousands of people involved across multiple networks. And they keep a damn close eye on their phones.
No one knows when the next alert or request to save a chunk of US government-held climate data will come in. Such data, long available online, keeps getting taken down by US President Donald Trump's administration. For the last six months or so, Cathy Richards has been entrenched in the response. She works for one of several organizations bent on downloading and archiving public data before it disappears.

This rush to safeguard vital environmental data is part of a broader movement to rescue all kinds of scientific data published online by the US government. Biomedical and health researchers working with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), for example, have been frantically searching for ways to back up important data following executive orders issued by Trump about what information on gender and diversity may be published by federal bodies.
Scientists have expressed fears about a wide range of resources that might go next – from historical weather records to data gathered by Nasa satellites. On 16 April, the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) announced that a list of datasets regarding ocean monitoring were now scheduled to be removed in early May.

I've noticed that with climate change over the last 15 years.
Seems both sides do it.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

I can't understand the reasoning behind deleting all this data.

It makes no sense at all.

Sadly..it make all too much sense.

Controlling the flow of fact..erasing inconvenient or unpleasant science--is key to controlling the narrative and affirming the misconceptions of the RW base.

However, I think this time in history may well be unique..because it is hard to completely erase data...and while some will be lost, I expect the bulk to remain out there.

Will be a lot harder to access though~

 

[scruffy]

I can't understand the reasoning behind deleting all this data.

It makes no sense at all.

Nothing is being deleted.

Taking it off line does not equate with if being deleted.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

I've noticed that with climate change over the last 15 years.
Seems both sides do it.

Yeah..although the scale now is pretty unprecedented. It's not just climate data that's being deleted. anything that smacks of women's reproductive medicine..anything construed as 'DEI'--studies on race, gender dysphoria--and on and on.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Nothing is being deleted.

Taking it off line does not equate with if being deleted.

If it's not backed up on a physical medium..then yeah, it's deleted. Even if it is backed up..if no one can access it might as well be deleted..from a practical standpoint.

 

[White 6]

I can't understand the reasoning behind deleting all this data.

It makes no sense at all.

Think of it like Hitler burning books, only now it is electronically coded data, that can be deleted with a keystroke, instead of having a big fire at Fahrenheit 451. If nobody knows, they cannot complain about, plan around, or forecast based on the accumulated knowledge. Knowledge is power, and this administration figures, to make the public, scientists, and academics as powerless as possible, and much easier to control, if they have nothing to back up what they say they have learned. Ignorance is bliss, saith the anti-science right wing.

 

[Seymour Flops]

A quiet crisis..as scientists rush to save valuable data being deleted by the Visigoths currently running our country.

Inside the desperate rush to save decades of US scientific data from deletion

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.

www.bbc.com

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of health, climate change and extreme weather research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.
Some of them are in the US. Others are scattered around the world. There are hundreds, many even thousands of people involved across multiple networks. And they keep a damn close eye on their phones.
No one knows when the next alert or request to save a chunk of US government-held climate data will come in. Such data, long available online, keeps getting taken down by US President Donald Trump's administration. For the last six months or so, Cathy Richards has been entrenched in the response. She works for one of several organizations bent on downloading and archiving public data before it disappears.

This rush to safeguard vital environmental data is part of a broader movement to rescue all kinds of scientific data published online by the US government. Biomedical and health researchers working with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), for example, have been frantically searching for ways to back up important data following executive orders issued by Trump about what information on gender and diversity may be published by federal bodies.
Scientists have expressed fears about a wide range of resources that might go next – from historical weather records to data gathered by Nasa satellites. On 16 April, the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) announced that a list of datasets regarding ocean monitoring were now scheduled to be removed in early May.

So . . . they're like these rilly, rilly smart scientists and stuff?

But, not quite smart enought to know to back up their files?

 

[Hellokitty]

A quiet crisis..as scientists rush to save valuable data being deleted by the Visigoths currently running our country.

Inside the desperate rush to save decades of US scientific data from deletion

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.

www.bbc.com

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of health, climate change and extreme weather research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.
Some of them are in the US. Others are scattered around the world. There are hundreds, many even thousands of people involved across multiple networks. And they keep a damn close eye on their phones.
No one knows when the next alert or request to save a chunk of US government-held climate data will come in. Such data, long available online, keeps getting taken down by US President Donald Trump's administration. For the last six months or so, Cathy Richards has been entrenched in the response. She works for one of several organizations bent on downloading and archiving public data before it disappears.

This rush to safeguard vital environmental data is part of a broader movement to rescue all kinds of scientific data published online by the US government. Biomedical and health researchers working with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), for example, have been frantically searching for ways to back up important data following executive orders issued by Trump about what information on gender and diversity may be published by federal bodies.
Scientists have expressed fears about a wide range of resources that might go next – from historical weather records to data gathered by Nasa satellites. On 16 April, the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) announced that a list of datasets regarding ocean monitoring were now scheduled to be removed in early May.

Sounds like a bunch of "the sky is falling" liberal spin from people being fire. Can't remember who it was from the TRUMP administration who was on CNN and said they fired a bunch of unnecessary people in scientific research and this is exactly what he said they would do.

 

[yidnar]

Think of it like Hitler burning books, only now it is electronically coded data, that can be deleted with a key stroke, instead of having a big fire at fahrenheit 451. If nobody knows, they cannot complain about, plan around, or forecast based on the accumulated knowledge. Knowledge is power, and this administration figure, to make the public, scientists, and acedemics as powerless as possible, and much easier to control, if they have nothing to back up what they say they have learned. Ignorance is bliss, saith the anti-science right wing.

funny you brought up Hitler lefty .. because he espoused many of the same views of the party you vote for .

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

So . . . they're like these rilly, rilly smart scientists and stuff?

But, not quite smart enought to know to back up their files?

Yup..sure they do. But it's all about finding homes for all that data....before it goes away.
I note that this story is in the BBC---the world sees the loss...even if you do not~

 

[Seymour Flops]

I can't understand the reasoning behind deleting all this data.

It makes no sense at all.

The article said nothing about "deleting" data. That was Fleegle's mistake.

It's about the Trump administration closing websites that publish scientific data. Which is not happening. There is "fear" that this "might" happen, due to the fact that Trump's administration is no longer publishing gender and diversity propaganda.

See how that works?

They take down "a teachers guide to working with elementary school transgirls" or some such, and next they will erase Newton's three laws.

 

[theHawk]

I can't understand the reasoning behind deleting all this data.

It makes no sense at all.

Criminals deleting their crimes.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

The article said nothing about "deleting" data. That was Fleegle's mistake.

It's about the Trump administration closing websites that publish scientific data. Which is not happening. There is "fear" that this "might" happen, due to the fact that Trump's administration is no longer publishing gender and diversity propaganda.

See how that works?

They take down "a teachers guide to working with elementary school transgirls" or some such, and next they will erase Newton's three laws.

I'm guessing that you didn't read the article?
As is often the case, you defend a difference that makes no difference and attribute things to the article that flat out were not said.

Off-line and deleted have the same practical effect.

Sites are going down daily...and access to that data is over.

Yes, data is being saved everyday.

DEI is hardly the bulk of this..a lot of Climate stuff, for example.

In recent weeks, Richards and her colleagues have archived datasets packed with information on US flood hazards, greenhouse gas emissions, energy production and environmental justice, among other subjects. Other researchers have recreated a tool that forecasts the risk of future climate hazards around the US.
The scramble to rescue at-risk data before it's too late continues apace. Richards says her organisation has received messages from around 400 would-be volunteers and they are currently "on-boarding" around 100 of them. Their work could help preserve data on everything from air quality to coral reefs.
Among the tools that the PEDP has replicated on its website is EJScreen, an environmental justice mapping service that reveals communities in the US that may be at heightened risk from environmental hazards such as air pollution. It was removed from the US Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA's) website in early February.
Climate data is often particularly challenging to work with given the huge size of certain datasets – vast stores of information about our planet that underpin climate models, or weather forecasting systems, for example. But this doesn't deter Richards. "This is taxpayer-funded research that was already paid for," she says. The BBC contacted the White House for a comment but did not receive a response by the time of publication.
Watching all of this unfold – in many cases in disbelief – are the scientists who worked to collect this data in the first place.
"I have never seen anything like this in nearly 40 years of doing science," says Paul Bierman, a geomorphologist at the University of Vermont. "I think it's an unmitigated disaster."

 

[Seymour Flops]

I'm guessing that you didn't read the article?
As is often the case, you defend a difference that makes no difference and attribute things to the article that flat out were not said.

Off-line and deleted have the same practical effect.

No, it doesn't. That's absurd. Come on Fleegle, think Man! You weren't this dumb in October.

If I take all my family pictures off of Facebook, I limit who has access to it. But I still have the pictures.

At least you admit that it isn't really being deleted. You frightened Creepy Tits badly. Please explain it to her.

Sites are going down daily...and access to that data is over.

Yes, data is being saved everyday.

DEI is hardly the bulk of this..a lot of Climate stuff, for example.

In recent weeks, Richards and her colleagues have archived datasets packed with information on US flood hazards, greenhouse gas emissions, energy production and environmental justice, among other subjects. Other researchers have recreated a tool that forecasts the risk of future climate hazards around the US.

The election was in early November. They had until January 10th to get the data on alternate sites, not controlled by the executive. If they feared it would "disappear." This is just the latest drama queenery.

The scramble to rescue at-risk data before it's too late continues apace. Richards says her organisation has received messages from around 400 would-be volunteers and they are currently "on-boarding" around 100 of them. Their work could help preserve data on everything from air quality to coral reefs.

Wow, so they are like ANTIFA, but in their parents' basements with computers!

Among the tools that the PEDP has replicated on its website is EJScreen, an environmental justice mapping service that reveals communities in the US that may be at heightened risk from environmental hazards such as air pollution. It was removed from the US Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA's) website in early February.
Climate data is often particularly challenging to work with given the huge size of certain datasets – vast stores of information about our planet that underpin climate models, or weather forecasting systems, for example. But this doesn't deter Richards. "This is taxpayer-funded research that was already paid for," she says. The BBC contacted the White House for a comment but did not receive a response by the time of publication.
Watching all of this unfold – in many cases in disbelief – are the scientists who worked to collect this data in the first place.
"I have never seen anything like this in nearly 40 years of doing science," says Paul Bierman, a geomorphologist at the University of Vermont. "I think it's an unmitigated disaster."

You guys make me laugh, thanks!

 

[1srelluc]

LOL....It could be worse:

I will erase even the memory of Sparta Dems from the histories. Every piece of Dem parchment shall be burned, and every dem historian and every dem scribe shall have their eyes put out and their tongues cut from their mouths!

 

[jackflash]

A quiet crisis..as scientists rush to save valuable data being deleted by the Visigoths currently running our country.

Inside the desperate rush to save decades of US scientific data from deletion

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.

www.bbc.com

Swathes of scientific data deletions are sweeping across US government websites – with decades of health, climate change and extreme weather research at risk. Now, scientists are racing to save their work before it's lost.
Some of them are in the US. Others are scattered around the world. There are hundreds, many even thousands of people involved across multiple networks. And they keep a damn close eye on their phones.
No one knows when the next alert or request to save a chunk of US government-held climate data will come in. Such data, long available online, keeps getting taken down by US President Donald Trump's administration. For the last six months or so, Cathy Richards has been entrenched in the response. She works for one of several organizations bent on downloading and archiving public data before it disappears.

This rush to safeguard vital environmental data is part of a broader movement to rescue all kinds of scientific data published online by the US government. Biomedical and health researchers working with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), for example, have been frantically searching for ways to back up important data following executive orders issued by Trump about what information on gender and diversity may be published by federal bodies.
Scientists have expressed fears about a wide range of resources that might go next – from historical weather records to data gathered by Nasa satellites. On 16 April, the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) announced that a list of datasets regarding ocean monitoring were now scheduled to be removed in early May.

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[Crepitus]

Nothing is being deleted.

Taking it off line does not equate with if being deleted.

The scientists doing the research seem to say differently.

and given tRump's limited relationship with the truth...

 

[Crepitus]

Think of it like Hitler burning books, only now it is electronically coded data, that can be deleted with a key stroke, instead of having a big fire at fahrenheit 451. If nobody knows, they cannot complain about, plan around, or forecast based on the accumulated knowledge. Knowledge is power, and this administration figure, to make the public, scientists, and acedemics as powerless as possible, and much easier to control, if they have nothing to back up what they say they have learned. Ignorance is bliss, saith the anti-science right wing.

That's scary as hell.