If it's Sanders vs Trump who ya voting for?

It is no more of an Oligarchy than it was under Obama. If you want to live in a Socialist country you have lots of choices, don't mess this one up.
This is one is already messed up beyond repair. Which is why Sanders either helps the lower and middle class and/or the establishment will freak out and try something stupid and it will be the downfall of this piece of shit government we have. It works for the 1% and that's it.
What kind of help do you think the low and middle class need?
Universal healthcare,education, paid maternity leave. This isn't just for the middle class but this is the people that get screwed over and over and over.
 
It is no more of an Oligarchy than it was under Obama. If you want to live in a Socialist country you have lots of choices, don't mess this one up.
This is one is already messed up beyond repair. Which is why Sanders either helps the lower and middle class and/or the establishment will freak out and try something stupid and it will be the downfall of this piece of shit government we have. It works for the 1% and that's it.
What kind of help do you think the low and middle class need?
Universal healthcare,education, paid maternity leave. This isn't just for the middle class but this is the people that get screwed over and over and over.
I support improving all of those things. The question is, what’s the best way to get the best results.... Sanders has a bunch of radical ideas that sound great but falls very short of explaining how to actually get them done.

You seem to have a negative outlook on our government... so do you really think they will do a better job handling healthcare than the private sector? We can look at the VA and grade the job they do. Don’t know why that isn’t discussed more. The VA only covers a small Fraction of our citizens so if we are extend that program to everybody we better be damn sure the small sample system is humming, don’t you think?
 
There is no coming back from communism.
Good thing there is no Communist running and good if electing a Democratic Socialist is what brings this oligarchy that benefits the 1% to its knees then so be it! I can't wait for the sky to fall because EVERYONE is given what 95% of the world already has.
Universal Healthcare
Universal Education
Paid Maternity Leave
 
Just curious here. Talking with some friends and we are of like mind we would prefer Sanders at least his economic policies would help the lower/middle class OR it would destroy the system. With Trump he will probably push amnesty,gun control and will never take us out of the ME wars. I think Sanders is the strongest against Trump especially in Michigan,Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Trump's tax cuts have helped the wealthy and ain't done shit for the working class while I expect one way or another Sanders to really throw a wrench into the elitists plans in DC. He ain't perfect by no means he took money to back Clinton in 16 etc but his economic policies would actually help workers not CEO's.
Sanders....hands down.
 
Truly, a great number of people may be drawn to a message of "Make it work for us or make it stop working!".
Yes make it work for the American worker or shut it all down
Only the young and naïve will vote for the Pinko and 10 years from now they won't believe they were so stupid.
That's how I feel about Trump and the fact I voted for him in 2016. I was naive to believe a billionaire rich asshole would give a shit about the working man.


So more jobs and increased income somehow translates into not caring about the poor and middle class?
I dont know where you people get your news from but it just might be time to broaden your horizons.
 
Just curious here. Talking with some friends and we are of like mind we would prefer Sanders at least his economic policies would help the lower/middle class OR it would destroy the system. With Trump he will probably push amnesty,gun control and will never take us out of the ME wars. I think Sanders is the strongest against Trump especially in Michigan,Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Trump's tax cuts have helped the wealthy and ain't done shit for the working class while I expect one way or another Sanders to really throw a wrench into the elitists plans in DC. He ain't perfect by no means he took money to back Clinton in 16 etc but his economic policies would actually help workers not CEO's.
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Bernie would probably be my last choice out of the Democratic candidates....

But if it were to end up being Sanders vs Trump, without question, Sanders....

And Sanders would have a good if not the best shot at beating Trump... because his supporters have fire in their veins, they believe and support most all of his policies with utter passion.... have been crapped on for years... whenever Democrats have had the support of people under 40 who have grievances, want change, change that helps them... for once.... they end up winning! Clinton, Barack Obama, and even Trump won in the same manner.... his supporters, though older and less diversified, had that same fire in their veins only their primary grievance was with immigrants, and the establishment....

Bernie has programs for the middle to lower middle class that are truly hurtin' badly, and the crush the establishment spiel like Trump....

The reason I worry naught with Bernie is because he's only a one term president, he's too old to go a second round with his heart problems and age, and it is not that easy to accomplish your promises, when you follow the law and rules and norms.... look at Trump, who has broken every presidential rule and norm still does NOT have that 1800 mile big beautiful wall that Mexico was going to pay for....never got rid of the swamp, he increased it, never gave his better and cheaper health insurance plan, etc... yet, the Republican establishment got all their conservative to the hilt, judges... and Trump got a few token unqualified friends....

mY CONCERN, is the down ballot races with Bernie as the candidate at the top... will Dems lose seats?
Yes they will and they know it. It was just a few months ago that the pundits were encouraging republicans to retire or withdraw. Today republicans are looking at a sweep of the house, increasing in the Senate and a landslide presidential election.
 
There is no coming back from communism.
Good thing there is no Communist running and good if electing a Democratic Socialist is what brings this oligarchy that benefits the 1% to its knees then so be it! I can't wait for the sky to fall because EVERYONE is given what 95% of the world already has.
Universal Healthcare
Universal Education
Paid Maternity Leave
Rationed healthcare. Little education. Mandatory abortion.

Ask Cuba how well communism worked forgo them?
 
There is no coming back from communism.
Good thing there is no Communist running and good if electing a Democratic Socialist is what brings this oligarchy that benefits the 1% to its knees then so be it! I can't wait for the sky to fall because EVERYONE is given what 95% of the world already has.
Universal Healthcare
Universal Education
Paid Maternity Leave
Rationed healthcare. Little education. Mandatory abortion.

Ask Cuba how well communism worked forgo them?
Lol...sure sure...you are clearly another product of the American Public Education system...poor things can't tell the difference between Communism and Democratic Socialism.
 
Truly, a great number of people may be drawn to a message of "Make it work for us or make it stop working!".
Yes make it work for the American worker or shut it all down
Only the young and naïve will vote for the Pinko and 10 years from now they won't believe they were so stupid.
That's how I feel about Trump and the fact I voted for him in 2016. I was naive to believe a billionaire rich asshole would give a shit about the working man.
That's pretty funny. You voted for Trump in '16 and he did almost everything he said he would. Now you hate him? Do you hate success or maybe you have been totally bamboozled by the bogus investigations?
 
Truly, a great number of people may be drawn to a message of "Make it work for us or make it stop working!".
Yes make it work for the American worker or shut it all down
Only the young and naïve will vote for the Pinko and 10 years from now they won't believe they were so stupid.
That's how I feel about Trump and the fact I voted for him in 2016. I was naive to believe a billionaire rich asshole would give a shit about the working man.
That's pretty funny. You voted for Trump in '16 and he did almost everything he said he would. Now you hate him? Do you hate success or maybe you have been totally bamboozled by the bogus investigations?
No he hasn't done much at all he said he would do. Still at war, Still no wall, still allowing the country to be flooded with invaders but HEY they are legal so who gives a shit. No tax cut for the MIDDLE CLASS that's permanent. No paid maternity leave no better healthcare...jesus I can go on and on.
 
There is no coming back from communism.
Good thing there is no Communist running and good if electing a Democratic Socialist is what brings this oligarchy that benefits the 1% to its knees then so be it! I can't wait for the sky to fall because EVERYONE is given what 95% of the world already has.
Universal Healthcare
Universal Education
Paid Maternity Leave
Rationed healthcare. Little education. Mandatory abortion.

Ask Cuba how well communism worked forgo them?
Lol...sure sure...you are clearly another product of the American Public Education system...poor things can't tell the difference between Communism and Democratic Socialism.

There is NOTHING Democratic about Socialism. ZERO!
 

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