if tariffs are so amazing, why are the markets tanking?

[Luckyone]

Most of what we are seeing is hysteria induced, by the Democrats telling everyone the sky is falling.

Oh sure, hysteria has caused the market to lose $4 trillion dollars, has caused the billionaires to lose $400 billion and has caused Musk to lose $91 billion (1/3 or his net worth). This big in-the-know people are induced by hysteria, right?

 

[80zephyr]

Oh sure, hysteria has caused the market to lose $4 trillion dollars, has caused the billionaires to lose $400 billion and has caused Musk to lose $91 billion (1/3 or his net worth). This big in-the-know people are induced by hysteria, right?

Yep. Because the little people reacted, and sank the market.

 

[Luckyone]

Yep. Because the little people reacted, and sank the market.

In-the-know people with big money do not act hysterically. Computers and algorithms (70% of all trading in the market) have no emotions. Institutional funds know the facts and do not get hysterical. People like you that trade the market might get hysterical but that is only about 3% of the market and, as such, do not affect the market.

People with the big money do not get hysterical. They just sell when they see things going bad. That is not hysteria, that is KNOWLEDGE!

 

[80zephyr]

In-the-know people with big money do not act hysterically. Computers and algorithms (70% of all trading in the market) have no emotions. Institutional funds know the facts and do not get hysterical. People like you that trade the market might get hysterical but that is only about 3% of the market and, as such, do not affect the market.

People with the big money do not get hysterical. They just sell when they see things going bad. That is not hysteria, that is KNOWLEDGE!

And yet, any little thing that happens sets the markets into a tither.

BTW, let me ask you a question. Manufacturing is a matter of national security. Do we really want our cell phones, computer chips, etc., provided to us by other nations?

 

[Luckyone]

And yet, any little thing that happens sets the markets into a tither.

BTW, let me ask you a question. Manufacturing is a matter of national security. Do we really want our cell phones, computer chips, etc., provided to us by other nations?

you call raising tariffs like no other president has ever done, a "little thing"? Hahahaha

You call the market losing $5 trillion dollars, Billionaires losing $500 billion and Musk losing 1/3 of his fortune, a "little thing"? Hahahaha

 

[80zephyr]

you call raising tariffs like no other president has ever done, a "little thing"? Hahahaha

You call the market losing $5 trillion dollars, Billionaires losing $500 billion and Musk losing 1/3 of his fortune, a "little thing"? Hahahaha

No. I said the market will react to any stimulus, even small things. You said these billionaires are smart, and yet they react to the little things as well.

 

[Luckyone]

No. I said the market will react to any stimulus, even small things. You said these billionaires are smart, and yet they react to the little things as well.

There is never anything "little" about Trump. It was the same thing with Carter, when he was president. Carter moved the market big time, every time he spoke. The same thing with Trump.

This tariff war he has gotten us into is going to cause BIG damage. There is nothing little about "big".

 

[80zephyr]

There is never anything "little" about Trump. It was the same thing with Carter, when he was president. Carter moved the market big time, every time he spoke. The same thing with Trump.

This tariff war he has gotten us into is going to cause BIG damage. There is nothing little about "big".

Manufacturing is a matter of national security. What is your solution?

 

[Luckyone]

Manufacturing is a matter of national security. What is your solution?

Let me ask you an easy question. Has anything gone wrong in a big way for the past 50 years, that means that NOW this problem needs to be fixed?

and FIXED to where the people that will pay a high price for "fixing it" will be you and I? How will we gain anything by fixing the manufacturing problem?

I do agree that some things need to be fixed, but do they need to be fixed this way? By doing something so dramatic that has caused the entire market to drop some 20% in value?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

So, here's the deal. Today, the NASDAQ and Dow Jones had their worst quarter since 2022. That's right. things are looking pretty grim. And yet, some fellow Trump supporters are still out here singing the praises of Trump's tariffs like they're the best thing since sliced bread. But if these tariffs are so amazing, why are the markets tanking?

At the end of the day, the stock market doesn't lie. If Trump's tariffs were really the economic miracle some people claim, we wouldn't be seeing this kind of downturn. So, to all the tariff lovers out there: maybe it's time to rethink your stance. Or at least stop pretending the stock market isn't screaming at us to do better

Stocks close out their worst quarter since 2022 amid tariff uncertainty

The S&P 500 and the Nasdaq logged their worst performance since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine slammed into the global economy.

www.nbcnews.com

Because investors like status quo.
They have been doing ENORMOUSLY good for the past 20 years since everything they have ever asked for has been granted by Congress - both sides.
They don't like Tariffs because half their money is in Chinese companies and other foreign companies.
These people have made most of their money off the backs of economic slaves in Asia. Why the hell would they like Tariffs???

 

[Concerned American]

No. I said the market will react to any stimulus, even small things. You said these billionaires are smart, and yet they react to the little things as well.

They're taking profits right now--the rise will follow. That's how the market works.

 

[80zephyr]

Let me ask you an easy question. Has anything gone wrong in a big way for the past 50 years, that means that NOW this problem needs to be fixed?

and FIXED to where the people that will pay a high price for "fixing it" will be you and I? How will we gain anything by fixing the manufacturing problem?

I do agree that some things need to be fixed, but do they need to be fixed this way? By doing something so dramatic that has caused the entire market to drop some 20% in value?

This problem should have been fixed decades ago. It has gotten worse. NOW is the time to make sure we are safe. You know very few pieces of our electronic equipment is made here? Do we even have the capability anymore? Our "allies" have been taking advantage of us since WWII. It is high time we tell them "enough!"

 

[el midgetron]

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Nancy Pelosi in 1996 advocating for "reciprocal tariffs..."

Of course, this was before she got rich shipping jobs overseas...

 

[Supposn]

So, here's the deal. Today, the NASDAQ and Dow Jones had their worst quarter since 2022. That's right. things are looking pretty grim. And yet, some fellow Trump supporters are still out here singing the praises of Trump's tariffs like they're the best thing since sliced bread. But if these tariffs are so amazing, why are the markets tanking?

At the end of the day, the stock market doesn't lie. If Trump's tariffs were really the economic miracle some people claim, we wouldn't be seeing this kind of downturn. So, to all the tariff lovers out there: maybe it's time to rethink your stance. Or at least stop pretending the stock market isn't screaming at us to do better

Stocks close out their worst quarter since 2022 amid tariff uncertainty

The S&P 500 and the Nasdaq logged their worst performance since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine slammed into the global economy.

www.nbcnews.com

Conservative from Georgia, tariffs are not so amazing. Unless the tariff nation chooses them wisely,they're very often net detrimental to their nation's own economy. USA tariffs that differentiate between nations are very likely to be detrimental to our nation. Government should try confine itself to broad policies. It gets lost in the "weeds of minusher".

But USA's chronic annual trade deficits are detrimental to the numbers of USA jobs; thus in aggregate, net detrimental to wage dependent families.

The little known proposal for an Import Certificates, (IC) policy may be "so amazing".
Linkto Importcertificates - Wikipedia .

Unfortunately,similar to tariffs, IC policy would, (as U.S. Tariffs do) increase prices of imported goods consumed in the USA. Unlike tariffs which are effective only to the extent of those increased prices, IC policy is almost, if not entirely effective regardless of whatever are those price increases. Additionally, any portion of those price increases beyond our federal government's direct expenditures due to administrating the policy, (e.g. increases due to markets), would serve as an indirect but effective price subsidy of USA exports. That further increases USA's annual GDPs.

Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Supposn]

El Midgeton, the price of Indian manhole covers delivere to NY City are cheaper than any that are or could be manufactured in the USA. This is of some advantage to NY City's government, and to their taxpayers.

You're likely aware of USA's chronic annual negative balances of global trade being detrimental to USA's numbers of jobs; thus detrimental to the finances of wage-dependent families, and to the federal and states' governments' unemployment insurance programs, and to USA's taxpayers.
I'm among the proponents of ImportCertificates, (IC) policy; linkto Importcertificates- Wikipedia .

Unfortunately,similar to tariffs, IC policy would, (as U.S. Tariffs do) increase prices ofimported goods consumed in the USA. Unlike tariffs which are effective only to the extent of those increased prices, IC policy is almost, if not entirely effective regardless of whatever are those price increases. Additionally, any portion of those price increases beyond our federal government's direct expenditures due to administrating the policy, (e.g. increases due to markets), would serve as an indirect but effective price subsidy of USA exports. That further increases USA's annual GDPs.
Respectfully, Supposn

 

[jbrownson0831]

So, here's the deal. Today, the NASDAQ and Dow Jones had their worst quarter since 2022. That's right. things are looking pretty grim. And yet, some fellow Trump supporters are still out here singing the praises of Trump's tariffs like they're the best thing since sliced bread. But if these tariffs are so amazing, why are the markets tanking?

At the end of the day, the stock market doesn't lie. If Trump's tariffs were really the economic miracle some people claim, we wouldn't be seeing this kind of downturn. So, to all the tariff lovers out there: maybe it's time to rethink your stance. Or at least stop pretending the stock market isn't screaming at us to do better

Stocks close out their worst quarter since 2022 amid tariff uncertainty

The S&P 500 and the Nasdaq logged their worst performance since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine slammed into the global economy.

www.nbcnews.com

It's okay, Dimtard from Dunwoody, your SNAP card remains unaffected and you can still remain unemployed.

 

[Supposn]

So, here's the deal. Today, the NASDAQ and Dow Jones had their worst quarter since 2022. That's right. things are looking pretty grim. And yet, some fellow Trump supporters are still out here singing the praises of Trump's tariffs like they're the best thing since sliced bread. But if these tariffs are so amazing, why are the markets tanking?

At the end of the day, the stock market doesn't lie. If Trump's tariffs were really the economic miracle some people claim, we wouldn't be seeing this kind of downturn. So, to all the tariff lovers out there: maybe it's time to rethink your stance. Or at least stop pretending the stock market isn't screaming at us to do better

Stocks close out their worst quarter since 2022 amid tariff uncertainty

The S&P 500 and the Nasdaq logged their worst performance since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine slammed into the global economy.

www.nbcnews.com

Conservative from Geogiaa, tariffs are a tax paid by the direct or indirect purchasers and/or users of foreign goods subject to the specific tariff.
A nation's tariffs cannot achieve their government's purposes unless the tariff rate's are sufficiently high; but governments levying tariffs, particularly very high tariff rates, often do their nation net economic harm and fail to achieve whatever were any other of their intended purposes.

I'm among the proponents for USA adopting a unilateral foreign trade policy described in Wikipedia's article entitled “Import Certificates”, (IC policy). Link to: Import certificates - Wikipedia .

IC is a proposed foreign trade policy superior to both the policies of tariffs and to “pure” free trade.
I'm prepared to argue in favor of IC. Respectfully, Supposn