If You Can't Afford to Hire 'Murricans'...

[DGS49]

14 people arrested in ICE raid at Mexican restaurant in Marshall

“I could see through the window of the front door, people with their hands clasped in prayer, some with their hands bound.”

www.post-gazette.com

I have often seen it written that if an employer cannot survive an increase in the Minimum Wage, then they do not have a viable business and shutting it down is a non-event. No less a Worthy than former Presidential candidate HRC said that if her massive healthcare program (which never came into existence) caused the bankruptcy of a couple of pizza shops, that was not her problem - not her fault.

But if you cannot afford to run a business without illegal aliens on staff, does the same principle apply?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Parenthetically, as a certified, card-carrying MAGA Republican, I have no sympathy for those impacted by the raid mentioned in the linked article. My advice to them is, "Get in line."

 

[ReinyDays]

14 people arrested in ICE raid at Mexican restaurant in Marshall

“I could see through the window of the front door, people with their hands clasped in prayer, some with their hands bound.”

www.post-gazette.com

I have often seen it written that if an employer cannot survive an increase in the Minimum Wage, then they do not have a viable business and shutting it down is a non-event. No less a Worthy than former Presidential candidate HRC said that if her massive healthcare program (which never came into existence) caused the bankruptcy of a couple of pizza shops, that was not her problem - not her fault.

But if you cannot afford to run a business without illegal aliens on staff, does the same principle apply?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Parenthetically, as a certified, card-carrying MAGA Republican, I have no sympathy for those impacted by the raid mentioned in the linked article. My advice to them is, "Get in line."

Are you suggesting American citizens go out and work migrant farm jobs? ... California farmers are complaining of labor shortages ... get your lily white MAGA ass out in that 105ºF cucumber field and start picking ... and hurry up because 105ºF peach orchards will be ready next week 150 mile north ...

The difference is a White-skinned person will go back to some cold frozen snowy place like Pittsburgh for winter ... the Brown-skinned people winter in Tropical Mexico ...

... and don't you dare say the California Central Valley isn't MAGA Country ...

 

[0311]

14 people arrested in ICE raid at Mexican restaurant in Marshall

“I could see through the window of the front door, people with their hands clasped in prayer, some with their hands bound.”

www.post-gazette.com

I have often seen it written that if an employer cannot survive an increase in the Minimum Wage, then they do not have a viable business and shutting it down is a non-event. No less a Worthy than former Presidential candidate HRC said that if her massive healthcare program (which never came into existence) caused the bankruptcy of a couple of pizza shops, that was not her problem - not her fault.

But if you cannot afford to run a business without illegal aliens on staff, does the same principle apply?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Parenthetically, as a certified, card-carrying MAGA Republican, I have no sympathy for those impacted by the raid mentioned in the linked article. My advice to them is, "Get in line."

They should arrest the employers.

 

[Anathema]

Are you suggesting American citizens go out and work migrant farm jobs? ... California farmers are complaining of labor shortages ... get your lily white MAGA ass out in that 105ºF cucumber field and start picking ... and hurry up because 105ºF peach orchards will be ready next week 150 mile north ...

I’m suggesting this is what we have prison inmates and Wekfare recipients for.

 

[Jarlaxle]

They should arrest the employers.

Generally yes-though in some cases, the employers checked, but the illegals HAD documentation...it just wasn't theirs.

 

[Oddball]

Generally yes-though in some cases, the employers checked, but the illegals HAD documentation...it just wasn't theirs.

E-Verify is a worthless mess on purpose.

 

[task0778]

But if you cannot afford to run a business without illegal aliens on staff, does the same principle apply?

Interesting question. Maybe it partly depends on the business and how many Americans lose their jobs because the business wasn't financially successful without the illegals working for less money. Say you have 10 illegals and 10 Americans working for you and now the illegals are gone and your business folds. Can you hire 10 more Americans to do what the illegals were doing? Maybe not, the way things are these days. And if you can, how much extra do you have to pay them over what the illegals were paid? Is your business still viable? I suspect in some cases businesses will fold and in others their labor costs go up and so do their prices for whatever their products are. For the same frickin' thing, that's called inflation.

 

[Natural Citizen]

E-Verify is a worthless mess on purpose.

A lot of your standard, cookie-cutter wingers seem to be of the very naive view that E-Verify is for immigrants.

It's not.

Its ultimate function is, always has been, and will ultimately be made applicable to Americans.

As has been said before, and correctly so, it is the foundation for Americans to have to ask the government's permission to work, it is the foundation for a national biometric databases, central bank digital currencies, and a social credit system. It gives the state near full spectrum dominance over the lives of all Americans.




''We gawna git em ar dirty, rotten, filthy, stinking, no good Mexeecans'' was only the wrapping paper for coercing shallow-thinking Americans to accept the public sell of the infrastructure itself.

Well...they're gonna get it alright. Nice and hard, too. Watch and see.

Dumbasses...

 

[Seymour Flops]

Are you suggesting American citizens go out and work migrant farm jobs? ... California farmers are complaining of labor shortages ... get your lily white MAGA ass out in that 105ºF cucumber field and start picking ... and hurry up because 105ºF peach orchards will be ready next week 150 mile north ...

The difference is a White-skinned person will go back to some cold frozen snowy place like Pittsburgh for winter ... the Brown-skinned people winter in Tropical Mexico ...

... and don't you dare say the California Central Valley isn't MAGA Country ...

How strange that we have crops going unpicked for lack of workers, but at the same time, we have claims on this very board that a twenty hour per week work requirement will cause able-bodied people to choose to lose their health care rather than work half-time. They could get twenty hours a week of cucumpber picking from 7:00 AM to 11:00 AM before it really gets hot.

We subsidize cheap labor with health benefits, SNAP and WIC, but the Democrats also want us to subsidize no labor at all.

 

[ReinyDays]

They could get twenty hours a week of cucumpber picking from 7:00 AM to 11:00 AM before it really gets hot ...

Harvest is sun-up to sun-down ... do you not know how food is grown? ... rural schools in California don't open until the crops are in ...

I'm okay if you want to suspend social services, if you really think us Rich folk need more tax breaks ... your taxes won't change, or they'll be going up if we want SS saved ...

You really don't know how food grows? ...

 

[toobfreak]

Are you suggesting American citizens go out and work migrant farm jobs?

Why not? I mean. if such work is available in your area? Picking tomatoes wouldn't be the hardest or dirties job I ever did, and besides, done right with a little cart to lay on and pulled along while you pick them and hand them off, it wouldn't be all that hard to do.

Besides, there is a great atmosphere and aroma working around the exhalations of hundreds of tomato plants.

 

[Moonglow]

14 people arrested in ICE raid at Mexican restaurant in Marshall

“I could see through the window of the front door, people with their hands clasped in prayer, some with their hands bound.”

www.post-gazette.com

I have often seen it written that if an employer cannot survive an increase in the Minimum Wage, then they do not have a viable business and shutting it down is a non-event. No less a Worthy than former Presidential candidate HRC said that if her massive healthcare program (which never came into existence) caused the bankruptcy of a couple of pizza shops, that was not her problem - not her fault.

But if you cannot afford to run a business without illegal aliens on staff, does the same principle apply?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Parenthetically, as a certified, card-carrying MAGA Republican, I have no sympathy for those impacted by the raid mentioned in the linked article. My advice to them is, "Get in line."

What increase in the min. wage?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Harvest is sun-up to sun-down ... do you not know how food is grown? ... rural schools in California don't open until the crops are in ...

So, you prefer the farmers lean on their hoes and say "I ain't harin' no four hour workers!" as they watch their crops rot?

I'm okay if you want to suspend social services, if you really think us Rich folk need more tax breaks ... your taxes won't change, or they'll be going up if we want SS saved ...

This bill keeps the existing tax rates. As to breaks, are there more tax breaks or fewer in the BBB? This question is a literacy test.

You really don't know how food grows? ...

It is grown by hard labor. Of which less will be available if we give people money and benefits without requiring labor.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why not? I mean. if such work is available in your area? Picking tomatoes wouldn't be the hardest or dirties job I ever did, and besides, done right with a little cart to lay on and pulled along while you pick them and hand them off, it wouldn't be all that hard to do.

Besides, there is a great atmosphere and aroma working around the exhalations of hundreds of tomato plants.

When I started at UPS, they put me in a trailer that had been sitting in the Texas sun from the morning until 4:30 when I started. Twelve hundred packages an hour many of them taken from a shelf over my head and put on a roller at my feet - and fired if you drop or throw one. I defy any farm job to be harder than that.

If farmers cannot find workers, it is because our welfare system makes it too easy to not work.

 

[ReinyDays]

Why not? I mean. if such work is available in your area? Picking tomatoes wouldn't be the hardest or dirties job I ever did, and besides, done right with a little cart to lay on and pulled along while you pick them and hand them off, it wouldn't be all that hard to do.

Besides, there is a great atmosphere and aroma working around the exhalations of hundreds of tomato plants.

The work itself isn't all that bad ... I lived a few years next to a 40-acre cherry orchard ... one family could take care of all the business except harvest ... they hired 20 or 30 migrant workers for two weeks to bring the crop in ... after, these workers moved on the next crop that ripens, then the next, then the next ... all summer long ...

Would a white person give up hearth and home to do this kind of work? ... it's not dirty or hard work, but it is migrant ... just how food is grown ... I'm a carpenter, which is dirty and hard work, but I got to go home to my family every evening ...

I picked peach one summer ... and it was tons of fun but that's until I learn "******* gringo" isn't Spanish for "swell guy" ... it isn't even Spanish ... it's English for "******* gringo" ... who knew? ...

 

[ReinyDays]

If farmers cannot find workers, it is because our welfare system makes it too easy to not work.

Welfare is only available to households with children who are NOT receiving child support ... our welfare system makes it too easy to be a deadbeat parent ...

Make deadbeat parents work the fields ... or does that hit too close to home? ... you'd put little children to work rather than enforce child support judgements ... makes me wonder how far behind you are? ...

 

[justoffal]

Are you suggesting American citizens go out and work migrant farm jobs? ... California farmers are complaining of labor shortages ... get your lily white MAGA ass out in that 105ºF cucumber field and start picking ... and hurry up because 105ºF peach orchards will be ready next week 150 mile north ...

The difference is a White-skinned person will go back to some cold frozen snowy place like Pittsburgh for winter ... the Brown-skinned people winter in Tropical Mexico ...

... and don't you dare say the California Central Valley isn't MAGA Country ...

There's no question that many people underestimate the extreme manual strain of harvesting labor. It will pass into history though as agriculture becomes more and more mechanized. It is an issue and one that apparently the president is paying attention to because he's being told it will drive up food prices. By the same token it's a hypocritical position to advocate for virtual slave labor while at the same time advocating for the rights of illegal aliens.

 

[justoffal]

Why not? I mean. if such work is available in your area? Picking tomatoes wouldn't be the hardest or dirties job I ever did, and besides, done right with a little cart to lay on and pulled along while you pick them and hand them off, it wouldn't be all that hard to do.

Besides, there is a great atmosphere and aroma working around the exhalations of hundreds of tomato plants.

Excellent post...

When I was 16 and still had hair I worked in a textile mill for minimum wage which was $2.35 at the time. The owners were illegal immigrants oddly enough.... And had absolutely no regard for overtime rules. The work was very heavy the hours were long and it was often 130° inside the mill.

We had salt tablet stations and plenty of drinking water but still at least a half a dozen people a day would pass out in the hot weather. We had a room where people would go cool off get back their senses, have some water, take a piss and then go back to work. This isn't a sob story this is the real McCoy.

This was a glimpse of what work was actually like through the 20s 30s 40s and even into the '50s. This was a picture of a time and the man would come home drenched in perspiration wearing a wife beater, sit down at his kitchen table and have a beer before he passed out only to get up the next day and do it all over again.

 

[Hollie]

14 people arrested in ICE raid at Mexican restaurant in Marshall

“I could see through the window of the front door, people with their hands clasped in prayer, some with their hands bound.”

www.post-gazette.com

I have often seen it written that if an employer cannot survive an increase in the Minimum Wage, then they do not have a viable business and shutting it down is a non-event. No less a Worthy than former Presidential candidate HRC said that if her massive healthcare program (which never came into existence) caused the bankruptcy of a couple of pizza shops, that was not her problem - not her fault.

But if you cannot afford to run a business without illegal aliens on staff, does the same principle apply?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Parenthetically, as a certified, card-carrying MAGA Republican, I have no sympathy for those impacted by the raid mentioned in the linked article. My advice to them is, "Get in line."

Trump has already proposed a work visa plan for migrants hires.

Trump Launches New Visa Program for Migrant Workers at Farmers' Request

The Trump administration’s new visa program for July 2025 aims to resolve labor shortages in farming and hospitality by increasing H-2B visa allocations and streamlining processes via the Office of Immigration Policy. It balances tough immigration enforcement with economic needs but denies...

www.visaverge.com

The real issue is that leftists presume that illegals are resource of cheap labor to be used and abused.
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[ReinyDays]

Why not? I mean. if such work is available in your area? Picking tomatoes wouldn't be the hardest or dirties job I ever did, and besides, done right with a little cart to lay on and pulled along while you pick them and hand them off, it wouldn't be all that hard to do.

Besides, there is a great atmosphere and aroma working around the exhalations of hundreds of tomato plants.

Are you going to California this summer to work the fields, live in a tent and use a pit toilet until October? ... migrant farm work is just that, you have to migrate across the Central Valley harvesting the crops that are available ... Fresno a couple weeks, 5 days in Yuba City, Rio Vista for a week, Redding for two weeks, back down to Fresno, Bakersfield, Stockton, Chico ...

Summer after summer after summer ... your own home sits empty half the year, you'll only use it in winter ... thus my suggestion keeping your home in southern Mexico ... cheaper ... picking crops is usually piece work, why we see entire families out there in the fields ... rural California schools stay closed until the crops are all in ... Trump country, you'd fit in well ...