I am Outraged at Trump for having a Major Drug Cartel leader arrested!

[Slade3200]

This is also a person that truly believed that Trump advocated drinking and injecting bleach. LOL

Can you prove I believed that? Didn’t think so. You’re a liar

 

[struth]

Of course you don’t mind. Your principles move with the wind. You are a true cult member. As long as Trump doesn’t, it’s all good. That’s sad

Where did my principals move?

 

[Slade3200]

Nope. You cherry pick some shit he sometimes spews. But you have to be a retard to believe that he’d militarily invade Greenland.

And Trump’s actions in Vz have not the slightest persuasive value in supporting your flatulent claim.

I cherry pick shit he sometimes spews?! In other words I reference the things Trump actually says…. Yes I absolutely use trumps actual words to base my arguments off of.

The pretzels you twist yourself into to make excuses for the man are unbelievable. You have no spine do you?

 

[Slade3200]

Where did my principals move?

In the same direction as trumps farts

 

[krichton]

No. He wasn’t. You can claim he was “legitimate,” but it ignores reality. And if he wasn’t legitimate (and he wasn’t) then he wasn’t their President.

Putin is the president of Russia. So, it’s a stupid “analogy” by you. So, no wonder you prefer to evade the reality of the matter.

Wow. You’re the mistress of unsupportable, stupid but failed analogies.

Please link to the post where I ever made such a claim. TIA.

Nope. We can’t “forget” your false claim. Oil is but a very small part of why we’re there. Your thinking along such lines suffers from your complete lack of comprehension. We don’t need their oil. But nations like Russia do. So, it’s not really about “oil.”

Instead, it’s largely about geopolitics.

Sort of what he said. And?

We aren’t engaged in nation building.

You have many false premises in your failed analysis.

Putin is only president through rigged elections and by threat of force. It's funny how you're attempting to legitimize Putin but not Maduro, when they both won their presidency the same way, through fraud and corruption. This is a really strange hill to die on just because you want to justify your silly narrative about Maduro, in order to help your broader narrative of defending Trump. This is what is commonly called the right wing version of TDS.

You literally just said that we only need to be in Venezuela until they make the "transition" to their new president, never taking into account there's already a regime currently in place, nor does it take into account Trump's own words that they'll be running Venezuela. How do we "run Venezuela" if the US leaves? It would take probably at least a decade to rebuild their oil infrastructure, meanwhile they and the new government will be fighting an insurgency for that entire time and beyond. This is virtually the exact same occupation script as Iraq and Afghanistan.

If we don't need Venezuela's oil then why is Trump proposing a massive plan to occupy the country for the purposes of rebuilding their oil infrastructure for the next decade?

 

[krichton]

Because I trust in Trump, I really didn't even have an opinion on Hernandez. I figured there was a reason, but I don't really care enough about it to give it much thought.
Typically Trump's decisions like this are correct, but like many things our government does who knows or will ever know.

Never question the dear leader!

 

[Blisterfinger]

Never question the dear leader!

He hasn't let me down yet after 5 years. Looking forward to more improvements to the United States in the future.
On the other hand you would like to see us fail. It's called Trump derangement syndrome.

 

[krichton]

Yeah. In fact, you are.

Never a need to do so. Also, beside the point.

False. I never paraphrase any Democrat talking points.

He never said that, either. I assume you never bothered to look and see what he did actually say. You shitlibs are a lazy ignorant lot.

Irrelevant. It’s not what he did or said he had done.

According to whom?

Wrong again. As the embodiment of the Executive Branch, he has an ability to declassify whatever he sees fit to declassify.
But your speculation is baseless, anyway.

I did, I've always known he said those words. That's why it's so easy for me to pull up this video on youtube, where he literally says, you can declassify secret classified documents just by thinking about it. Continually saying I'm the confused one is pure projection on your part. Choosing to ignore certain things Trump says, and only remembering the ones that will fit a narrative is why you do poorly in these debates.



No, you're thinking about a dictator. We in the US have a president. A president does not have unilateral authority to declassify everything he or she wants without any kind of approval and just by thinking it. Imagine a president who could declassify our stealth technology, or the location of all our subs and missile sites, or all our operatives around the world and does it without bothering to tell anyone, because he just "thinks it," and it's done. Defending Trump and common sense really don't go hand in hand.

 

[krichton]

He hasn't let me down yet after 5 years. Looking forward to more improvements to the United States in the future.
On the other hand you would like to see us fail. It's called Trump derangement syndrome.

If more "improvements" means more wars, paying more because of tariffs, a potential recession, and big job losses then he's your man!

 

[krichton]

....which was how long in your mind?

Not in mind, in reality.

18 months.

 

[BackAgain]

I cherry pick shit he sometimes spews?! In other words I reference the things Trump actually says….

No “other words” required. You cherry pick.

Yes I absolutely use trumps actual words to base my arguments off of.

Sometimes.

The pretzels you twist yourself into to make excuses for the man are unbelievable. You have no spine do you?

No pretzel twisting either. That’s just your dishonest claim.

 

[CowboyTed]

Putin is only president through rigged elections and by threat of force. It's funny how you're attempting to legitimize Putin but not Maduro, when they both won their presidency the same way, through fraud and corruption. This is a really strange hill to die on just because you want to justify your silly narrative about Maduro, in order to help your broader narrative of defending Trump. This is what is commonly called the right wing version of TDS.

You literally just said that we only need to be in Venezuela until they make the "transition" to their new president, never taking into account there's already a regime currently in place, nor does it take into account Trump's own words that they'll be running Venezuela. How do we "run Venezuela" if the US leaves? It would take probably at least a decade to rebuild their oil infrastructure, meanwhile they and the new government will be fighting an insurgency for that entire time and beyond. This is virtually the exact same occupation script as Iraq and Afghanistan.

If we don't need Venezuela's oil then why is Trump proposing a massive plan to occupy the country for the purposes of rebuilding their oil infrastructure for the next decade?

Problem is that Trump didn't look at installing the opposition leader but basically took the next corrupt Dictator on the list to run the country...

Venezuela is not a major drug trafficking country like Mexico or Columbia...

This was a grab for oil... Small problem, US Oil Companies don't want to invest in Venezuela...

 

[Blisterfinger]

Can you prove I believed that? Didn’t think so. You’re a liar

All of you green hairs and FAGATs believed that! You were told to ! Are you a traitor to your own people?

 

[krichton]

But we didn't threaten or use force against any state. Meduro was not the President of Venezula, he was an occupying force, that was in fact supported, and guarded by Cuban guards. He was not elected, he used his narcoterrorist forces, and other state agents to oppress the state.....and he, and his gang, not only threatened, but used forced against the terroritorial intergrity of the United States and our political independence. The proof of that, is a Grand Jury in NYC, found enough evidence, to indict him and members of his gang, for crimes against the United States.

Also, kidnapping is an unlawful act, arresting someone, under a Court order, is not unlawful. So, you know you fail.

Maduro is the president of Venezuela, just like Putin is the president of Russia. There's literally no difference. Clinging to this narrative really isn't a valid argument, it's desperation. And it's beginning to sound more and more like a right wing talking point maga is being coached to say. Venezuela is a sovereign nation, that's all that matters, and Article 2 of the UN Charter has been violated by the invasion.

 

[Blisterfinger]

I did, I've always known he said those words. That's why it's so easy for me to pull up this video on youtube, where he literally says, you can declassify secret classified documents just by thinking about it. Continually saying I'm the confused one is pure projection on your part. Choosing to ignore certain things Trump says, and only remembering the ones that will fit a narrative is why you do poorly in these debates.



No, you're thinking about a dictator. We in the US have a president. A president does not have unilateral authority to declassify everything he or she wants without any kind of approval and just by thinking it. Imagine a president who could declassify our stealth technology, or the location of all our subs and missile sites, or all our operatives around the world and does it without bothering to tell anyone, because he just "thinks it," and it's done. Defending Trump and common sense really don't go hand in hand.

Actually he can

 

[Blisterfinger]

Maduro is the president of Venezuela, just like Putin is the president of Russia. There's literally no difference. Clinging to this narrative really isn't a valid argument, it's desperation. And it's beginning to sound more and more like a right wing talking point maga is being coached to say. Venezuela is a sovereign nation, that's all that matters, and Article 2 of the UN Charter has been violated by the invasion.

Venezuela's in our backyard, Russia is not. Sesame Street 101

 

[Blisterfinger]

If more "improvements" means more wars, paying more because of tariffs, a potential recession, and big job losses then he's your man!

All of which is not happening! You just wish it would . Thanks for proving my point. Viva Trump

 

[krichton]

Problem is that Trump didn't look at installing the opposition leader but basically took the next corrupt Dictator on the list to run the country...

Venezuela is not a major drug trafficking country like Mexico or Columbia...

This was a grab for oil... Small problem, US Oil Companies don't want to invest in Venezuela...

Who the heck knows what he's actually thinking. I doubt anyone in his cabinet even knows, but Maga on usmb all seem to be experts on his agenda, even when they are not even aware he's saying the dumb shit he's saying.

Correct, drugs from VZ barely even flow here, they flow into Europe.

Which the American people will subsidize, of course. Take a wild guess how much that will cost. I wonder how many oil companies will take up this offer from some crazy old man in the oval office who no one can even trust.

 

[krichton]

Venezuela's in our backyard, Russia is not. Sesame Street 101

So proximity gives the US the unilateral authority to invade another country. You sound like Putin.

 

[BackAgain]

Venezuela is not a major drug trafficking country like Mexico or Columbia...

^ what a ******* idiotic thing to say.

a quick AI search says:

Venezuela has minimal cocaine production but serves mainly as a transit country for Colombian cocaine, with estimates of 200–250 metric tons trafficked annually (10–13% of global production) or up to 639 metric tons in 2023, routed to the Caribbean, Europe, and Central America (with limited direct flows to the US).