I Disagree with Trump's Pardon of Todd Chrisley

[mikegriffith1]

I disagree with Trump's recent pardon of TV star Todd Chrisley. Chrisley and his wife Julie were convicted in 2022 of massive loan fraud, wire fraud, obstruction of justice, and tax evasion. They fraudulently obtained over $30 million in loans from community banks, spent lavishly for years, and then declared bankruptcy, leaving banks holding the bag for $20 million in unpaid loans. Todd got 12 years, and Julie got 7 years. The sentences were somewhat excessive, but pardoning Todd after just 3 years is going to the opposite extreme. I have no problem with the pardon for Julie, but I think Todd should have spent 2 more years in jail.

Television personalities sentenced to years in federal prison for fraud and tax evasion

Todd and Julie Chrisley have been sentenced to 12 and seven years, respectively, in federal prison after a jury convicted them of bank and tax fraud offenses following a nearly three-week jury trial.

www.justice.gov

 

[Foxfyre]

I disagree with Trump's recent pardon of TV star Todd Chrisley. Chrisley and his wife Julie were convicted in 2022 of massive loan fraud, wire fraud, obstruction of justice, and tax evasion. They fraudulently obtained over $30 million in loans from community banks, spent lavishly for years, and then declared bankruptcy, leaving banks holding the bag for $20 million in unpaid loans. Todd got 12 years, and Julie got 7 years. The sentences were somewhat excessive, but pardoning Todd after just 3 years is going to the opposite extreme. I have no problem with the pardon for Julie, but I think Todd should have spent 2 more years in jail.

Television personalities sentenced to years in federal prison for fraud and tax evasion

Todd and Julie Chrisley have been sentenced to 12 and seven years, respectively, in federal prison after a jury convicted them of bank and tax fraud offenses following a nearly three-week jury trial.

www.justice.gov

The daughter who has been working and petitioning for her parents maintains they were maliciously prosecuted.

Given that these people were Trump supporters, the red flag of possibility that it was another malicious lawfare case is not unreasonable.

Put me down for a firm "I don't know" whether they deserve to be in jail or whether they merited a presidential pardon. I cannot honestly defend or criticize that decision.

But I am not the least bit concerned that anyone is in at risk of any harm because they will be free.

I sure can't say that about a whole lot of people who have been turned loose on the American public during the Biden Administration.

Exclusive | Chase Chrisley speaks on parents Todd and Julie’s pardon from Trump

Chase Chrisley is addressing his parents Todd and Julie’s upcoming pardons.

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[mikegriffith1]

The daughter who has been working and petitioning for her parents maintains they were maliciously prosecuted.

Given that these people were Trump supporters, the red flag of possibility that it was another malicious lawfare case is not unreasonable.

Put me down for a firm "I don't know" whether they deserve to be in jail or whether they merited a presidential pardon. I cannot honestly defend or criticize that decision.

But I am not the least bit concerned that anyone is in at risk of any harm because they will be free.

I sure can't say that about a whole lot of people who have been turned loose on the American public during the Biden Administration.

Exclusive | Chase Chrisley speaks on parents Todd and Julie’s pardon from Trump

Chase Chrisley is addressing his parents Todd and Julie’s upcoming pardons.

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The evidence against the Chrisleys was overwhelming. I agree there were several cases of lawfare under Biden's DOJ, but this was not one of them. The case against the Chrisleys began to be built in 2019, under Trump's DOJ, and was continued by Biden's DOJ.

 

[Votto]

I disagree with Trump's recent pardon of TV star Todd Chrisley. Chrisley and his wife Julie were convicted in 2022 of massive loan fraud, wire fraud, obstruction of justice, and tax evasion. They fraudulently obtained over $30 million in loans from community banks, spent lavishly for years, and then declared bankruptcy, leaving banks holding the bag for $20 million in unpaid loans. Todd got 12 years, and Julie got 7 years. The sentences were somewhat excessive, but pardoning Todd after just 3 years is going to the opposite extreme. I have no problem with the pardon for Julie, but I think Todd should have spent 2 more years in jail.

Television personalities sentenced to years in federal prison for fraud and tax evasion

Todd and Julie Chrisley have been sentenced to 12 and seven years, respectively, in federal prison after a jury convicted them of bank and tax fraud offenses following a nearly three-week jury trial.

www.justice.gov

So, 5 years in jail for illegally obtaining $30 million?

I think most people would do that.

Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

 

[Foxfyre]

The evidence against the Chrisleys was overwhelming. I agree there were several cases of lawfare under Biden's DOJ, but this was not one of them. The case against the Chrisleys began to be built in 2019, under Trump's DOJ, and was continued by Biden's DOJ.

Again I'm in the "I don't know" category. I haven't seen or looked into what the evidence actually was.

I don't know whether the pardons were justified.

All I know is I have zero concerns that anybody is at risk because of those pardons.

 

[Blaster]

I disagree with Trump's recent pardon of TV star Todd Chrisley. Chrisley and his wife Julie were convicted in 2022 of massive loan fraud, wire fraud, obstruction of justice, and tax evasion. They fraudulently obtained over $30 million in loans from community banks, spent lavishly for years, and then declared bankruptcy, leaving banks holding the bag for $20 million in unpaid loans. Todd got 12 years, and Julie got 7 years. The sentences were somewhat excessive, but pardoning Todd after just 3 years is going to the opposite extreme. I have no problem with the pardon for Julie, but I think Todd should have spent 2 more years in jail.

Television personalities sentenced to years in federal prison for fraud and tax evasion

Todd and Julie Chrisley have been sentenced to 12 and seven years, respectively, in federal prison after a jury convicted them of bank and tax fraud offenses following a nearly three-week jury trial.

www.justice.gov

If Hunter Biden can get pardoned so can Todd.

 

[mikegriffith1]

So, 5 years in jail for illegally obtaining $30 million? I think most people would do that. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

Well, he would have been eligible for parole this year or next year anyway. Keep in mind, too, that the Chrisleys had all of their assets frozen, some of which were used to pay millions of dollars in restitution.

 

[mikegriffith1]

If Hunter Biden can get pardoned so can Todd.

Granted, Hunter's pardon was one of the most scandalous, undeserved pardons in American history. But, two wrongs don't make a right. Furthermore, Todd Chrisley would have been eligible for parole this year or next year anyway, so I don't know why Trump felt the need to pardon him when he was going to be out on parole no later than next year. It just does not look good. The Chrisleys were not the victims of unjust prosecution. They are crooks and frauds. They deserved to spend serious time in jail plus supervised release afterward.

Pardoning the Chrisleys certainly looks like politically based favoritism.

 

[mudwhistle]

The evidence against the Chrisleys was overwhelming. I agree there were several cases of lawfare under Biden's DOJ, but this was not one of them. The case against the Chrisleys began to be built in 2019, under Trump's DOJ, and was continued by Biden's DOJ.

The media may have reported that the evidence was overwhelming, but if the evidence was fabricated, then the case shouldn't have been prosecuted. The 4th Amendment is supposed to be a protection against abusive overzealous prosecutions. And another thing it's supposed to do is prevent judges from sentencing people to 4 years when paying a fine would have been justice.

 

[PeterPilot]

I disagree with Trump's recent pardon of TV star Todd Chrisley. Chrisley and his wife Julie were convicted in 2022 of massive loan fraud, wire fraud, obstruction of justice, and tax evasion. They fraudulently obtained over $30 million in loans from community banks, spent lavishly for years, and then declared bankruptcy, leaving banks holding the bag for $20 million in unpaid loans. Todd got 12 years, and Julie got 7 years. The sentences were somewhat excessive, but pardoning Todd after just 3 years is going to the opposite extreme. I have no problem with the pardon for Julie, but I think Todd should have spent 2 more years in jail.

Television personalities sentenced to years in federal prison for fraud and tax evasion

Todd and Julie Chrisley have been sentenced to 12 and seven years, respectively, in federal prison after a jury convicted them of bank and tax fraud offenses following a nearly three-week jury trial.

www.justice.gov

I don't know a thing about their case, but if what you've posted is true and accurate, it might be said that they learned about bank fraud and bankruptcies from reading Donald's books or studying his history of such things.

 

[Dekster]

I don't know a thing about their case, but if what you've posted is true and accurate, it might be said that they learned about bank fraud and bankruptcies from reading Donald's books or studying his history of such things.

The fraud was that they allegedly forged documents to make it appear as if they had more money than they did in order to refinance existing loans and get additional funds as they were drowning due to the great recession on their real estate holdings. They apparently were making an effort to repay them but finally went tits up on several of the projects and big loans.

Anyway, I my gut instinct is that their marriage and their reality careers will both burn up during re-entry. The daughter and Todd apparently are out there trying to make money moves while they can, but their new show is gonna be on Lifetime whose #1 program is Dr. Pimplepopper.

 

[MarathonMike]

Granted, Hunter's pardon was one of the most scandalous, undeserved pardons in American history. But, two wrongs don't make a right. Furthermore, Todd Chrisley would have been eligible for parole this year or next year anyway, so I don't know why Trump felt the need to pardon him when he was going to be out on parole no later than next year. It just does not look good. The Chrisleys were not the victims of unjust prosecution. They are crooks and frauds. They deserved to spend serious time in jail plus supervised release afterward.

Pardoning the Chrisleys certainly looks like politically based favoritism.

Another possibility is that our Democrat corrupted DOJ targeted them with sketchy/fake evidence just like Letitia James BS case against Trump. I saw the interview of Todd Crissley today and his statement was they were cornered into pleading guilty to not get the maximum penalty.

 

[g5000]

I disagree with Trump's recent pardon of TV star Todd Chrisley. Chrisley and his wife Julie were convicted in 2022 of massive loan fraud, wire fraud, obstruction of justice, and tax evasion. They fraudulently obtained over $30 million in loans from community banks, spent lavishly for years, and then declared bankruptcy, leaving banks holding the bag for $20 million in unpaid loans. Todd got 12 years, and Julie got 7 years. The sentences were somewhat excessive, but pardoning Todd after just 3 years is going to the opposite extreme. I have no problem with the pardon for Julie, but I think Todd should have spent 2 more years in jail.

Television personalities sentenced to years in federal prison for fraud and tax evasion

Todd and Julie Chrisley have been sentenced to 12 and seven years, respectively, in federal prison after a jury convicted them of bank and tax fraud offenses following a nearly three-week jury trial.

www.justice.gov

Trump lives inside television.

If you are white and were a celebrity on a reality TV show (for example Fox News), and you are caught ass-raping a Mexican immigrant, Donald Trump will pardon you, then invite you to the White House for dinner, and let you **** Melania in front of the fireplace on a panda bearskin rug.

 

[Cassandro]

I have no problem with the pardon for Julie, but I think Todd should have spent 2 more years in jail.

You seem to be slicing your objection pretty thin.