I'm concerned that our votes don't really matter.

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I'm new so I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but I have noticed lately much talk of rigged elections. At first it seems a bit crazy, but a friend turned me on to some videos that show how easily voting machines can be rigged to give votes to whoever one wants and not leave a paper trail. Is this a legitimate concern? Is it a hoax? I'd love to know what the heck is going on here.
 
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For anyone interested, here is one of the videos.

 
Your vote DOES count and you must stand by you beliefs by voting! There have been elections decided by very small numbers. Failing to vote ensures the person you DON'T want elected is.
 
I'm new so I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but I have noticed lately much talk of rigged elections. At first it seems a bit crazy, but a friend turned me on to some videos that show how easily voting machines can be rigged to give votes to whoever one wants and not leave a paper trail. Is this a legitimate concern? Is it a hoax? I'd love to know what the heck is going on here.

What I think is most concerning is that the technology for sending tallied votes around is from the 1990's and easily hacked and can be tampered with without any trace.
 
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Your vote DOES count and you must stand by you beliefs by voting! There have been elections decided by very small numbers. Failing to vote ensures the person you DON'T want elected is.
Did you watch the above video?
 
I'm new so I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but I have noticed lately much talk of rigged elections. At first it seems a bit crazy, but a friend turned me on to some videos that show how easily voting machines can be rigged to give votes to whoever one wants and not leave a paper trail. Is this a legitimate concern? Is it a hoax? I'd love to know what the heck is going on here.
i'm not comfortable with voting connected with the internet. they say there's a backup, so we have to trust they.
whomever they are.
 
I'm new so I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but I have noticed lately much talk of rigged elections. At first it seems a bit crazy, but a friend turned me on to some videos that show how easily voting machines can be rigged to give votes to whoever one wants and not leave a paper trail. Is this a legitimate concern? Is it a hoax? I'd love to know what the heck is going on here.

Haven't you been paying attention to wikileaks and project veritace?
Hell, democrats flat out admit they're doing it at all levels.
 
Well it looks like the idiots are are going full psycho...

While we are worried that the Campaign who have lied the most (Trump) and has a candidate who has confessed to sexual assualt might try and rig the election we are going to trust the system...
 
Has anyone said that this is a hoax or can these people actually put whatever vote totals in that they want and leave no trace?
 
Honestly, I'm not sure there is a definite answer to your questions. Yes there are instances of voter fraud or missing ballots or miscounting, or, or, or...and yet it is all we have. It's like the law & justice system.....it doesn't always work the way it's supposed too or for everybody. It comes down to your own personal dialogue...put blind faith in the system & vote......or worry about the fraud & not vote. But you also throw away your opportunity to maybe make a difference. :dunno:
 
I'm new so I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but I have noticed lately much talk of rigged elections. At first it seems a bit crazy, but a friend turned me on to some videos that show how easily voting machines can be rigged to give votes to whoever one wants and not leave a paper trail. Is this a legitimate concern? Is it a hoax? I'd love to know what the heck is going on here.



With Donald Trump running around saying the election is rigged--is why you're thinking that.

1. They check electronic voting machines often to make certain they're reading right. In fact that is a requirement. If they stick a sample ballot in the machine and it reads wrong to the ballot, they will be looking for the person who did it immediately.
2. There has never been an instance where someone was caught or charged with rigging an electronic voting machine, yes slot machines at a casino, people have been caught and prosecuted for that, but never elections.

To instill some more confidence, volunteer to work at your polling precinct. If 700 people come into vote, there will be one democrat to one republican (required) you won't know who they are who will be standing over your shoulder and watching everything you do. At the end of the day there had better be 700 ballots, if one is missing they will spend all night to find it. The ballot box is either counted at the location, or is locked (you don't have the key) but you will be accompanied by others to deliver it to a central counting location, and again one democrat to one republican with several others watching those ballots being counted. At the end the Secretary of each State will "certify" the vote insuring it is accurate.

Our system of free and fair elections is the most admired in the world. On average you will find 34 fraudulent votes to every BILLION votes cast. It happens, but it is extremely rare, and only very STUPID people will try it because the penalties are so severe. It's considered a FELONY. That extra vote is not going to change the outcome of an election, but it will change your life forever. Here is a woman they caught trying to vote twice.
The BRAD BLOG : Republican Arrested After Allegedly Attempting to Vote Twice in Nevada

1. You lose your right to vote FOREVER.
2. You are arrested and prosecuted.
3. You pay a hefty fine, & or are thrown in jail.

Here is an article that explains in detail Trump's false claims of wide spread voter fraud.
Fact-checking two false claims by Trump alleging widespread voter fraud

And let's be honest. If elections could be rigged as easily as Donald Trump claims, he certainly wouldn't be the nominee of the Republican party today, would he? As far as your claim that your vote doesn't matter, that's ridiculous. Imagine if we all felt that way, and I have witnessed local elections won & lost with as little as 2 votes.
 
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I'm new so I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but I have noticed lately much talk of rigged elections. At first it seems a bit crazy, but a friend turned me on to some videos that show how easily voting machines can be rigged to give votes to whoever one wants and not leave a paper trail. Is this a legitimate concern? Is it a hoax? I'd love to know what the heck is going on here.



With Donald Trump running around saying the election is rigged--is why you're thinking that.

1. They check electronic voting machines often to make certain they're reading right, and that no one has changed data within them to read a different way. In fact this is a requirement.
2. There has never been an instance where someone was caught or charged with rigging an electronic voting machine, yes slot machines at a casino, people have been caught and prosecuted but not elections.

To instill some more confidence volunteer to work at your polling precinct. If 700 people come into vote, there will be one democrat to one republican (required) you won't know who they are who will be standing over your shoulder and watching everything you do. At the end of the day there had better be 700 ballots, if one is missing they will spend all night to find it. The ballot box is either counted at the location, or is locked (you don't have the key) but you will be accompanied by others to deliver it to a central counting location, and again one democrat to one republican with several others watching those ballots being counted. At the end the Secretary of each State will "certify" the vote insuring it is accurate.

Our system of free and fair elections is the most admired in the world. On average you will find 34 fraudulent votes to every BILLION votes cast. It happens, but it is extremely rare, and only very STUPID people will try it because the penalties are so severe. It's considered a FELONY. That extra vote is not going to change the outcome of an election, but it will change your life forever. Here is a woman they caught trying to vote twice.
The BRAD BLOG : Republican Arrested After Allegedly Attempting to Vote Twice in Nevada

1. You lose your right to vote FOREVER.
2. You are arrested and prosecuted.
3. You pay a hefty fine, & or are thrown in jail.

Here is an article that explains in detail Trump's false claims of wide spread voter fraud.
Fact-checking two false claims by Trump alleging widespread voter fraud

And let's be honest. If elections could be rigged as easily as Donald Trump claims, he certainly wouldn't be the nominee of the Republican party today, would he?
Uhhhh, no. This has nothing to do with Trump. This has been ongoing since they put dumbass "W" on the throne. There was a video going around back then of a monkey hacking a diebold machine with like seven keystrokes and there is no paper trail. Same shit today.
 
I'm new so I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but I have noticed lately much talk of rigged elections. At first it seems a bit crazy, but a friend turned me on to some videos that show how easily voting machines can be rigged to give votes to whoever one wants and not leave a paper trail. Is this a legitimate concern? Is it a hoax? I'd love to know what the heck is going on here.
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I'm new so I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but I have noticed lately much talk of rigged elections. At first it seems a bit crazy, but a friend turned me on to some videos that show how easily voting machines can be rigged to give votes to whoever one wants and not leave a paper trail. Is this a legitimate concern? Is it a hoax? I'd love to know what the heck is going on here.

It doesn't need to be rigged for your vote not to count. The way the voting is set up means that the votes of millions of people don't count.

DEMAND Proportional Representation and then every vote actually counts. That's democracy, what the US has isn't.
 
Hello, OP? louie888 ,

Any video that claims to show you that voting machines have been hacked and votes changed...is a hoax.

I don't know you and I don't want to be rude. So I won't tell you that your posts give others the impression that you are very easily impressed.
 

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