Zone1 If welfare recipients are buying expensive toys, is that a sign we are giving too much free stuff?

[Dogmaphobe]

You should start a discussion on the difference between a liberal and a leftist. I have been told the opposite of what you are saying here…..that the liberals are destroying the leftists.

MinTrut used to say that, but the creature is SEVERELY mentally ill.

 

[Picaro]

It is remarkable the GLEE with which liberals anticipate seeing the self-supportimg middle class’ retirement portfolios wiped out, isn’t it?

You sound exactly like all the tards who lost their asses in every bubble since the 1790's. "It wasn't my fault!!! It wuz those lazy poor people who made me go bankrupt betting on bubbles!!!" lol

 

[Mr. Friscus]

The largest recipients of welfare are the elderly and the young.

And?

 

[initforme]

Welfare is a highly necessary aspect of capitalism

 

[Jarlaxle]

You sound exactly like all the tards who lost their asses in every bubble since the 1790's. "It wasn't my fault!!! It wuz those lazy poor people who made me go bankrupt betting on bubbles!!!" lol

You're a dumbass.

More projection.

 

[candycorn]

Does the money come from the famous tree we’ve heard so much about?

Do you want to tell us about this famous tree?

 

[fncceo]

Do you want to tell us about this famous tree?

Apparently the one upon which money grows so that taxpayer don’t pay for welfare receipts.

 

[Leo123]

I am legally handicapped and still work.​

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So, 'expanded work requirements' is somehow a bad thing? Trying to stay within spending limits is somehow a bad thing? Glad you can work but, it ain't all about you Moonie.

 

[candycorn]

Apparently the one upon which money grows so that taxpayer don’t pay for welfare receipts.

Taxpayers do pay. Folks on welfare pay taxes too.

 

[Lisa558]

Taxpayers do pay. Folks on welfare pay taxes too.

They are not paying federal income taxes - and that’s where their welfare comes from. They are net takers, sometimes by as much as $40,000 a year depending on how many illegitimate kids they have.

These people need to start working.

 

[candycorn]

They are not paying federal income taxes - and that’s where their welfare comes from.

Pretty broad statement to make with zero citations. But if you’re right, they are just like many large US corporations.

55 Corporations Paid $0 in Federal Taxes on 2020 Profits

At least 55 of the largest corporations in America paid no federal corporate income taxes in their most recent fiscal year despite enjoying substantial pretax profits in the United States. This continues a decades-long trend of corporate tax avoidance by the biggest U.S. corporations, and it...

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They are net takers, sometimes by as much as $40,000 a year depending on how many illegitimate kids they have.

Most red states are net-takers too. Is it because of of all of the illegitimate kids they have in possum holler?

"For example, Hale County, Alabama. Nearly one in four working age people are not working, because they're disabled. One in four. What is going on there? Well, last fall, this reporter, Chana Joffe-Walt, who's with Planet Money, she went to Hale county to try to figure out what was going on there. And her experience there was the beginning of a six-month-long obsession with our nation's disability programs."

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/490/transcript

These people need to start working.

Again, quite a broad statement to make with zero citations.

 

[fncceo]

Taxpayers do pay. Folks on welfare pay taxes too.

Most healthcare benefits and welfare payments are non-taxable according to The IRS.

 

[candycorn]

Most healthcare benefits and welfare payments are non-taxable according to The IRS.

Paychecks don't seem to have that stipulation.

 

[IM2]

“The American government spends more on corporate welfare than it does on food stamps and financial assistance for needy families with children.”

 

[Mac-7]

I know a poor family.
Their kids wear Rolex Watches, diamond necklaces, eat caviar and lobster and have designer clothes

I think we give our poor people too much

If it was up to me, they would live in tents, eat Road Kill and have to work sweeping our streets with tooth brushes.

That would build character

If the single mother plays the EITC game (and all of them do) she can get a check from Uncle Sugar if around $8,000 to spend on anything they like

Each year beginning in January a type of madness grips the hood as the downtrodden run out and spend the money as fast as they can

 

[fncceo]

Paychecks don't seem to have that stipulation.

If you have a paycheck, why are you taking welfare?

 

[peacefan]

Sarcasm. What libsters do when they can’t respond to the obvious question:

if welfare recipients are buying $100 toys for their first-graders, is that a sign we are giving them more free money than necessary? After all, WE are the ones paying for it, so it’s a fair question.

maybe we should start treating handouts in a budgetted envelopes kind of way.

 

[Lisa558]

maybe we should start treating handouts in a budgetted envelopes kind of way.

Or less altogether. If welfare recipients can afford $100 toys, they don’t as much as responsible people are giving them.

 

[Lisa558]

Pretty broad statement to make with zero citations. But if you’re right, they are just like many large US corporations.

55 Corporations Paid $0 in Federal Taxes on 2020 Profits

At least 55 of the largest corporations in America paid no federal corporate income taxes in their most recent fiscal year despite enjoying substantial pretax profits in the United States. This continues a decades-long trend of corporate tax avoidance by the biggest U.S. corporations, and it...

itep.org

Most red states are net-takers too. Is it because of of all of the illegitimate kids they have in possum holler?

"For example, Hale County, Alabama. Nearly one in four working age people are not working, because they're disabled. One in four. What is going on there? Well, last fall, this reporter, Chana Joffe-Walt, who's with Planet Money, she went to Hale county to try to figure out what was going on there. And her experience there was the beginning of a six-month-long obsession with our nation's disability programs."

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/490/transcript

Again, quite a broad statement to make with zero citations.

If some corporations paid no taxes, they had a bad year or made investments that brought their taxes down to zero - investments to grow the business, hire even more people, and those people in turn pay taxes. The corporations are contributing either directly or indirectly to the tax revenues.

Raise the taxes on corporations - and middle-class retirement funds come down, and companies can’t hire as many people and thus fewer people are paying in. I can understand why YOU don’t get the basics of Econ 101, but someone with an economics degree like Harris should know better.

The areas in red states where most of the welfare people live are the blue cities. Just look at New Orleans, as an example. What a cesspool.

And do the welfare people work? Some have little part-time jobs, others don’t work at all. So what’s your point? The point is that they are given so much free money from other people that they can afford $100 toys in an economic environment where middle class people cannot.

 

[Lisa558]

Most healthcare benefits and welfare payments are non-taxable according to The IRS.

That means that a family of five getting $1000 in food stamps is equivalent to $1300. Then figure in the big rent subsidies, the free health care, and whatnot, and it’s equivalent to a full-time job. No wonder they have no incentive to work.

An idea would be to tie welfare dollars to work. No “pay” unless you earn an equivalent amount. So if you’re getting $1000 in food stamps, then you have to have a part-time job where you earn $1000. Around me, McDonalds and Target pay $15 an hour - 20 hours is $300 a week. You’ve earned $1200. Done.