In regard of holding Israel by double standards

[P F Tinmore]

Israel is blockading Gaza, the Palestinians have every right to try to force Israel to remove the land, sea and air blockade. If you steal $100 and return $25, it is still theft.

How is launching rockets going to get Israel to leave the West Bank ? The 'occupation' is just an excuse to attack Israel.
When has attacking Israel ever done good for the Palestinians?

There are no rockets from the West Bank and Israel is in their eating it up.

Hamas will not let Israel in Gaza.

If Israel wanted to control gaza they could in an instant by carpet bombing the leaders homes. There are no rockets from the west bank because the IDF have tight controls on the land.

Indeed, and Hamas will not let Israel into Gaza.

Start @ 6:00 will tell the story.

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

 

[toastman]

How is launching rockets going to get Israel to leave the West Bank ? The 'occupation' is just an excuse to attack Israel.
When has attacking Israel ever done good for the Palestinians?

There are no rockets from the West Bank and Israel is in their eating it up.

Hamas will not let Israel in Gaza.

If Israel wanted to control gaza they could in an instant by carpet bombing the leaders homes. There are no rockets from the west bank because the IDF have tight controls on the land.

Indeed, and Hamas will not let Israel into Gaza.

Start @ 6:00 will tell the story.

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

 

[P F Tinmore]

There are no rockets from the West Bank and Israel is in their eating it up.

Hamas will not let Israel in Gaza.

If Israel wanted to control gaza they could in an instant by carpet bombing the leaders homes. There are no rockets from the west bank because the IDF have tight controls on the land.

Indeed, and Hamas will not let Israel into Gaza.

Start @ 6:00 will tell the story.

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Israel lost 66 soldiers and another 400-700 were wounded depending on the source.

Then the IDF went back into hiding.

 

[Phoenall]

How is launching rockets going to get Israel to leave the West Bank ? The 'occupation' is just an excuse to attack Israel.
When has attacking Israel ever done good for the Palestinians?

There are no rockets from the West Bank and Israel is in their eating it up.

Hamas will not let Israel in Gaza.

If Israel wanted to control gaza they could in an instant by carpet bombing the leaders homes. There are no rockets from the west bank because the IDF have tight controls on the land.

Indeed, and Hamas will not let Israel into Gaza.

Start @ 6:00 will tell the story.

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

But not hiding behind women and children like hamas do. This is why they managed to infiltrate and destroy the Tunnels

 

[Phoenall]

If Israel wanted to control gaza they could in an instant by carpet bombing the leaders homes. There are no rockets from the west bank because the IDF have tight controls on the land.

Indeed, and Hamas will not let Israel into Gaza.

Start @ 6:00 will tell the story.

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Israel lost 66 soldiers and another 400-700 were wounded depending on the source.

Then the IDF went back into hiding.

And hamas lost 90% of its weapons, over 2000 fighters and much of its infrastructure

 

[P F Tinmore]

There are no rockets from the West Bank and Israel is in their eating it up.

Hamas will not let Israel in Gaza.

If Israel wanted to control gaza they could in an instant by carpet bombing the leaders homes. There are no rockets from the west bank because the IDF have tight controls on the land.

Indeed, and Hamas will not let Israel into Gaza.

Start @ 6:00 will tell the story.

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

But not hiding behind women and children like hamas do. This is why they managed to infiltrate and destroy the Tunnels

While the Israeli government repeatedly stated that many civilian casualties were the result of Hamas using the Gazan population as human shields[392] several British media organizations (including The Guardian, and The Independent) dismissed such claims as "myths"[393][394] and the BBC's Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen likewise said he "saw no evidence of Hamas using Palestinians as human shields."[395] Additionally the London-based NGO, Amnesty International, dismissed such claims, stated it was unable to verify them and emphasized that even if they were true the IDF would still have a responsibility to protect civilians.[46][396]

2014 Israel Gaza conflict - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia​

IOW, Israeli bullshit.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed, and Hamas will not let Israel into Gaza.

Start @ 6:00 will tell the story.

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Israel lost 66 soldiers and another 400-700 were wounded depending on the source.

Then the IDF went back into hiding.

And hamas lost 90% of its weapons, over 2000 fighters and much of its infrastructure

Link?

 

[Phoenall]

If Israel wanted to control gaza they could in an instant by carpet bombing the leaders homes. There are no rockets from the west bank because the IDF have tight controls on the land.

Indeed, and Hamas will not let Israel into Gaza.

Start @ 6:00 will tell the story.

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

But not hiding behind women and children like hamas do. This is why they managed to infiltrate and destroy the Tunnels

While the Israeli government repeatedly stated that many civilian casualties were the result of Hamas using the Gazan population as human shields[392] several British media organizations (including The Guardian, and The Independent) dismissed such claims as "myths"[393][394] and the BBC's Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen likewise said he "saw no evidence of Hamas using Palestinians as human shields."[395] Additionally the London-based NGO, Amnesty International, dismissed such claims, stated it was unable to verify them and emphasized that even if they were true the IDF would still have a responsibility to protect civilians.[46][396]

2014 Israel Gaza conflict - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia​

IOW, Israeli bullshit.

Until pallywood pictures started to come out of human shields being used, and then the video's of hamas leaders stating that they do use human shields,

 

[Phoenall]

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Israel lost 66 soldiers and another 400-700 were wounded depending on the source.

Then the IDF went back into hiding.

And hamas lost 90% of its weapons, over 2000 fighters and much of its infrastructure

Link?

Your own reports that you have posted, do you do a monte and only read what your imam tells you.

 

[montelatici]

There are no rockets from the West Bank and Israel is in their eating it up.

Hamas will not let Israel in Gaza.

If Israel wanted to control gaza they could in an instant by carpet bombing the leaders homes. There are no rockets from the west bank because the IDF have tight controls on the land.

Indeed, and Hamas will not let Israel into Gaza.

Start @ 6:00 will tell the story.

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Come on. F16s, tanks, warships against some very brave men with hand weapons. Who do you think would "kick ass"? It's like the Jews fighting the Nazis in Warsaw. Who do you think "kicked ass".

 

[toastman]

If Israel wanted to control gaza they could in an instant by carpet bombing the leaders homes. There are no rockets from the west bank because the IDF have tight controls on the land.

Indeed, and Hamas will not let Israel into Gaza.

Start @ 6:00 will tell the story.

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Come on. F16s, tanks, warships against some very brave men with hand weapons. Who do you think would "kick ass"? It's like the Jews fighting the Nazis in Warsaw. Who do you think "kicked ass".

Again with the Nazi comparison?

You think Hamas are brave men ?

 

[montelatici]

Indeed, and Hamas will not let Israel into Gaza.

Start @ 6:00 will tell the story.

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Come on. F16s, tanks, warships against some very brave men with hand weapons. Who do you think would "kick ass"? It's like the Jews fighting the Nazis in Warsaw. Who do you think "kicked ass".

Again with the Nazi comparison?

You think Hamas are brave men ?

Would you fight against armor, field artillery and an opponent with 4-5 times the number of troops you are part of? Have you ever been in combat?

 

[toastman]

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Come on. F16s, tanks, warships against some very brave men with hand weapons. Who do you think would "kick ass"? It's like the Jews fighting the Nazis in Warsaw. Who do you think "kicked ass".

Again with the Nazi comparison?

You think Hamas are brave men ?

Would you fight against armor, field artillery and an opponent with 4-5 times the number of troops you are part of? Have you ever been in combat?

Brave men don't send their own people to blow themselves up. Brave men don't use kids to dig tunnels for them. Brave men don't attack a country like Israel, knowing that their own civilians would die from return fire. Brave men don't hide in civilian buildings.

Hamas are the epitome of cowards. You think they fought because they are brave ? They had no choice, just like the IDF soldiers didn't. I can only imagine what the Hamas leadership would do if a Hamas militant refused to fight.

 

[montelatici]

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Come on. F16s, tanks, warships against some very brave men with hand weapons. Who do you think would "kick ass"? It's like the Jews fighting the Nazis in Warsaw. Who do you think "kicked ass".

Again with the Nazi comparison?

You think Hamas are brave men ?

Would you fight against armor, field artillery and an opponent with 4-5 times the number of troops you are part of? Have you ever been in combat?

Brave men don't send their own people to blow themselves up. Brave men don't use kids to dig tunnels for them. Brave men don't attack a country like Israel, knowing that their own civilians would die from return fire. Brave men don't hide in civilian buildings.

Hamas are the epitome of cowards. You think they fought because they are brave ? They had no choice, just like the IDF soldiers didn't. I can only imagine what the Hamas leadership would do if a Hamas militant refused to fight.

Of course they are brave men. They are fighting against the odds. It takes courage to do that. The Viet Cong used children and women as suicide bombers. The women would sometimes be women we had seen at the PX working there so they would be allowed to approach a gathering of troops. The Viet Cong also used kids to dig tunnels. I may have hated them and may have wanted to kill as many as possible, but the Viet Cong were brave men.

 

[toastman]

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Come on. F16s, tanks, warships against some very brave men with hand weapons. Who do you think would "kick ass"? It's like the Jews fighting the Nazis in Warsaw. Who do you think "kicked ass".

Again with the Nazi comparison?

You think Hamas are brave men ?

Would you fight against armor, field artillery and an opponent with 4-5 times the number of troops you are part of? Have you ever been in combat?

Brave men don't send their own people to blow themselves up. Brave men don't use kids to dig tunnels for them. Brave men don't attack a country like Israel, knowing that their own civilians would die from return fire. Brave men don't hide in civilian buildings.

Hamas are the epitome of cowards. You think they fought because they are brave ? They had no choice, just like the IDF soldiers didn't. I can only imagine what the Hamas leadership would do if a Hamas militant refused to fight.

Of course they are brave men. They are fighting against the odds. It takes courage to do that. The Viet Cong used children and women as suicide bombers. The women would sometimes be women we had seen at the PX working there so they would be allowed to approach a gathering of troops. The Viet Cong also used kids to dig tunnels. I may have hated them and may have wanted to kill as many as possible, but the Viet Cong were brave men.

You obviously didn't understand my post.

 

[montelatici]

Come on. F16s, tanks, warships against some very brave men with hand weapons. Who do you think would "kick ass"? It's like the Jews fighting the Nazis in Warsaw. Who do you think "kicked ass".

Again with the Nazi comparison?

You think Hamas are brave men ?

Would you fight against armor, field artillery and an opponent with 4-5 times the number of troops you are part of? Have you ever been in combat?

Brave men don't send their own people to blow themselves up. Brave men don't use kids to dig tunnels for them. Brave men don't attack a country like Israel, knowing that their own civilians would die from return fire. Brave men don't hide in civilian buildings.

Hamas are the epitome of cowards. You think they fought because they are brave ? They had no choice, just like the IDF soldiers didn't. I can only imagine what the Hamas leadership would do if a Hamas militant refused to fight.

Of course they are brave men. They are fighting against the odds. It takes courage to do that. The Viet Cong used children and women as suicide bombers. The women would sometimes be women we had seen at the PX working there so they would be allowed to approach a gathering of troops. The Viet Cong also used kids to dig tunnels. I may have hated them and may have wanted to kill as many as possible, but the Viet Cong were brave men.

You obviously didn't understand my post.

Of course I understood. You are claiming that the Palestinian fighting men are cowards for a number of reasons some propaganda some half truths. I pointed out to you that national liberation movements have to use (and have used) the tactics available to them against a much more powerful opponent. The Palestinians are probably less aggressive than the Viet Cong were,

 

[toastman]

Again with the Nazi comparison?

You think Hamas are brave men ?

Would you fight against armor, field artillery and an opponent with 4-5 times the number of troops you are part of? Have you ever been in combat?

Brave men don't send their own people to blow themselves up. Brave men don't use kids to dig tunnels for them. Brave men don't attack a country like Israel, knowing that their own civilians would die from return fire. Brave men don't hide in civilian buildings.

Hamas are the epitome of cowards. You think they fought because they are brave ? They had no choice, just like the IDF soldiers didn't. I can only imagine what the Hamas leadership would do if a Hamas militant refused to fight.

Of course they are brave men. They are fighting against the odds. It takes courage to do that. The Viet Cong used children and women as suicide bombers. The women would sometimes be women we had seen at the PX working there so they would be allowed to approach a gathering of troops. The Viet Cong also used kids to dig tunnels. I may have hated them and may have wanted to kill as many as possible, but the Viet Cong were brave men.

You obviously didn't understand my post.

Of course I understood. You are claiming that the Palestinian fighting men are cowards for a number of reasons some propaganda some half truths. I pointed out to you that national liberation movements have to use (and have used) the tactics available to them against a much more powerful opponent. The Palestinians are probably less aggressive than the Viet Cong were,

What did I say that was propaganda?

 

[montelatici]

Would you fight against armor, field artillery and an opponent with 4-5 times the number of troops you are part of? Have you ever been in combat?

Brave men don't send their own people to blow themselves up. Brave men don't use kids to dig tunnels for them. Brave men don't attack a country like Israel, knowing that their own civilians would die from return fire. Brave men don't hide in civilian buildings.

Hamas are the epitome of cowards. You think they fought because they are brave ? They had no choice, just like the IDF soldiers didn't. I can only imagine what the Hamas leadership would do if a Hamas militant refused to fight.

Of course they are brave men. They are fighting against the odds. It takes courage to do that. The Viet Cong used children and women as suicide bombers. The women would sometimes be women we had seen at the PX working there so they would be allowed to approach a gathering of troops. The Viet Cong also used kids to dig tunnels. I may have hated them and may have wanted to kill as many as possible, but the Viet Cong were brave men.

You obviously didn't understand my post.

Of course I understood. You are claiming that the Palestinian fighting men are cowards for a number of reasons some propaganda some half truths. I pointed out to you that national liberation movements have to use (and have used) the tactics available to them against a much more powerful opponent. The Palestinians are probably less aggressive than the Viet Cong were,

What did I say that was propaganda?

That the Palestinians use their children as human shields,

 

[Phoenall]

So the IDF did not destroy tunnels leading from gaza last summer, or was that a figment of everyones imagination.

You do realise that you have just destroyed another BLOOD LIBEL and one of your own claims ......................

And Israel went in hiding in tanks and armored bulldozers so the Hamas could not continue to kick their ass.

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Come on. F16s, tanks, warships against some very brave men with hand weapons. Who do you think would "kick ass"? It's like the Jews fighting the Nazis in Warsaw. Who do you think "kicked ass".

Again with the Nazi comparison?

You think Hamas are brave men ?

Would you fight against armor, field artillery and an opponent with 4-5 times the number of troops you are part of? Have you ever been in combat?

Irrelevant when you see the methods employed by hamas to wipe out the Jews. Maybe it is time for the IDF to start digging tunnels into gaza under schools and priming them with H.E. then when hamas detonates one of theirs Israel detonates ten. That is proportionality in evidence and will make the Palestinians understand what is to happen in the future.

 

[Phoenall]

Oh ya, really kicked their ass

Come on. F16s, tanks, warships against some very brave men with hand weapons. Who do you think would "kick ass"? It's like the Jews fighting the Nazis in Warsaw. Who do you think "kicked ass".

Again with the Nazi comparison?

You think Hamas are brave men ?

Would you fight against armor, field artillery and an opponent with 4-5 times the number of troops you are part of? Have you ever been in combat?

Brave men don't send their own people to blow themselves up. Brave men don't use kids to dig tunnels for them. Brave men don't attack a country like Israel, knowing that their own civilians would die from return fire. Brave men don't hide in civilian buildings.

Hamas are the epitome of cowards. You think they fought because they are brave ? They had no choice, just like the IDF soldiers didn't. I can only imagine what the Hamas leadership would do if a Hamas militant refused to fight.

Of course they are brave men. They are fighting against the odds. It takes courage to do that. The Viet Cong used children and women as suicide bombers. The women would sometimes be women we had seen at the PX working there so they would be allowed to approach a gathering of troops. The Viet Cong also used kids to dig tunnels. I may have hated them and may have wanted to kill as many as possible, but the Viet Cong were brave men.

They are bigger cowards than the Italians are, and hide behind civilians all the time. Over 50% of gaza is open country yet the hamas terrorists refuse to fight from there as they will get shot. So they hide in hospitals, schools, mosques and civilian areas rather than face a weaker numerically force because they don't have the odds in their favour. Unless they have in excess of 10 to 1 odds in their favour they wont come out and fight.