Mertex
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And you would rather that Iran be left to continue working on a nuclear weapon? What's so damn good about that? Not only is your head flat, it has been rolled into a taco.
I'm curious: are repubs dumb enough to think Iran would roll over and do whatever the West wants?
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And you would rather that Iran be left to continue working on a nuclear weapon? What's so damn good about that? Not only is your head flat, it has been rolled into a taco.
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Exactly what will happen without a treaty.
Mertex
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What Amendment did Reagan violate? How did he go against Congress on inauguration day. Are you drunk so early in the day?Because Regan went against Congress and an Amendment he signed himself and disregarded the Constitution you all claim to love so much. So, what is Trump going to do for Iran?
Oh, and the last statement bolded in red....you all have the audacity to be whining about Hillary's e-mails......
Wiki:
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ایران-کنترا‎, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several US hostages, and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.
And, as usual, Republicans continue to against the will of the people of the United States.
Although the President continued to favor support of the contras, opinion polls indicated that a majority of the public was not supportive.
Iran Contra Committee Key Findings
Do you have trouble reading? I posted the Wiki explanation for you. Reagan was wheeling and dealing before election day, and negotiating with terrorists....something the GOP accuses Obama of doing when clearly he's not, but hypocritical because Reagan did negotiate with terrorists and the GOP looked the other way.
Here it is again....have someone explain it to you.
Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several US hostages, and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
Yeah and asswipe Obama couldn't secure the release of four American hostages held for absolutely no reason, in exchange for $150 billion and lifting of sanction. Talk about total incompetence!
Yeah, Obama was able to go after and get Osama Bin Ladin.....after your doofus President, who went after the wrong country claimed he wasn't interested in getting him.....this after OBL was responsible for over 3000 deaths.....talk about incompetence. (Oh, and add another 4000+ that we lost due to his incompetence in going after the wrong country.)
Ha ha ha. "Obama was able to go after and get Bin Laden". When all else fails divert the subject to something Obama had absolutely nothing to do with.
You're such an idiot. Of course Obama had something to do with it....he could have done like Doofus Bush and claimed he wasn't concerned with him - but he didn't. You're just butt hurt because your Republican President has taken the "dummy" award.
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You keep repeating it.....I'm sure in time you'll believe it yourself.
The "no deal" is what your Republican leaders are offering......because they would rather spend money on another war and sacrifice more of our young men and women then to try agreeing with Obama for once. They have been a total waste of taxpayer money......it's no wonder Republicans in Congress have the lowest approval rating of all.
Turning to the job performances of the Republicans and Democrats in Congress, fewer than one in five registered voters nationally, 19%, approves of how the Republicans in Congress are doing their job. This is the lowest job approval rating the congressional GOP has received since the McClatchy-Marist Poll has been tracking this question, and it is a drop from 33% measured in the last McClatchy-Marist Poll in March. The decreased level of satisfaction is due, in large part, to Republicans. There has been a 24 point drop in the proportion of the GOP faithful who approve of how the congressional Republicans are doing their job.
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-con...nal Tables_Obama and Congress_August 2015.pdf
Mertex
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Bwahahaha.....so you are claiming that "The American Conservative" - a conservative source would actually make up a fraud poll and go against it's own party?
You're stupider than I thought you were.
Mertex
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Show me the time line.What Amendment did Reagan violate? How did he go against Congress on inauguration day. Are you drunk so early in the day?Why would Trump fail when Reagan got them to fold on inauguration day?They think Trump will scare them into doing what he demands........
Because Regan went against Congress and an Amendment he signed himself and disregarded the Constitution you all claim to love so much. So, what is Trump going to do for Iran?
Oh, and the last statement bolded in red....you all have the audacity to be whining about Hillary's e-mails......
Wiki:
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ایران-کنترا‎, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several US hostages, and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.
And, as usual, Republicans continue to against the will of the people of the United States.
Although the President continued to favor support of the contras, opinion polls indicated that a majority of the public was not supportive.
Iran Contra Committee Key Findings
Do you have trouble reading? I posted the Wiki explanation for you. Reagan was wheeling and dealing before election day, and negotiating with terrorists....something the GOP accuses Obama of doing when clearly he's not, but hypocritical because Reagan did negotiate with terrorists and the GOP looked the other way.
Here it is again....have someone explain it to you.
Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several US hostages, and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
First, it didn't happen on Inauguration day, like you claim. Second, are you unable to Google or are you just deflecting?
The only way that Reagan was able to get Iran to release the hostages was by "negotiating with terrorists" after he said he wouldn't do that, and by selling them weapons, something that Congress had voted against.
Now, quit bragging about crap that you don't have the facts on unless you are able to back it up with links.
On July 1, 1985, the New York Times quoted President Ronald Reagan: “The United States gives terrorists no rewards. We make no concessions, we make no deals.” However, in August 1985, McFarlane visited Reagan in the hospital, where he was recovering from abdominal surgery, to talk about the deal in the works. The President approved the plan to allow Israel to sell approximately 100 American-made TOW antitank missiles to Iran, seeing it as a chance to improve relations with Iran and to gain the release of hostages. Israel would send Iran some of their American-made TOW missiles. In exchange, the Iranians would release some, if not all, of the American hostages that they held. The U.S. would also send Israel replacement TOW missiles so that its arsenal would not be depleted. It is not entirely clear what was said during this discussion, as both Reagan and McFarlane have given varying accounts. However, soon after, the plan was put into motion. Iran, represented by Ghorbanifar, and Israel, represented by Kimche and Nimrodi, worked out the details of the plan.
Shipments Begin
On August 20, the first load of 96 missiles was sent to Iran from Israel, with Ghorbanifar and Khashoggi acting as financial intermediates. However, no release of hostages followed. According to Ghobanifar, there had been a mix-up, but the hostages would be released if more missiles were sent, which Iran would pay for. President Reagan signed off on the second shipment from Israel, which consisted of 408 TOW missiles. On September 15, the day after the shipment arrived in Iran, Benjamin Weir, an American hostage, was released. It was at this point that Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, the “principal action officer” for the NSC’s Contra dealings, was brought into the Iran dealings when McFarlane put him in charge of working with Kimche to figure out the logistics of getting Weir from Lebanon to the U.S. Though the very few people in the U.S. aware of the plan were angry that only one hostage had been released in exchange for 500 TOWs, McFarlane and others recognized other benefits they stood to gain from the trade. Additionally, all of the money transfers were being conducted by independent intermediaries––like Ghorbanifar and Khashoggi—instead of governments, which allowed for a great deal of flexibility. They were also determined to secure the release of more hostages.
Understanding the Iran-Contra Affairs - The Iran-Contra Affairs
The first inauguration of Ronald Reagan as the 40th President of the United States was held on January 20, 1981.
The second inauguration of Ronald Reagan as the 40th President of the United States was held privately on January 20, 1985 and publicly on January 21, 1985.
Wyatt earp
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Yup a fool is born every second, that's what they said about Clinton's North Korea deal... How did that work out clown?
Ernie S.
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On Jan. 20, 1981, Iran released 52 Americans who had been held hostage for 444 days, minutes after the presidency had passed from Jimmy Carter to Ronald Reagan. The hostages were placed on a plane in Tehran as Reagan delivered his inaugural address.Show me the time line.What Amendment did Reagan violate? How did he go against Congress on inauguration day. Are you drunk so early in the day?
Because Regan went against Congress and an Amendment he signed himself and disregarded the Constitution you all claim to love so much. So, what is Trump going to do for Iran?
Oh, and the last statement bolded in red....you all have the audacity to be whining about Hillary's e-mails......
Wiki:
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ایران-کنترا‎, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several US hostages, and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.
And, as usual, Republicans continue to against the will of the people of the United States.
Although the President continued to favor support of the contras, opinion polls indicated that a majority of the public was not supportive.
Iran Contra Committee Key Findings
Do you have trouble reading? I posted the Wiki explanation for you. Reagan was wheeling and dealing before election day, and negotiating with terrorists....something the GOP accuses Obama of doing when clearly he's not, but hypocritical because Reagan did negotiate with terrorists and the GOP looked the other way.
Here it is again....have someone explain it to you.
Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several US hostages, and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
First, it didn't happen on Inauguration day, like you claim. Second, are you unable to Google or are you just deflecting?
The only way that Reagan was able to get Iran to release the hostages was by "negotiating with terrorists" after he said he wouldn't do that, and by selling them weapons, something that Congress had voted against.
Now, quit bragging about crap that you don't have the facts on unless you are able to back it up with links.
On July 1, 1985, the New York Times quoted President Ronald Reagan: “The United States gives terrorists no rewards. We make no concessions, we make no deals.” However, in August 1985, McFarlane visited Reagan in the hospital, where he was recovering from abdominal surgery, to talk about the deal in the works. The President approved the plan to allow Israel to sell approximately 100 American-made TOW antitank missiles to Iran, seeing it as a chance to improve relations with Iran and to gain the release of hostages. Israel would send Iran some of their American-made TOW missiles. In exchange, the Iranians would release some, if not all, of the American hostages that they held. The U.S. would also send Israel replacement TOW missiles so that its arsenal would not be depleted. It is not entirely clear what was said during this discussion, as both Reagan and McFarlane have given varying accounts. However, soon after, the plan was put into motion. Iran, represented by Ghorbanifar, and Israel, represented by Kimche and Nimrodi, worked out the details of the plan.
Shipments Begin
On August 20, the first load of 96 missiles was sent to Iran from Israel, with Ghorbanifar and Khashoggi acting as financial intermediates. However, no release of hostages followed. According to Ghobanifar, there had been a mix-up, but the hostages would be released if more missiles were sent, which Iran would pay for. President Reagan signed off on the second shipment from Israel, which consisted of 408 TOW missiles. On September 15, the day after the shipment arrived in Iran, Benjamin Weir, an American hostage, was released. It was at this point that Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, the “principal action officer” for the NSC’s Contra dealings, was brought into the Iran dealings when McFarlane put him in charge of working with Kimche to figure out the logistics of getting Weir from Lebanon to the U.S. Though the very few people in the U.S. aware of the plan were angry that only one hostage had been released in exchange for 500 TOWs, McFarlane and others recognized other benefits they stood to gain from the trade. Additionally, all of the money transfers were being conducted by independent intermediaries––like Ghorbanifar and Khashoggi—instead of governments, which allowed for a great deal of flexibility. They were also determined to secure the release of more hostages.
Understanding the Iran-Contra Affairs - The Iran-Contra Affairs
The first inauguration of Ronald Reagan as the 40th President of the United States was held on January 20, 1981.
The second inauguration of Ronald Reagan as the 40th President of the United States was held privately on January 20, 1985 and publicly on January 21, 1985.
http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2...merican-hostages-as-reagan-takes-office/?_r=0
Ernie S.
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OOOPS
Wyatt earp
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Show me the time line.What Amendment did Reagan violate? How did he go against Congress on inauguration day. Are you drunk so early in the day?
Because Regan went against Congress and an Amendment he signed himself and disregarded the Constitution you all claim to love so much. So, what is Trump going to do for Iran?
Oh, and the last statement bolded in red....you all have the audacity to be whining about Hillary's e-mails......
Wiki:
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ایران-کنترا‎, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several US hostages, and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.
And, as usual, Republicans continue to against the will of the people of the United States.
Although the President continued to favor support of the contras, opinion polls indicated that a majority of the public was not supportive.
Iran Contra Committee Key Findings
Do you have trouble reading? I posted the Wiki explanation for you. Reagan was wheeling and dealing before election day, and negotiating with terrorists....something the GOP accuses Obama of doing when clearly he's not, but hypocritical because Reagan did negotiate with terrorists and the GOP looked the other way.
Here it is again....have someone explain it to you.
Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several US hostages, and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
First, it didn't happen on Inauguration day, like you claim. Second, are you unable to Google or are you just deflecting?
The only way that Reagan was able to get Iran to release the hostages was by "negotiating with terrorists" after he said he wouldn't do that, and by selling them weapons, something that Congress had voted against.
Now, quit bragging about crap that you don't have the facts on unless you are able to back it up with links.
On July 1, 1985, the New York Times quoted President Ronald Reagan: “The United States gives terrorists no rewards. We make no concessions, we make no deals.” However, in August 1985, McFarlane visited Reagan in the hospital, where he was recovering from abdominal surgery, to talk about the deal in the works. The President approved the plan to allow Israel to sell approximately 100 American-made TOW antitank missiles to Iran, seeing it as a chance to improve relations with Iran and to gain the release of hostages. Israel would send Iran some of their American-made TOW missiles. In exchange, the Iranians would release some, if not all, of the American hostages that they held. The U.S. would also send Israel replacement TOW missiles so that its arsenal would not be depleted. It is not entirely clear what was said during this discussion, as both Reagan and McFarlane have given varying accounts. However, soon after, the plan was put into motion. Iran, represented by Ghorbanifar, and Israel, represented by Kimche and Nimrodi, worked out the details of the plan.
Shipments Begin
On August 20, the first load of 96 missiles was sent to Iran from Israel, with Ghorbanifar and Khashoggi acting as financial intermediates. However, no release of hostages followed. According to Ghobanifar, there had been a mix-up, but the hostages would be released if more missiles were sent, which Iran would pay for. President Reagan signed off on the second shipment from Israel, which consisted of 408 TOW missiles. On September 15, the day after the shipment arrived in Iran, Benjamin Weir, an American hostage, was released. It was at this point that Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, the “principal action officer” for the NSC’s Contra dealings, was brought into the Iran dealings when McFarlane put him in charge of working with Kimche to figure out the logistics of getting Weir from Lebanon to the U.S. Though the very few people in the U.S. aware of the plan were angry that only one hostage had been released in exchange for 500 TOWs, McFarlane and others recognized other benefits they stood to gain from the trade. Additionally, all of the money transfers were being conducted by independent intermediaries––like Ghorbanifar and Khashoggi—instead of governments, which allowed for a great deal of flexibility. They were also determined to secure the release of more hostages.
Understanding the Iran-Contra Affairs - The Iran-Contra Affairs
The first inauguration of Ronald Reagan as the 40th President of the United States was held on January 20, 1981.
The second inauguration of Ronald Reagan as the 40th President of the United States was held privately on January 20, 1985 and publicly on January 21, 1985.
Why do they let children post on here?
You dumb ****....
They we're released the same day in 1981 when Ronnie was sworn in
Wyatt earp
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Show me the time line.What Amendment did Reagan violate? How did he go against Congress on inauguration day. Are you drunk so early in the day?
Because Regan went against Congress and an Amendment he signed himself and disregarded the Constitution you all claim to love so much. So, what is Trump going to do for Iran?
Oh, and the last statement bolded in red....you all have the audacity to be whining about Hillary's e-mails......
Wiki:
The Iran–Contra affair (Persian: ایران-کنترا‎, Spanish: caso Irán-Contra), also referred to as Irangate,[1] Contragate[2] or the Iran–Contra scandal, was a political scandal in the United States that occurred during the second term of the Reagan Administration. Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several US hostages, and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.
And, as usual, Republicans continue to against the will of the people of the United States.
Although the President continued to favor support of the contras, opinion polls indicated that a majority of the public was not supportive.
Iran Contra Committee Key Findings
Do you have trouble reading? I posted the Wiki explanation for you. Reagan was wheeling and dealing before election day, and negotiating with terrorists....something the GOP accuses Obama of doing when clearly he's not, but hypocritical because Reagan did negotiate with terrorists and the GOP looked the other way.
Here it is again....have someone explain it to you.
Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo.[3] They hoped thereby to secure the release of several US hostages, and to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. Under the Boland Amendment, further funding of the Contras by the government had been prohibited by Congress.
First, it didn't happen on Inauguration day, like you claim. Second, are you unable to Google or are you just deflecting?
The only way that Reagan was able to get Iran to release the hostages was by "negotiating with terrorists" after he said he wouldn't do that, and by selling them weapons, something that Congress had voted against.
Now, quit bragging about crap that you don't have the facts on unless you are able to back it up with links.
On July 1, 1985, the New York Times quoted President Ronald Reagan: “The United States gives terrorists no rewards. We make no concessions, we make no deals.” However, in August 1985, McFarlane visited Reagan in the hospital, where he was recovering from abdominal surgery, to talk about the deal in the works. The President approved the plan to allow Israel to sell approximately 100 American-made TOW antitank missiles to Iran, seeing it as a chance to improve relations with Iran and to gain the release of hostages. Israel would send Iran some of their American-made TOW missiles. In exchange, the Iranians would release some, if not all, of the American hostages that they held. The U.S. would also send Israel replacement TOW missiles so that its arsenal would not be depleted. It is not entirely clear what was said during this discussion, as both Reagan and McFarlane have given varying accounts. However, soon after, the plan was put into motion. Iran, represented by Ghorbanifar, and Israel, represented by Kimche and Nimrodi, worked out the details of the plan.
Shipments Begin
On August 20, the first load of 96 missiles was sent to Iran from Israel, with Ghorbanifar and Khashoggi acting as financial intermediates. However, no release of hostages followed. According to Ghobanifar, there had been a mix-up, but the hostages would be released if more missiles were sent, which Iran would pay for. President Reagan signed off on the second shipment from Israel, which consisted of 408 TOW missiles. On September 15, the day after the shipment arrived in Iran, Benjamin Weir, an American hostage, was released. It was at this point that Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, the “principal action officer” for the NSC’s Contra dealings, was brought into the Iran dealings when McFarlane put him in charge of working with Kimche to figure out the logistics of getting Weir from Lebanon to the U.S. Though the very few people in the U.S. aware of the plan were angry that only one hostage had been released in exchange for 500 TOWs, McFarlane and others recognized other benefits they stood to gain from the trade. Additionally, all of the money transfers were being conducted by independent intermediaries––like Ghorbanifar and Khashoggi—instead of governments, which allowed for a great deal of flexibility. They were also determined to secure the release of more hostages.
Understanding the Iran-Contra Affairs - The Iran-Contra Affairs
The first inauguration of Ronald Reagan as the 40th President of the United States was held on January 20, 1981.
The second inauguration of Ronald Reagan as the 40th President of the United States was held privately on January 20, 1985 and publicly on January 21, 1985.
BTW goof ball the hostages that they were talking about was The ones from the Airplane hijacking in lebanon
Not the ones in Iran...
Roudy
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Yeah, Obama was able to go after and get Osama Bin Ladin.....after your doofus President, who went after the wrong country claimed he wasn't interested in getting him.....this after OBL was responsible for over 3000 deaths.....talk about incompetence. (Oh, and add another 4000+ that we lost due to his incompetence in going after the wrong country.)
Ha ha ha. "Obama was able to go after and get Bin Laden". When all else fails divert the subject to something Obama had absolutely nothing to do with.
You're such an idiot. Of course Obama had something to do with it....he could have done like Doofus Bush and claimed he wasn't concerned with him - but he didn't. You're just butt hurt because your Republican President has taken the "dummy" award.
U.S. govt. agencies were after Bin Laden from the beginning. Neither Bush or Obama had anything to do with US intelligence being able to locate him.
Remember, it was the interrogation techniques implemented during the Bush administration that yielded the information that led to Bin Laden.
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rdean
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That is something the GOP made up. It's not and has never been true. Bush closed the CIA unit charged with finding Bin Laden and stated he didn't think about Bin Laden any more. Don't believe me? Here, you can believe him.
Yeah, Obama was able to go after and get Osama Bin Ladin.....after your doofus President, who went after the wrong country claimed he wasn't interested in getting him.....this after OBL was responsible for over 3000 deaths.....talk about incompetence. (Oh, and add another 4000+ that we lost due to his incompetence in going after the wrong country.)
Ha ha ha. "Obama was able to go after and get Bin Laden". When all else fails divert the subject to something Obama had absolutely nothing to do with.
You're such an idiot. Of course Obama had something to do with it....he could have done like Doofus Bush and claimed he wasn't concerned with him - but he didn't. You're just butt hurt because your Republican President has taken the "dummy" award.
U.S. govt. agencies were after Bin Laden from the beginning. Neither Bush or Obama had anything to do with US intelligence being able to locate him.
Remember, it was the interrogation techniques implemented during the Bush administration that yielded the information that led to Bin Laden.
He lived in a villa, not a cave. Worse, he was pretty much out in the open if Bush had only bothered to look.
Mertex
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Oh yeah.......you're one that cheers Sarah Palin's type of foreign policy....the extent being..... she can see Russia from her porch.....
Sarah Palin? um no.
Well, maybe not anymore.....now that you have a new love - Tchump. I bet he knows about as much about foreign policy as Palin does.
Mertex
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You're so full of crap........Bush certainly didn't have anything to do with it......he sat on his ass while we were being attacked and then went after the wrong country. And, idiot, US intelligence wouldn't have gone after him had Obama not told them to do so. My, you're so ignorant.
Wiki:
On June 2, 2009, just over four months into his presidency, President Obama sent a memo to CIA Director Leon Panetta directing him to provide, within 30 days, a detailed operational plan for locating bin Laden and bringing him to justice.[21]
Death of Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Doofus Bush......didn't care about getting justice for 3000+ Americans who died on his watch...he didn't care about OBL....idiot.
Mertex
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That's another Republican/conservative lie....for someone that claims not to be a Republican, you really do lap up the crap from them.
My, you love to show your ignorance.
I asked CIA Director Leon Panetta for the facts, and he told me the following: The trail to bin Laden did not begin with a disclosure from Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times. The first mention of Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti — the nickname of the al-Qaeda courier who ultimately led us to bin Laden — as well as a description of him as an important member of al-Qaeda, came from a detainee held in another country, who we believe was not tortured. None of the three detainees who were waterboarded provided Abu Ahmed’s real name, his whereabouts or an accurate description of his role in al-Qaeda.
In fact, the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques” on Khalid Sheik Mohammed produced false and misleading information. He specifically told his interrogators that Abu Ahmed had moved to Peshawar, got married and ceased his role as an al-Qaeda facilitator — none of which was true. According to the staff of the Senate intelligence committee, the best intelligence gained from a CIA detainee — information describing Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti’s real role in al-Qaeda and his true relationship to bin Laden — was obtained through standard, noncoercive means.
CIA Director: Torture Did Not Lead To Osama Bin Laden
Roudy
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That is something the GOP made up. It's not and has never been true. Bush closed the CIA unit charged with finding Bin Laden and stated he didn't think about Bin Laden any more. Don't believe me? Here, you can believe him.
Yeah, Obama was able to go after and get Osama Bin Ladin.....after your doofus President, who went after the wrong country claimed he wasn't interested in getting him.....this after OBL was responsible for over 3000 deaths.....talk about incompetence. (Oh, and add another 4000+ that we lost due to his incompetence in going after the wrong country.)
Ha ha ha. "Obama was able to go after and get Bin Laden". When all else fails divert the subject to something Obama had absolutely nothing to do with.
You're such an idiot. Of course Obama had something to do with it....he could have done like Doofus Bush and claimed he wasn't concerned with him - but he didn't. You're just butt hurt because your Republican President has taken the "dummy" award.
U.S. govt. agencies were after Bin Laden from the beginning. Neither Bush or Obama had anything to do with US intelligence being able to locate him.
Remember, it was the interrogation techniques implemented during the Bush administration that yielded the information that led to Bin Laden.
He lived in a villa, not a cave. Worse, he was pretty much out in the open if Bush had only bothered to look.
Our so called "allies" the Pakistanis were hiding him, dipsticK. Bush certainly did set in motion the necessary requirement for Bin Laden to get captured. Obama is a free loader that took credit for it:
The path to Osama bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama
Bin Laden's death sparks brief outburst of respect from Bush-era Republicans
Bush Says Bin Laden Wanted Dead or Alive
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Roudy
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No actually you're the full a crap dufus. Obama is an epic failure, free loading bullshitter:
The path to Osama bin Laden’s death didn’t start with Obama
Bin Laden's death sparks brief outburst of respect from Bush-era Republicans
Bush Says Bin Laden Wanted Dead or Alive
Mertex
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You're such an idiot. I provide you with links/articles and you claim they're fraud........one that I provided was from a conservative source, so you are really stupid to think that a conservative source would make up a fraud poll and go against its own party.....which just proves that you're an idiot and won't accept facts but will continue to parrot the crap you get from the extreme rwnj's treasure trove.
Didn't you watch the video and see Bush Doofus lips claim that he wasn't concerned with BinLaden.......I guess you're going to tell me that the video is photoshopped....what a moron you are.
For instance, as the months and years went by after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks -- and Bush’s initial bluster about capturing the al Qaeda leader “dead or alive” became a source of embarrassment -- Bush began to insist that bin Laden himself wasn’t so very important.
"I truly am not that concerned about him," Bush said at a White House press conference on March 13, 2002. And of course the following March, he shifted America’s focus to Iraq, which proved to be a gigantic diversion.
Osama Bin Laden Rhetoric and Reality: Obama Succeeded Where Bush Failed -- Again and Again
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