Illinois AG candidate/gun control advocate robbed at gunpoint in Chicago during campaign photoshoot

[LeftofLeft]

Where’s the irony ?

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

 

[PredFan]

Where’s the irony ?

Hey! It's Alanis Morrisette!

 

[2aguy]

I think that we will all respect that candidate IF he continues to campaign for stricter gun control laws (and campaigns without security).

He will be proving that he sincerely believes in his cause despite any negative personal experiences.

*****

This news reminds me of a somewhat similar situation. (I will be purposely vague in order not to hurt anyone's feelings.)

In the 1960s, Mr. X campaigned for the rights of group Y.

Years later (when this group had achieved much, thanks to people like Mr. X), he happened to be in an elevator when a young man of group Y roughed him up and robbed him.

When reporters asked him whether he regretted all his efforts in behalf that group, he replied ABSOLUTELY NOT!

*****

Whether or not we agree with someone's cause, we can respect him/her if s/he is truly sincere.

No....sincerity doesn't matter.....hitler, stalin and mao were deeply sincere about their causes too........evil is evil.

 

[Timmy]

Where’s the irony ?

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

 

[jon_berzerk]

oh the irony!

Illinois AG candidate robbed at gunpoint in Chicago during campaign photoshoot

--LOL

gun control advocate robbed at GUN POINT in gun ban utopia of Chicago

--LOL

 

[jon_berzerk]

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

How about poetic justice?

How about it proves him right . There are too many guns out there in the hands of bad guys BECAUSE of lose gun laws .

How is taking guns from good people going to stop bad ones?

Gun control doesn’t take guns from good people. It’s the very opposite of that .

Why not just give criminals who commit crimes with a firearm lengthy prison sentences?

personally i dont see the difference

if someone commits a violent crime by any means

they should have a lengthy sentence

 

[jon_berzerk]

Where’s the irony ?

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

you are laughable puppet

 

[2aguy]

Where’s the irony ?

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Wrong....

Gun control does not reduce gun crime....as Britain keeps showing us...they banned guns...on an island......and confiscated handguns....now gun crime is up 27% across the country and up 42% in Britain all by itself......

Here in the States.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[jon_berzerk]

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

How about poetic justice?

How about it proves him right . There are too many guns out there in the hands of bad guys BECAUSE of lose gun laws .

How is taking guns from good people going to stop bad ones?

Gun control doesn’t take guns from good people. It’s the very opposite of that .

so you are saying that the gang bangers of Chicago who have tons of guns

committing homicide and serious injury around the clock

are "good people" thanks for the heads up ya retard

 

[2aguy]

Where’s the irony ?

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

You don't know what you are talking about...

Would Cracking Down on Guns in the U.S. Really Reduce Violence? , by Robert VerBruggen, National Review

There is actually no simple correlation between states’ homicide rates and their gun-ownership rates or gun laws.
This has been shown numerous times, by different people, using different data sets.

A year ago, I took state gun-ownership levels reported by the Washington Post (based on a Centers for Disease Control survey) and compared them with murder rates from the FBI: no correlation.

The legal scholar Eugene Volokh has compared states’ gun laws (as rated by the anti-gun Brady Campaign) with their murder rates: no correlation.

David Freddoso of the Washington Examiner, a former National Review reporter, failed to find a correlation even between gun ownership in a state and gun murders specifically, an approach that sets aside the issue of whether gun availability has an effect on non-gun crime. (Guns can deter unarmed criminals, for instance, and criminals without guns may simply switch to other weapons.)


, I recently redid my analysis with a few tweaks. Instead of relying on a single year of survey data, I averaged three years. (The CDC survey, the best available for state-level numbers, included data on gun ownership only in 2001, 2002, and 2004. Those were the years I looked at.)

And instead of comparing CDC data with murder rates from a different agency, I relied on the CDC’s own estimates of death by assault in those years. Again: no correlation.

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Left-leaning media outlets, from Mother Jones to National Journal, get around this absence of correlation by reporting numbers on “gun deaths” rather than gun homicides or homicides in general.


More than 60 percent of gun deaths nationally are suicides, and places with higher gun ownership typically see a higher percentage of their suicides committed with a gun.

Focusing on the number of gun deaths practically guarantees a finding that guns and violence go together. While it may be true that public policy should also seek to reduce suicide, it is homicide — often a dramatic mass killing — that usually prompts the media and politicians to call for gun control, and it is homicide that most influences people as they consider supporting measures to take away their fellow citizens’ access to guns.

There are large gaps among the states when it comes to homicide, with rates ranging all the way from about two to twelve per 100,000 in 2013, the most recent year of data available from the CDC. These disparities show that it’s not just guns that cause the United States to have, on average, a higher rate of homicide than other developed countries do.


Not only is there no correlation between gun ownership and overall homicide within a state, but there is a strong correlation between gun homicide and non-gun homicide — suggesting that they spring from similar causes, and that some states are simply more violent than others. A closer look at demographic and geographic patterns provides some clues as to why this is.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Ouch, robbing a politician who is supposedly fighting for you.

Seems armed criminals aren’t too political.

Maybe the criminals are racist.

 

[2aguy]

Where’s the irony ?

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

And more.....


Haskins: Strict gun control will never work in America

For instance, many of the states with the lowest crime rates, including homicide rates, also have some of the fewest limits on gun ownership. In fact, the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a group that supports enhancing gun-control laws, gave in its recent gun-control report card “F” grades (for having lax gun laws) to five of the six states that have the lowest homicide rates. If having fewer gun restrictions causes more violent crime, why would many states with the lowest homicide rates also have relatively few gun-control laws?

The data also show there is no connection to higher gun ownership rates and greater amounts of crime. There are only six states in which 50 percent of the households own firearms: Alaska, Arkansas, Idaho, Montana, West Virginia and Wyoming. If gun-control supporters are correct about the dangers of firearms, these states should have significantly higher crime rates, but the opposite is true here as well. Data provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show four of those six states ranked in the top half of all states for having the lowest homicide rates. Two of the states, Idaho and Wyoming, ranked in the top six.

Further, many cities with very low legal gun ownership rates and stringent gun-control laws, such as Chicago, have extremely high gun-related murder rates.

Gun-control laws also don’t prevent mass shootings. An analysis conducted by statistician Leah Libresco shows Australia and Britain have not experienced fewer mass shootings or gun-related crimes since enacting their very strict gun-control laws.

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And this fact....

It’s also important to note that relative to other problems in our society of 320 million people, gun-related crime caused by Americans who legally own a firearm involved in the crime is virtually nonexistent. Of the 33,000 gun-related deaths that occur each year, two-thirds are suicides, and the majority of the remaining 11,000 deaths are gang-related and involve guns that were purchased illegally.

By contrast, 88,000 people die every year from alcohol-linked causes. That means if you exclude suicides, alcohol is 650 percent deadlier than guns (including gang-related crime), and virtually no one is calling for another Prohibition, which, it’s worth pointing out, was a complete disaster.

 

[2aguy]

Gun control does not lower the crime rate...

Gun control doesn’t reduce crime, violence, say studies

The National Academy of Sciences issued a 328-page report based on 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications, a survey of 80 different gun-control laws and some of its own independent study.

In short, the panel could find no link between restrictions on gun ownership and lower rates of crime, firearms violence or even accidents with guns.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Where’s the irony ?

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

 

[Timmy]

Where’s the irony ?

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

 

[BluesLegend]

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

Dude Boston is drunk as **** on any given night. Seattle is infested with drug abusing losers who will steal anything and everything.

 

[LeftofLeft]

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

It’s quite simple.... land of tight gun control vs. land of gun rights. Who has more gun crimes? Most crimes involving a gun are done so with illegally obtained firearms. Further, they have greater “success” in “gun free zones”.

The gun control freaks have only figured out how to limit guns among law-abiding citizens.

 

[BluesLegend]

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

It’s quite simple.... land of tight gun control vs. land of gun rights. Who has more gun crimes? Most crimes involving a gun are done so with illegally obtained firearms. Further, they have greater “success” in “gun free zones”.

The gun control freaks have only figured out how to limit guns among law-abiding citizens.

Stripping law abiding citizens of their guns IS the goal of gun control freaks. They know criminals will ignore all their gun control laws.

 

[Timmy]

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

It’s quite simple.... land of tight gun control vs. land of gun rights. Who has more gun crimes? Most crimes involving a gun are done so with illegally obtained firearms. Further, they have greater “success” in “gun free zones”.

The gun control freaks have only figured out how to limit guns among law-abiding citizens.

Stripping law abiding citizens of their guns IS the goal of gun control freaks. They know criminals will ignore all their gun control laws.

Gun control strips guns from nuts and criminals! Law abiding folks get their guns .

 

[Timmy]

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

It’s quite simple.... land of tight gun control vs. land of gun rights. Who has more gun crimes? Most crimes involving a gun are done so with illegally obtained firearms. Further, they have greater “success” in “gun free zones”.

The gun control freaks have only figured out how to limit guns among law-abiding citizens.

Gun nut states have more gun crimes . That’s a fact . And that’s not even counting suicides .