if you think of Germany, what comes to your mind?

[ShahdagMountains]

once i had a look at the German section of an US college library

and there were only books about Nazi Germany and nothing else.

That’s how most of them fantasise about Germany.

Nazis.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

I can hardly believe that medical war criminals who assisted the Nazi doctor Karl Kebhardt with his gruesome experiments, were let out of prison early, and were permitted to re enter private practice.

From Wiki:

Two of Gebhardt's assistants were also tried and convicted at Nuremberg. Fritz Fischer worked in the hospital of the Ravensbrück concentration camp as a surgical assistant to Gebhardt, and participated in the surgical experiments carried out on the inmates. He was initially condemned to life imprisonment, but his sentence was reduced. Fischer subsequently regained his medical license and resumed his career at the chemical company Boehringer Ingelheim, where he remained employed until his retirement. He died in 2003 at the age of 90 or 91.

Herta Oberheuser was another of Gebhardt's assistants at the Ravensbrück concentration camp. She was the only female defendant in the Doctors' Trial, where she was sentenced to 20 years in prison. She was released in April 1952 and became a family doctor in Stocksee, Germany. She lost her position in 1956 after a Ravensbrück survivor recognized her, and her medical license was revoked in 1958. She died on 24 January 1978 at the age of 66.

 

[Zebra]

That’s how most of them fantasise about Germany.

Nazis.

so it seems

 

[ShahdagMountains]

 

[Zebra]

are they really?

 

[Zebra]

I can hardly believe that medical war criminals who assisted the Nazi doctor Karl Kebhardt with his gruesome experiments, were let out of prison early, and were permitted to re enter private practice.

From Wiki:

Two of Gebhardt's assistants were also tried and convicted at Nuremberg. Fritz Fischer worked in the hospital of the Ravensbrück concentration camp as a surgical assistant to Gebhardt, and participated in the surgical experiments carried out on the inmates. He was initially condemned to life imprisonment, but his sentence was reduced. Fischer subsequently regained his medical license and resumed his career at the chemical company Boehringer Ingelheim, where he remained employed until his retirement. He died in 2003 at the age of 90 or 91.

Herta Oberheuser was another of Gebhardt's assistants at the Ravensbrück concentration camp. She was the only female defendant in the Doctors' Trial, where she was sentenced to 20 years in prison. She was released in April 1952 and became a family doctor in Stocksee, Germany. She lost her position in 1956 after a Ravensbrück survivor recognized her, and her medical license was revoked in 1958. She died on 24 January 1978 at the age of 66.

and there was also Mengele

 

[Zebra]

Oh, and there's this asshole who claims to be a German too, mumba-jumba or something, yeah, right, Zaangwella, whatever the **** that might be.

You have found the right words for this Zaanga creatuture …

 

[Zebra]

Solltest Du ein Deutscher sein dann bist Du wirklich ausgesprochen ungebildet.
=
If you are a German then you really are extremely uneducated.

The first two strophes of our national anthem which we not sing any longer have absolutelly nothing to do with the Nazis and their fake-nationalism.

Their song was "Heute gehört uns Deutschland und morgen die ganze Welt" = “Today Germany belongs to us, tomorrow the whole world”. But even this was not the original text within this song. In the original the text had been "Heute (ge)hört uns Deutschland und morgen die ganze Welt" = “Today Germany hears us, tomorrow the whole world”. This song was from an early time of their movement.

The "Deutschland über alles" ="Germany over all" (also over the Nazis !!!) statement in the 1st strophe is this:

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt –
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt!
=
Germany, Germany above all,
Above all in the world,
If it always holds together fraternally for protection and defense,

From the Meuse to the Memel,
From the Adige to the Belt -
Germany, Germany above all,
Above all in the world!

You can see easily that Germany had a defined territory in this song which was from former times. This territory is lost as a consequence of world war 1+2. So it not makes any sense to sing this strophe any longer. The words "Germany, Germany above all, Above all in the world!" refer to the German petty statehood. Germany had been splitted in dozens of independent countries and thousands of other independent political structures. "Germany above all" or "Germany over all" meant to make just simple one common nation out of Germany. Everyone should first think about Germany in total in the own political decisions. "Over all" means first to think about "unity" because the adjective "deutsch" means nothing else then to be united by speaking the same language(s), by not needing an interpreter. In theory we could call the USA the "German States of America" and this would be the same as to call the USA the "United States of America" - if the people in the USA would speak "German" - but indeed they speak "German" (a German language) because English is a German dialect who came once from the Anglo-Saxons (=Northern Germans). Unfortunatelly we need an interpreter meanwhile to understand English. Specially what Donald Trump says is not understandable any longer at all. What he says is a totally new form of logos - if it has anything to do with logic at all.

You talk nonsense, as usual …..

 

[Zebra]

and Attila

And the tale of the Nibelungen

 

[Zebra]

….and Siegfried and Krimhild
and Gunter, Gernot and Giselher
… and Hagen …

 

[Failzero]

And the tale of the Nibelungen

There needs to be a Ring movie