Inflation report, September 10 2025

[Mac1958]

Good news this morning: U.S. wholesale inflation rate fell in August even as upward price pressures persisted

So while supply chains are under pressure to increase prices, they've been able to absorb increased costs so far. There are two or three other things they may be doing as well, but right now supply chains are holding.

Also, if this holds, it would make it easier for the Fed to cut rates. Bessent wants to run this hot, so we'll see how this goes. Fingers crossed.

 

[Dekster]

Good news this morning: U.S. wholesale inflation rate fell in August even as upward price pressures persisted

So while supply chains are under pressure to increase prices, they've been able to absorb increased costs so far. There are two or three other things they may be doing as well, but right now supply chains are holding.

Also, if this holds, it would make it easier for the Fed to cut rates. Bessent wants to run this hot, so we'll see how this goes. Fingers crossed.

A lot will depend on how the SCOTUS comes down on tariffs late this year. I personally think they should say he exceeded his authority as it is fundamentally the same issue as the student loan ruling, but who knows with this court.

 

[Mac1958]

A lot will depend on how the SCOTUS comes down on tariffs late this year. I personally think they should say he exceeded his authority as it is fundamentally the same issue as the student loan ruling, but who knows with this court.

Yeah, nothing would be a shock.

I wish they could get to it more quickly.

 

[martybegan]

Yeah, nothing would be a shock.

I wish they could get to it more quickly.

Your wish is granted.

Hmmm: SCOTUS Expedites Trump Tariff Appeal

 

[Dekster]

Yeah, nothing would be a shock.

I wish they could get to it more quickly.

The real rub will be whether the US has to refund $1T in illegal tariffs if it goes against Trump.

 

[leftwinger]

The real rub will be whether the US has to refund $1T in illegal tariffs if it goes against Trump.

I dont get it? You expect the Court to eliminate any USA Tariffs? But you and the Courts OK with Tariffs on USA goods by other Countries?

Or you expect the Courts to set tariff rates? Install a cap? I voted for Trump policy to fix the issue. Not for Courts?

What is bottom line? Courts are to rule only Congress can act?

 

[Mac1958]

The real rub will be whether the US has to refund $1T in illegal tariffs if it goes against Trump.

Interestingly that money would be paid back to American businesses.

That would be a real mess.

 

[martybegan]

Interestingly that money would be paid back to American businesses.

That would be a real mess.

You mean foriegn businesses, right?

 

[Mac1958]

You mean foriegn businesses, right?

No.

 

[leftwinger]

The real rub will be whether the US has to refund $1T in illegal tariffs if it goes against Trump.

I dont get it? You expect the Court to eliminate any USA Tariffs? But you and the Courts OK with Tariffs on USA goods by other Countries?

Or you expect the Courts to set tariff rates? Install a cap? I voted for Trump policy to fix the issue. Not for Courts?

What is bottom line? Courts are to rule only Congress can act?

 

[Mac1958]

 

[Dekster]

Interestingly that money would be paid back to American businesses.

That would be a real mess.

A windfall they likely would not pass onto the customers I imagine.

 

[sealybobo]

Good news this morning: U.S. wholesale inflation rate fell in August even as upward price pressures persisted

So while supply chains are under pressure to increase prices, they've been able to absorb increased costs so far. There are two or three other things they may be doing as well, but right now supply chains are holding.

Also, if this holds, it would make it easier for the Fed to cut rates. Bessent wants to run this hot, so we'll see how this goes. Fingers crossed.

The company I buy from just raised their prices in August. Tariff 10%. This price increase hasn't made it to you yet.

You know what I'm seeing a lot of? I'm seeing a lot of news stories about how to deal with a tough economy. Or how to deal with higher prices. Or how to save a little more if you are struggling. These are news stories you hear when prices are going up and people are struggling to pay rent. Come on dude. The economy is struggling and it's going to get worse. Don't deny it's struggling. You can say it's going to get better in 2 years but don't deny the economy is struggling. And now we have to lower interest rates because Trump's tariffs fucked up the economy. Which will lead to inflation.

Let's not forget what Trump said last year:

Trump thundered. “If Kamala wins, you are three days away from the start of a 1929 style economic depression. I believe that.”

But, “if I win, you are three days away from the best jobs, the biggest paychecks, the brightest economic future that the world has ever seen,” Trump reassured.

 

[Mac1958]

The company I buy from just raised their prices in August. Tariff 10%. This price increase hasn't made it to you yet.

You know what I'm seeing a lot of? I'm seeing a lot of news stories about how to deal with a tough economy. Or how to deal with higher prices. Or how to save a little more if you are struggling. These are news stories you hear when prices are going up and people are struggling to pay rent. Come on dude. The economy is struggling and it's going to get worse. Don't deny it's struggling. You can say it's going to get better in 2 years but don't deny the economy is struggling. And now we have to lower interest rates because Trump's tariffs fucked up the economy. Which will lead to inflation.

Let's not forget what Trump said last year:

Trump thundered. “If Kamala wins, you are three days away from the start of a 1929 style economic depression. I believe that.”

But, “if I win, you are three days away from the best jobs, the biggest paychecks, the brightest economic future that the world has ever seen,” Trump reassured.

Yeah, the last reports I saw were that the tariffs had not fully worked their way through supply chains yet. Hopefully we'll have a better picture by mid October's reports.

There are things that companies can do to mitigate this (some aren't very positive), but there's only so much. Whatever it is, if it's not good, there's no stopping it now.

 

[Care4all]

I dont get it? You expect the Court to eliminate any USA Tariffs? But you and the Courts OK with Tariffs on USA goods by other Countries?

Or you expect the Courts to set tariff rates? Install a cap? I voted for Trump policy to fix the issue. Not for Courts?

What is bottom line? Courts are to rule only Congress can act?

The court will never eliminate any legal tariff.

Trump knew before he began, that he needed a vote from congress giving him leeway to negotiate tariffs....

Under the constitution, ONLY CONGRESS can levy tariffs. Tariffs are a tax on Americans. There is no taxation without representation in the constitution and one reason we fought a Revolution.

Trump tried to do this negotiation his first term and asked Congress for permission and they denied him.

So this Presidency, Trump simply didn't bother to ask Congress....and defied the Constitution with a made up cause.... Mike Johnson helped him, by CROOKEDLY preventing the Congressional vote from taking place because Johnson knew both repubs and dems would once again vote against giving him untethered tariff power.

Once the President made the emergency claim to tariff power, Congress is suppose to vote on whether it is an emergency and whether to give him that tariff power, within a very short period, like 10 Congressional days after the President declares the Emergency power.

Mike Johnson did some funny business and claimed all days of Congress until the end of the year, IS JUST 1 DAY of Congress.....so when that ends they have 9 days left to vote on giving or not giving Trump the emergency power.

By doing this it gave Trump like 10 months to issue tariffs and bully the world...so that when it came time for Congress to vote on this, once that 10 month DAY 1 was over, Congress would be more likely to give trump the power because it would be near impossible to give all the tariffed money collected back.

Well people and States sued immediately saying it broke our constitution and won their cases and Trump appealed, and Trump lost on appeals, but earlier this year the supreme court ruled the courts can't put injunctions to stop the wrong... only the SC....

Now it has reached the Supreme court.

We have THE WORST CONGRESS EVER! And are in this mess because they refuse to do their jobs.

In Congress, a Day Can Last Months if Politics Demands It

House Republicans are so intent on avoiding tough votes on President Trump’s tariffs that they have rewritten the calendar.

www.nytimes.com

In Congress, a Day Can Last Months if Politics Demands It​

House Republicans are so intent on avoiding tough votes on President Trump’s tariffs that they have rewritten the calendar.

What if you could prolong today to avoid making an uncomfortable decision tomorrow?

For most human beings, that’s not possible. But in the alternate reality that is Congress, which operates according to its own arcane rules and precedents and is exempt from the statutes that bind the rest of us, a day can be as long or short as the laws of political gravity demand.

That is how it came to pass that House Republicans in recent weeks declared the rest of the year one long day when it came to considering a challenge to President Trump’s tariffs. They would prefer to avoid votes on whether to scrap the levies, but the law says the House must consider them within a set period of time.

The obvious solution? Stop time.

 

[my2¢]

The Producer Price Index for final demand edged down 0.1 percent in August. Prices for final demand services declined 0.2 percent, and the index for final demand goods rose 0.1 percent. On an unadjusted basis, the index for final demand advanced 2.6 percent for the 12 months ended in August.

This is the first time I've ever taken a look at the Producer Price Index report; due to my lack of understanding I'm not drawing any conclusion from it.

On the other hand, the basis on how I'll view inflation rests on tomorrow morning's Consumer Price Index. It certainly would be nice to have good news there.

 

[sealybobo]

Yeah, the last reports I saw were that the tariffs had not fully worked their way through supply chains yet. Hopefully we'll have a better picture by mid October's reports.

There are things that companies can do to mitigate this (some aren't very positive), but there's only so much. Whatever it is, if it's not good, there's no stopping it now.

Remember Trump drove India into China and Russia's arms. Then Trump apologized to India. Did he save the deal? The ******* art of the deal. It's going to make him a lot of money. The rest of us? Not so much. But the more I see of our society, I think we all deserve what we are getting. Every man for himself.

 

[Mac1958]

Remember Trump drove India into China and Russia's arms. Then Trump apologized to India. Did he save the deal? The ******* art of the deal. It's going to make him a lot of money. The rest of us? Not so much. But the more I see of our society, I think we all deserve what we are getting. Every man for himself.

His "art of the deal" was to simply maul people, borrow money off of fake numbers, sue everything that moved, and stiff vendors. It's based on his profound insecurities and lack of intellect or morality.

Evidently that can work in certain commercial real estate markets, but not when dealing with world leaders. Even the Europeans who have to play nice with him now are making other plans.

I don't remember ever seeing an important country fall this quickly, let alone us.

 

[sealybobo]

His "art of the deal" was to simply maul people, borrow money off of fake numbers, sue everything that moved and stiff vendors. It's based on his profound insecurities and lack of intellect & morality.

Evidently that can work in certain commercial real estate markets, but not when dealing with world leaders. Even the Europeans who have to play nice with him now are making other plans.

I don't remember ever seeing an important country fall this quickly, let alone us.

The country will survive. As the middle class and poor get poorer, the rich will get richer. They'll say things like this:

From 2025-2028, the median net worth of American families jumped 37% to $192,900, after adjusting for inflation. It’s the largest increase ever recorded by the federal Survey of Consumer Finances, released last fall. Surging home values and rising stock ownership fed the surge.

Some of the new numbers are startling. Average household net worth now tops $500,000 for Americans in their late 30s. For late-40-somethings, it exceeds $750,000. For 50-somethings, it reaches seven figures.

What they won't tell you is Those numbers are averages, and the super-rich drive them waaaay up.

The “median” American household – picture the middle number in a long list of numbers – achieves a net worth of about $300,000 in the 50-to-59 age range, a far cry from $1 million.

These numbers are from 2019 to 2022. Under Biden. Notice they didn't give Biden credit? When we are in charge a good stock market and your home value increasing are bad things. It makes you an elitist. But if this happens under Trump, they'll just leave out that the super rich drive these numbers way up.

What about people who pay rent they would say!

Actually, Trump might call a housing crisis and try to do something about unaffordable housing. I heard the other day. God help us.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Yeah, the last reports I saw were that the tariffs had not fully worked their way through supply chains yet. Hopefully we'll have a better picture by mid October's reports.

There are things that companies can do to mitigate this (some aren't very positive), but there's only so much. Whatever it is, if it's not good, there's no stopping it now.

Supply chains have raised their prices every year since the Covid overeaction.
Despite what you all hope, wholesale prices have not really been affected, just a fact. They have not went up or down in any significant way.