"If the Moscow empire collapses, then the Muscovites " as an ethnic group "may not survive" - Putin

[Litwin]

Let them follow Lenin, and his admirable support for 'the right of nations to self-determination'.

which was a Moscow lie, was used only for propaganda, in reality Moscow Bolsheviks lost all fare elections and instead use brutal imperialist force: Belarus, UPR, Estonia, Finland , Georgia etc.
ps great post man !

 

[Litwin]

The ethnic Russians would be far better off, considering what's coming in the future, if their nationality corresponded pretty closely with their borders. Let the non-Russians go. By being slaves to the irrational 'sacredness of boundaries', they're storing up trouble for themselves later.

Let them follow Lenin, and his admirable support for 'the right of nations to self-determination'.

But here are our differences: I admire the Russian people. I lived for a while in Soviet Ukraine, and have several good Russian and Ukainian, and Russian-Ukrainian friends and acquaintances. They're lovely people -- give you the shirt off their back.

And I agree with Richard Nixon that 'the Russians are a great nation'. Anyone who knows anything about mathematics, physics, music, or literature will agree with me.

But you seem to have a hatred for Russians as such. We can learn a lot from Marx and Engels, whose ideals were not wrong. It was their deductions from their theory that were wrong, i.e. that socialism would prove even more productive than capitalism.

For instance, they believed that 'the workers have no country'. But they could not escape their German nationalism, and there are some nasty racist quotes made by them about Blacks, Jews, Slavs, etc, some of them in the justifiable context of wanting to see all mankind advance out barbarism into modernity, others just out of exasperation at the foolish romantic choice of a certain daughter.

(It's really funny to see the folks at Marxists.org, which is a kind of online archive of writings by Marx/Engels and other Marxists, say the sensible thing about these embarrassing quotes -- ie "they were men of their time" -- when Leftists refuse to apply this commonsense judgement to the Founding Fathers.)

Really, you ought to meet some of my Russian friends. It might change your mind about Russians as whole, who are not different from the rest of us: easily swayed by patriotic fervor. Group-think is generally bad for any nationality.

The whole “New February 1917” is his way of saying “Bolshevik plot” which is his way of saying “Jewish conspiracy,” isn’t it?

 

[Litwin]

I'm not sure who will kill who first....1917

 

[Doug1943]

The whole “New February 1917” is his way of saying “Bolshevik plot” which is his way of saying “Jewish conspiracy,” isn’t it?

Sorry, don't know what you're talking about here. What is "The whole 'New February 1917'" thing? And who is the person you're referring to as talking about a "Bolshevik plot"? (As a euphemism for "Jewish conspiracy")? I think you may be replying to someone else.

 

[Litwin]

'New February 1917'"

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Murz is a leading Muscovite Nazi, he sees the Jewish conspiracy everywhere

 

[Litwin]

the person

very good news

THE LEADING PRO- PUTIN MILITARY EXPERT : "time is now on Ukrainian side"

"Everything is going according to plan." - Saddam Putsein Baron ANY COMMENT ON this ? THE LEADING PRO- PUTIN MILITARY EXPERT : "time is now on Ukrainian side"

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[luiza]

THE BAKHMUT MASSACRE MAKES HORRIFIC READING

Multiple soldiers say Bakhmut troops are barely given enough time to learn to shoot a rifle – sometimes their training is just 2 weeks, before they’re dropped into the hottest parts of the most intense current battle of the war. They would have preferred for troops to get a minimum of two or three months of training before being deployed to such a hot spot.
“Two weeks’ live training and they’re sent here. You can’t do that,” says the older Serhiy. “Or it’s a person who once served in the army, how long ago was that? Obviously they forgot everything.”
“We were promised that we wouldn’t be sent to the zero line right away, that at first we’d be sent to the second or third line,” he continues. “And then we came here in the middle of the night and they immediately sent us to Bakhmut.”
According to both soldiers named Serhiy, most brigades are insufficiently trained and lack the experience for an environment as brutal as Bakhmut. People are taken at night to a place they’d never seen before and the battle starts in the morning.
“This is why positions are abandoned, people are there for the first time,” says the younger Serhiy. “I went to a position three times and was given six people who hadn’t fought at all before. We had a few dead and wounded that had to be evacuated… Our people are not being protected.”
Oleksandr confirms that while some battalions fighting in Bakhmut are well-trained and ready, most of them aren’t and many were thrown in at night without much preparation. “Yes, that’s true, my battalion was not prepared,” he says. After five months without a single break from the fighting, only half of Oleksandr’s battalion is left, he says.
“They shouldn’t have rushed to throw everyone in there,” says the younger Serhiy. “Better to abandon those positions, who cares? It’s better to properly train people.”

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"If the Moscow empire collapses, then the Muscovites " as an ethnic group "may not survive" - Putin

pootler is wrong as usual , Muscovy ´d do just fine without the colonies , do you agree ?

Muscovy ´d do just fine without the colonies , do you agree ?
Yes, I do agree !
no. putin is right

^ shows the WEF map of a broken up Russia, claims Putin is crazy to say the West wants to break up the Russia.

 

[Litwin]

^ shows the WEF map of a broken up Russia, claims Putin is crazy to say the West wants to break up the Russia.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Uncle Vlad will smash the Fascists at the WEF

 

[Doug1943]

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Murz is a leading Muscovite Nazi, he sees the Jewish conspiracy everywhere

Who is "Murz"?
Yes, there is a strong anti-Semitic streak in Russian nationalism, and you see it openly displayed on various pro-Russian websites. I've been surprised by that, because it's not smart.
In the West, it loses the Russians much more support than it gains them.
There is a strain of thought among American conservatives which, at one point, admired Putin, despite his assaults on Russian democracy, because he was 'on their side' in the culture war.
Here's an example, not the most egregious one:

Putin’s War at Ten Months
For people who thought that Vladimir Putin was a first-rate statesman, the last ten months have have been a huge disappointment.

Putin’s War at Ten Months

For people who thought that Vladimir Putin was a first-rate statesman, the last ten months have have been a huge disappointment.

twilightpatriot.substack.com

Perhaps the Russians don't realize the strength of 'Christian Zionism' in the US.

And their attempts to foment violence in the US via those glavset boys is also stupid and counter-productive.

As for Lenin's call for the right of self-determination for the other nationalities in Russian Empire's "Prisonhouse of Nations".
Of course it was sincere when he was not in power -- and it was aimed in part at another wing of the Marxist movement, exemplified by Rosa Luxemburg, who, following a kind of 'mechanical Marxist' economic determinism, said that demanding the 'Right to Self-determination' under capitalism was like demanding the 'right to fly' -- it was impossible. But Lenin was the superior tactician here.

The problem started after the Bolsheviks seized power -- then they faced the problem that the forces advocating 'self-determination' -- for example, in 'Menshevik Georgia', were also -- from their point of view -- counter-revolutionary. (Later, Trotsky would try to square the circle by calling for 'an independent Soviet Ukraine'.)

As for whether the Bolsheviks ever had a 'majority' in Russia, that's more complicated than it looks. Remember that the October Revolution was originally for the purpose of transferring power to the Soviets (Councils), where, after the Revolution, the Bolsheviks were in coalition with the Left Socialist Revolutionaries, who probably represented the majority of the peasants, certainly the peasants-in-uniform.

But as events developed -- with the Bolsheviks wanting to make an immediate peace with the Germans, no matter how harsh the Germans' terms, and the Left SR's being patriots and opposing this -- things deteriorated.

Wars and civil wars are very poor laboratories for growing liberal democracies. We owe our liberties and belief (in theory) in limited government to the English Revolution, which ended up with Cromwell's dictatorship. Nor was, if you were an American Loyalist, the American Revolution all sweetness and light towards people who were, as the Revolutionaries saw it, counter-revolutionaries.

Anyway, it's more complicated than can be seriously discussed in a forum like this.

I would urge everyone, Left or Right, to have a go at reading Trotsky's History of the Russian Revolution, available for free from Marxists Internet Archive . It's obviously partisan, but beautifully written (translated into English by the poet Max Eastman), and there are important lessons for patriots about how to maneuver in turbulent times, when you are minority, but with a program that appeals to many outside your ranks. You can counterbalance it with Orlando Figge's A Peoples Tragedy.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Well he ain't gonna run out of cash ...fodder .....

you seem to be outta men though

Did those lepords come with full tanks of diesel made from Russian oil? Just wondering

Look at those staunch allies on the list

Oh fodder say it ain't so

 

[Litwin]

Who is "Murz"?

Murz = Andrey Morozov, a famous Nazi pro - putin blogger

Russia’s pro-war bloggers become a serious threat to the Kremlin — The Bell — Eng

This week’s fighting saw Ukraine’s armed forces inflict a major defeat on Russia, almost completely liberating the Kharkiv region. Neither Russian nor Ukrainian officials offered any significant information about the course of the offensive and, unsurprisingly, the gap was filled by bloggers and...

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[luiza]

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End of your Nazi friends , TitLoser.
Nazis taking a horrible beating.

They get the positions where we are, establish the coordinates, then they hit us from seven to nine kilometers out with mortars,” as well as from closer by with grenade launchers, says the older Serhiy. “They wait for the house to fall so we have to jump out. The building catches fire and then they finish us off.”

“Their birds come out and they chase us with fire,” adds the younger Serhiy, referring to Russian UAVs, like quadcopters and Orlan-10 fixed wing drones that spot distant heavy weapons. “They hit accurately.”

 

[Litwin]

Well he ain't gonna run out of cash

POOtin´s GEO-STRATEGISTS didn´t tell him that all wars run on lines of credits

, which Moscow empire dont have

The latest information from the Ministry of Finance of Moscow empire on the state of Moscow empire´s budget means that if the trend continues, the liquid balances of the NWF (oil - gas fund) will be exhausted by May-June. Putin has no more piggy bank left.

BREAKING: Ukraine - Moscow war ´ll end May-June 2023. Moscow ´s Ministry of Finance REPORTS : the liquid balances of the NWF (oil - gas fund) will be exhausted by May-June.

 

[luiza]

End of your Nazi friends , TitLoser.
Nazis taking a horrible beating.

They get the positions where we are, establish the coordinates, then they hit us from seven to nine kilometers out with mortars,” as well as from closer by with grenade launchers, says the older Serhiy. “They wait for the house to fall so we have to jump out. The building catches fire and then they finish us off.”

“Their birds come out and they chase us with fire,” adds the younger Serhiy, referring to Russian UAVs, like quadcopters and Orlan-10 fixed wing drones that spot distant heavy weapons. “They hit accurately.”

 

[Litwin]

cash

BREAKING: The Commander of the US Air Force in Europe, James Hecker, has stated that Ukraine is already using U.S.-donated JDAM smart bombs.

a game changer ? Moscow horde´s war record :- 1856 defeated by Britain and France 1905 defeated by Japan 1917 defeated by Germany 1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states 1939 defeated by Finland 1969 defeated by China 1989 defeated by Afghanistan 1989 defeated...

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[Litwin]

Who is "Murz"?

Moscow RT.RU CAN not HIDE THE TRUTH ANYMORE

 

[luiza]

End of your Nazi friends , TitLoser.
Nazis taking a horrible beating.

They get the positions where we are, establish the coordinates, then they hit us from seven to nine kilometers out with mortars,” as well as from closer by with grenade launchers, says the older Serhiy. “They wait for the house to fall so we have to jump out. The building catches fire and then they finish us off.”
“Their birds come out and they chase us with fire,” adds the younger Serhiy, referring to Russian UAVs, like quadcopters and Orlan-10 fixed wing drones that spot distant heavy weapons. “They hit accurately.”

 

[Doug1943]

BREAKING: The Commander of the US Air Force in Europe, James Hecker, has stated that Ukraine is already using U.S.-donated JDAM smart bombs.

a game changer ? Moscow horde´s war record :- 1856 defeated by Britain and France 1905 defeated by Japan 1917 defeated by Germany 1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states 1939 defeated by Finland 1969 defeated by China 1989 defeated by Afghanistan 1989 defeated...

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Hmmm... there's one minor little scuffle in between '1939 Finland' and '1969 China' that was left out of that list which is trying to prove how bad the Russians are at war. That little scuffle was seen by the Russian people as involving their very existence.

Seeing the disgusting ridicule and hatred directed by both sides here at the people, not the rulers, of the opposing side makes me remember why, as a teenager, I was so attacted to Marxism and its "Workers of the world unite!" internationalism.