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Its an accurate smear against GarciaGee, what a coincidence. The trump regime fucked up, broke the law, is now refusing to comply with multiple court orders, so there's a smear campaign being launched against Garcia.
Is that the new talking point? What… Mark Levin again?I think it was an immigration judge
Which are basically just bureaucrats, clerks
I am sure the El Salvador of old send only their finest wife-beaters.Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?
On April 24, 2019—after nearly a month in custody—Abrego Garcia was taken to his removal hearing before Immigration Judge Elizabeth A. Kessler. His then-attorney, Chicas, applied for his release on bail. ICE opposed the application, arguing that Abrego Garcia presented a danger to the community because local police had identified him as a “verified” active gang member.
“I attended his bond hearing,” Jennifer writes in her declaration, “and was shocked when the government said he should stay detained because Kilmar is an MS-13 gang member. Kilmar is not and has never been a gang member. I’m certain of that.”
The allegation appears to stem from two documents that were introduced before Judge Kessler: a federal I-213 form (Record of Deportable/Inadmissible Alien), filled out by ICE, and a form generated by the Prince George’s Police Department, called a Gang Field Interview Sheet (GFIS). The latter had been entered into the Prince George’s Police Department database at 6:47 p.m. on March 28, 2019—about four hours after police met Abrego Garcia for the first time—according to Abrego Garcia’s recent complaint.
The government has not introduced either the I-213 or GFIS form in its defense of Abrego Garcia’s recent legal proceedings. The descriptions of those documents provided here are based on characterizations of them provided by Kessler in her ruling and Abrego Garcia’s current attorney in his complaint.
Apparently relying on the assertions of the I-213 form, which, in turn, apparently relied on the assertions of the GFIS, Kessler wrote: “The Respondent was arrested in the company of other ranking gang members and was confirmed to be a ranking member of the MS-13 gang by a proven and reliable source.” There is no factual evidence to support that conclusion.
But Kessler—even while crediting the government’s claim of gang membership—acknowledged that the two documents were, in at least one respect, glaringly “at odds” with one another. The federal I-213 form claimed that Abrego Garcia had been detained “in connection with a murder investigation,” while the GFIS form said he and the others had been arrested because they were “loitering outside of a Home Depot,” as Kessler wrote.
Kessler found that both documents were admissible in immigration court, notwithstanding the objection of Abrego Garcia’s then-attorney, Chicas, who protested that he’d not been permitted to cross-examine the detective whose accusations seemed to underlie both.
Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?
The allegation seems to stem from double hearsay in a document authored by a later suspended police detective.www.lawfaremedia.org
I copied and pasted as much of the article as I think board rules allow for. There is more content worth reading.
Everyone can draw their own opinions. But at least they will be based on the facts. Not the spin the admin and RWM have put on the story.
As an aside, IMO, Judge Kessler she be disbarred for her grotesquely incompetent handling of Garcia's case.
The GFIS explained that the only reason to believe Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was a gang member was that he was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie; and that a confidential informant advised that he was an active member of MS-13 with the Westerns clique. ...Its an accurate smear against Garcia
What was a Maryland illegal alien with no drivers license doing in Tenn with a car full of illegals?
And that confidential informant was never identified by the detective who was suspended just days after he filed that reportThe GFIS explained that the only reason to believe Plaintiff Abrego Garcia was a gang member was that he was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie; and that a confidential informant advised that he was an active member of MS-13 with the Westerns clique. ...
According to the Department of Justice and the Suffolk County District Attorney’s Office, the “Westerns” clique operates in Brentwood, Long Island, in New York, a state that Plaintiff Abrego Garcia has never lived in.
my goodnessAbrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?
On April 24, 2019—after nearly a month in custody—Abrego Garcia was taken to his removal hearing before Immigration Judge Elizabeth A. Kessler. His then-attorney, Chicas, applied for his release on bail. ICE opposed the application, arguing that Abrego Garcia presented a danger to the community because local police had identified him as a “verified” active gang member.
“I attended his bond hearing,” Jennifer writes in her declaration, “and was shocked when the government said he should stay detained because Kilmar is an MS-13 gang member. Kilmar is not and has never been a gang member. I’m certain of that.”
The allegation appears to stem from two documents that were introduced before Judge Kessler: a federal I-213 form (Record of Deportable/Inadmissible Alien), filled out by ICE, and a form generated by the Prince George’s Police Department, called a Gang Field Interview Sheet (GFIS). The latter had been entered into the Prince George’s Police Department database at 6:47 p.m. on March 28, 2019—about four hours after police met Abrego Garcia for the first time—according to Abrego Garcia’s recent complaint.
The government has not introduced either the I-213 or GFIS form in its defense of Abrego Garcia’s recent legal proceedings. The descriptions of those documents provided here are based on characterizations of them provided by Kessler in her ruling and Abrego Garcia’s current attorney in his complaint.
Apparently relying on the assertions of the I-213 form, which, in turn, apparently relied on the assertions of the GFIS, Kessler wrote: “The Respondent was arrested in the company of other ranking gang members and was confirmed to be a ranking member of the MS-13 gang by a proven and reliable source.” There is no factual evidence to support that conclusion.
But Kessler—even while crediting the government’s claim of gang membership—acknowledged that the two documents were, in at least one respect, glaringly “at odds” with one another. The federal I-213 form claimed that Abrego Garcia had been detained “in connection with a murder investigation,” while the GFIS form said he and the others had been arrested because they were “loitering outside of a Home Depot,” as Kessler wrote.
Kessler found that both documents were admissible in immigration court, notwithstanding the objection of Abrego Garcia’s then-attorney, Chicas, who protested that he’d not been permitted to cross-examine the detective whose accusations seemed to underlie both.
Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?
The allegation seems to stem from double hearsay in a document authored by a later suspended police detective.www.lawfaremedia.org
I copied and pasted as much of the article as I think board rules allow for. There is more content worth reading.
Everyone can draw their own opinions. But at least they will be based on the facts. Not the spin the admin and RWM have put on the story.
As an aside, IMO, Judge Kessler she be disbarred for her grotesquely incompetent handling of Garcia's case.
It's my reaction you your talking pointIs that the new talking point? What… Mark Levin again?
“Wear’s gang banger clothes..”my goodness
he hangs out with gang bangers
wheres gang banger clothes
has gang banger tattoos
Any you say he aint a gang bange. LOL
When's the last time you beat your wife
Yeah, getting MS tatted on your forehead is so fashionable these days. Do you have one yet?“Wear’s gang banger clothes..”
Yup. Arrest anyone wearing Chicago Bulls attire… and anyone witj face or neck tattoos cause ya know… gang bangers have those
I was a youth counselor for 15 years at a facility in idaho“Wear’s gang banger clothes..”
Yup. Arrest anyone wearing Chicago Bulls attire… and anyone witj face or neck tattoos cause ya know… gang bangers have those
One protective order can be explained. But two?Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, accused Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia at a news conference of being “an apparent woman beater” and abusing his spouse, Jennifer Vasquez Sura. Shortly after Leavitt’s accusation, Vasquez Sura released a statement acknowledging that she had filed for an order of protection against him in 2021 but also saying that she never took the case any further.
“After surviving domestic violence in a previous relationship, I acted out of caution after a disagreement with Kilmar by seeking a civil protective order in case things escalated,” Vasquez Sura said in the statement. “Things did not escalate and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process. We were able to work through this situation privately as a family.”
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Judges Challenge White House Over Disregard for Court Orders
www.nytimes.com
You're a real piece of shit. And so is Karoline Leavitt.
So anyone ever accused of domestic abuse is a gangbanger?I was a youth counselor for 15 years at a facility in idaho
we had gang training
The wife beater displays where his values are at
Oddly, Garcia didn’t have MS tattooed on his foreheadYeah, getting MS tatted on your forehead is so fashionable these days. Do you have one yet?
You have an active imaginationIs that the new talking point? What… Mark Levin again?
So how is it that several different right wing posters have said the same stupid shit?You have an active imagination
If thats something Mark Levin said I applaud him but its news to me
Its means he’s a scumbag illegal alien wife beater who is wasting our expensive law enforcement resources just by being hereSo anyone ever accused of domestic abuse is a gangbanger?
Screw any gamgbanger and any dem scum supporting them.Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?
On April 24, 2019—after nearly a month in custody—Abrego Garcia was taken to his removal hearing before Immigration Judge Elizabeth A. Kessler. His then-attorney, Chicas, applied for his release on bail. ICE opposed the application, arguing that Abrego Garcia presented a danger to the community because local police had identified him as a “verified” active gang member.
“I attended his bond hearing,” Jennifer writes in her declaration, “and was shocked when the government said he should stay detained because Kilmar is an MS-13 gang member. Kilmar is not and has never been a gang member. I’m certain of that.”
The allegation appears to stem from two documents that were introduced before Judge Kessler: a federal I-213 form (Record of Deportable/Inadmissible Alien), filled out by ICE, and a form generated by the Prince George’s Police Department, called a Gang Field Interview Sheet (GFIS). The latter had been entered into the Prince George’s Police Department database at 6:47 p.m. on March 28, 2019—about four hours after police met Abrego Garcia for the first time—according to Abrego Garcia’s recent complaint.
The government has not introduced either the I-213 or GFIS form in its defense of Abrego Garcia’s recent legal proceedings. The descriptions of those documents provided here are based on characterizations of them provided by Kessler in her ruling and Abrego Garcia’s current attorney in his complaint.
Apparently relying on the assertions of the I-213 form, which, in turn, apparently relied on the assertions of the GFIS, Kessler wrote: “The Respondent was arrested in the company of other ranking gang members and was confirmed to be a ranking member of the MS-13 gang by a proven and reliable source.” There is no factual evidence to support that conclusion.
But Kessler—even while crediting the government’s claim of gang membership—acknowledged that the two documents were, in at least one respect, glaringly “at odds” with one another. The federal I-213 form claimed that Abrego Garcia had been detained “in connection with a murder investigation,” while the GFIS form said he and the others had been arrested because they were “loitering outside of a Home Depot,” as Kessler wrote.
Kessler found that both documents were admissible in immigration court, notwithstanding the objection of Abrego Garcia’s then-attorney, Chicas, who protested that he’d not been permitted to cross-examine the detective whose accusations seemed to underlie both.
Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?
The allegation seems to stem from double hearsay in a document authored by a later suspended police detective.www.lawfaremedia.org
I copied and pasted as much of the article as I think board rules allow for. There is more content worth reading.
Everyone can draw their own opinions. But at least they will be based on the facts. Not the spin the admin and RWM have put on the story.
As an aside, IMO, Judge Kessler she be disbarred for her grotesquely incompetent handling of Garcia's case.
Why should I be embarrassed?So how is it that several different right wing posters have said the same stupid shit?
Embarrassed about where it came from?
Yeah
That