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Solar roofing tiles and panels on your home could power everyone's home in the future or at least the majority of energy needs. Would you buy such a home???

The sun is a powerful tool to power our homes.

Probably 75%-90% of our energy needs to could done with solar energy on our homes.
 
Yes, absolutely! Solar technology has evolved significantly, offering more aesthetically pleasing and integrated options beyond the traditional large, rectangular panels mounted on racks on your roof.1




Here's a breakdown:

1. Solar Tiles (or Solar Shingles) for your Roof:

  • What they are: These are roofing materials that look like conventional asphalt shingles, concrete tiles, or even slate, but they have integrated photovoltaic (PV) cells.2 They essentially serve a dual purpose: providing weather protection for your home and generating electricity from sunlight.3




  • How they work: Like traditional solar panels, they convert sunlight into direct current (DC) electricity, which is then sent to an inverter to be converted into alternating current (AC) for use in your home.
  • Aesthetics: This is their primary advantage.4 They blend seamlessly with the roof, making them much less noticeable than traditional panels.5 This is particularly appealing to homeowners who want solar but are concerned about curb appeal or have HOA restrictions.




  • Brands: Companies like Tesla (Solar Roof), GAF Energy (Timberline Solar), CertainTeed (Apollo II), and Luma Solar offer various solar shingle and tile products.
  • Considerations:
    • Cost: Solar tiles and shingles are generally more expensive upfront than traditional solar panels, often because they replace the entire roofing material.6 However, if you're already planning a roof replacement, the combined cost might be more competitive.



    • Efficiency: Some solar shingles may be slightly less efficient per square foot than high-efficiency traditional panels, meaning you might need more roof area to generate the same amount of power.7



    • Installation: Installation can be more complex, similar to installing a new roof, and may take longer.
2. Solar Panels for the Outside of Your Home (Walls/Facades/Siding):

  • Building Integrated Photovoltaics (BIPV): This is the broader term for solar technology that is integrated directly into the building's structure, rather than being an add-on.8 Solar tiles are a type of BIPV.9




  • Solar Facades/Siding: Yes, solar panels can be integrated into the vertical exterior walls of a home.10 These are often designed to look like architectural elements. While vertical surfaces receive less direct sunlight than optimally angled roofs, they can still contribute significantly to a home's energy production, especially if they face south. They can also take advantage of reflected light from the ground or other surfaces.



  • Solar Windows/Skylights: Advances in transparent or semi-transparent PV technology allow solar cells to be embedded in glass, turning windows and skylights into power generators while still allowing light through.11



  • Solar Awnings/Canopies/Carports: These structures can also have integrated solar panels, serving dual purposes of providing shade/shelter and generating electricity.12



  • Advantages of Wall-Mounted/BIPV:
    • Aesthetics: They can be designed to blend seamlessly with the building's architecture.13



    • Space Optimization: Useful for homes with limited or shaded roof space.
    • Shading/Insulation: Wall-mounted panels can provide shade, reducing heat gain in the summer and potentially lowering cooling costs.14



    • Easier Maintenance: Vertical surfaces can be easier to clean and naturally shed dust and snow better than angled roofs.
Could such power your home?

Yes, absolutely!
Whether you choose solar tiles, wall-mounted panels, or a combination of BIPV solutions, they can certainly generate enough electricity to power your home, reduce your reliance on the grid, and significantly lower your electricity bills.

  • System Sizing: The amount of power your home needs dictates how much solar capacity you'll require. A solar installer will assess your home's energy consumption, roof size and orientation, local sunlight hours, and shading to design a system that meets your needs.15



  • Battery Storage: To truly power your home "off-grid" or to have power during outages (when the sun isn't shining), you'll typically need a battery storage system (like a Tesla Powerwall or similar).16 This stores excess electricity generated during the day for use at night or when the grid is down.17




  • Grid-Tied Systems: Most residential solar systems are "grid-tied," meaning they are connected to the utility grid. When your solar system produces more power than you're using, the excess goes back to the grid (and you often get credits through "net metering").18 When your system isn't producing enough (e.g., at night), you draw power from the grid.


The technology for integrated solar solutions is continually improving, becoming more efficient, durable, and aesthetically appealing, making them a very viable option for powering homes.19
 
Yes, absolutely! Solar technology has evolved significantly, offering more aesthetically pleasing and integrated options beyond the traditional large, rectangular panels mounted on racks on your roof.1




Here's a breakdown:

1. Solar Tiles (or Solar Shingles) for your Roof:

  • What they are: These are roofing materials that look like conventional asphalt shingles, concrete tiles, or even slate, but they have integrated photovoltaic (PV) cells.2 They essentially serve a dual purpose: providing weather protection for your home and generating electricity from sunlight.3




  • How they work: Like traditional solar panels, they convert sunlight into direct current (DC) electricity, which is then sent to an inverter to be converted into alternating current (AC) for use in your home.
  • Aesthetics: This is their primary advantage.4 They blend seamlessly with the roof, making them much less noticeable than traditional panels.5 This is particularly appealing to homeowners who want solar but are concerned about curb appeal or have HOA restrictions.




  • Brands: Companies like Tesla (Solar Roof), GAF Energy (Timberline Solar), CertainTeed (Apollo II), and Luma Solar offer various solar shingle and tile products.
  • Considerations:
    • Cost: Solar tiles and shingles are generally more expensive upfront than traditional solar panels, often because they replace the entire roofing material.6 However, if you're already planning a roof replacement, the combined cost might be more competitive.



    • Efficiency: Some solar shingles may be slightly less efficient per square foot than high-efficiency traditional panels, meaning you might need more roof area to generate the same amount of power.7



    • Installation: Installation can be more complex, similar to installing a new roof, and may take longer.
2. Solar Panels for the Outside of Your Home (Walls/Facades/Siding):

  • Building Integrated Photovoltaics (BIPV): This is the broader term for solar technology that is integrated directly into the building's structure, rather than being an add-on.8 Solar tiles are a type of BIPV.9




  • Solar Facades/Siding: Yes, solar panels can be integrated into the vertical exterior walls of a home.10 These are often designed to look like architectural elements. While vertical surfaces receive less direct sunlight than optimally angled roofs, they can still contribute significantly to a home's energy production, especially if they face south. They can also take advantage of reflected light from the ground or other surfaces.



  • Solar Windows/Skylights: Advances in transparent or semi-transparent PV technology allow solar cells to be embedded in glass, turning windows and skylights into power generators while still allowing light through.11



  • Solar Awnings/Canopies/Carports: These structures can also have integrated solar panels, serving dual purposes of providing shade/shelter and generating electricity.12



  • Advantages of Wall-Mounted/BIPV:
    • Aesthetics: They can be designed to blend seamlessly with the building's architecture.13



    • Space Optimization: Useful for homes with limited or shaded roof space.
    • Shading/Insulation: Wall-mounted panels can provide shade, reducing heat gain in the summer and potentially lowering cooling costs.14



    • Easier Maintenance: Vertical surfaces can be easier to clean and naturally shed dust and snow better than angled roofs.
Could such power your home?

Yes, absolutely!
Whether you choose solar tiles, wall-mounted panels, or a combination of BIPV solutions, they can certainly generate enough electricity to power your home, reduce your reliance on the grid, and significantly lower your electricity bills.

  • System Sizing: The amount of power your home needs dictates how much solar capacity you'll require. A solar installer will assess your home's energy consumption, roof size and orientation, local sunlight hours, and shading to design a system that meets your needs.15



  • Battery Storage: To truly power your home "off-grid" or to have power during outages (when the sun isn't shining), you'll typically need a battery storage system (like a Tesla Powerwall or similar).16 This stores excess electricity generated during the day for use at night or when the grid is down.17




  • Grid-Tied Systems: Most residential solar systems are "grid-tied," meaning they are connected to the utility grid. When your solar system produces more power than you're using, the excess goes back to the grid (and you often get credits through "net metering").18 When your system isn't producing enough (e.g., at night), you draw power from the grid.

The technology for integrated solar solutions is continually improving, becoming more efficient, durable, and aesthetically appealing, making them a very viable option for powering homes.19
What is the cost of an inistallation per square?

What is the payback time?

Will the god be angry for messing wiith his climate change plans to fk over humanity?

Will the god use that for an excuse to cause another flood?
 
Solar roofing tiles and panels on your home could power everyone's home in the future or at least the majority of energy needs. Would you buy such a home???

The sun is a powerful tool to power our homes.

Probably 75%-90% of our energy needs to could done with solar energy on our homes.
Until the next storm. Hail is the death of solar tiles, not to mention the expense. My neighbor out west called to tell me there was a 20-minute hail storm that took out our house windows, car windows, boat windows. A hail storm here turned my daughter's car into a golf ball. How many times are you willing to cough up thousands for a new roof, before you decide solar roofing tiles aren't a good choice economically?

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What is the cost of an inistallation per square?

What is the payback time?

Will the god be angry for messing wiith his climate change plans to fk over humanity?

Will the god use that for an excuse to cause another flood?
Not to mention significant loss of value of your home.
Panels loose as much as 80% of their power in as little as 15 years - wildly depending on location and environment and how quality the panels are.
 
Oh - and you can't have any shade trees, which during the summer SIGNIFICANTLY increases how often the A/C runs. Furthering how many years you get ROI - if ever
 
Not to mention significant loss of value of your home.
Panels loose as much as 80% of their power in as little as 15 years - wildly depending on location and environment and how quality the panels are.
so they probably need to be replaced at least 3 times as often as traditional tiles. And then how much enrgy does it take to produce them? waste created? waste created in disposing of all the old ones?
all things to be considered. Probably the technology needs to be greatly improved before being ready for the average home owner, who first of all cant afford to do a new roof every 7 years.
 
There is a reason solar panels have a VERY bad reputation.
So many scams and overstated data.
There must be 100,000 videos of homeowner solar panel nightmares on YouTube
 
Wouldn't make sense here when snow covers the roof for a few months.
Nor on a roof with asphalt shingles that have a limited life span.
I can't imagine the cost of reroofing the house having to remove then reinstall the panels.
And yes, the mounting system puts holes in the roof for bolting that you hope hurried installers will properly seal.

The only real sensible option is a ground based system which many communities don't allow.

Our electric cost is so reasonable from our electric Co-op that I wouldn't waste the money on solar.

A small wind turbine would also make far more sense, but again, many communities won't allow it depending on zoning.
 
Until the next storm. Hail is the death of solar tiles, not to mention the expense. My neighbor out west called to tell me there was a 20-minute hail storm that took out our house windows, car windows, boat windows. A hail storm here turned my daughter's car into a golf ball. How many times are you willing to cough up thousands for a new roof, before you decide solar roofing tiles aren't a good choice economically?

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Yes and like I asked, how do you walk on your roof once you've retiled it with solar shingles?
 
Solar roofing tiles and panels on your home could power everyone's home in the future or at least the majority of energy needs. Would you buy such a home???

The sun is a powerful tool to power our homes.

Probably 75%-90% of our energy needs to could done with solar energy on our homes.
So you got yours right....
 
If it was a good idea you would already see it all over Arizona or the Southwest.

You don't see it.
 
Solar power is costly, with a limited shelf life, as its full potential continues to degrade over its lifecycle. Is the additional cost and maintenance worth the cost savings it provides over time, which a single homeowner can realize?
 
Solar power is costly, with a limited shelf life, as its full potential continues to degrade over its lifecycle. Is the additional cost and maintenance worth the cost savings it provides over time, which a single homeowner can realize?
Ive had mine for about 13 years. They are still doing pretty well. Thats less $ i am giving to the power company. Thats exhilarating.
 
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Solar power is costly, with a limited shelf life, as its full potential continues to degrade over its lifecycle. Is the additional cost and maintenance worth the cost savings it provides over time, which a single homeowner can realize?


When the development reaches a level that they are extremly cheap and the panels can be replaced as easily as changing a lightbulb, without disturbing the rest of the roof, then it will be worth it.
 
Until the next storm. Hail is the death of solar tiles, not to mention the expense. My neighbor out west called to tell me there was a 20-minute hail storm that took out our house windows, car windows, boat windows. A hail storm here turned my daughter's car into a golf ball. How many times are you willing to cough up thousands for a new roof, before you decide solar roofing tiles aren't a good choice economically?

Seriously, no appreciable solar panel array should be built with out some sort of protection built in it, such as:
  1. A protective shutter to close over the panels in a storm.
  2. Have the panels tilted upward on edge during less than sunny weather so that nothing falling from the sky strikes the panel face, automated by a computer.
 
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so they probably need to be replaced at least 3 times as often as traditional tiles. And then how much enrgy does it take to produce them? waste created? waste created in disposing of all the old ones?
all things to be considered. Probably the technology needs to be greatly improved before being ready for the average home owner, who first of all cant afford to do a new roof every 7 years.
When I graduated architectural school in 1976, we were told that solar was the "next big thing". That was 49 years ago. Lol.
 
I've had solar panels for about ten years? I dunno. Fixed contract has been saving me money since year 5. I'm good. None of those overpriced Powerwalls needed. But, this company moved in nearby recently:
Intriguing.
 
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