I Am Athiest...

[TooTall]

That has absolutely zero to do with the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer. The wealthy, other than religious leaders, do not get rich off of donations.

True, but republican politicians become wealthy by pandering to evangelical fundamentalists who put them in office where they become the beneficiaries of the wealthy lobbyists.

And Democrats remain poor.

How many Dem politicians pander shamelessly to the evangelical fundamentalists in order to be elected?

Not very many since they are pandering to Gays, Atheists, and Wall Street fat cats for their votes and funding.

 

[emilynghiem]

.....................And I Despise Tax Cuts For The Upper 1%

When we had a middle class back in the 1950-1960 time frame a corporate executive earned about 50 times what a carpenter or plumber made. Now the elitist bastards make 400 times as much and know no shame. They set up a board of directors and tell them what they want. Then....they get it.

In the last thirty years the upper 10% of earners have increased their earnings by nearly 300% while the lower half of earners have remained flat when adjusted for inflation.

Something about that SUCKS!!!

Just curious here. What does being an atheist have to do with the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer? I don't follow the atheist part. Could you explain please? Thanks.

Simply that I don't believe I have to donate 10% of my income to a butthole who should look around and find an honest living.

That has absolutely zero to do with the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer. The wealthy, other than religious leaders, do not get rich off of donations.

The difference between the rich who get richer
and the poor who stay poor is PROPERTY OWNERSHIP.

No amount of depending on govt is going to empower anybody
as much as owning and managing your own
houses, businesses, schools or city districts.

The people SERIOUS about equality and economy would be teaching
land ownership and self government. Anybody else teaching to
keep depending on govt is taking advantage.

When all people have equal access, opportunity, credit and training to
own land and start managing their own schools and districts by democratically represented communities,
then we can at least stand on equal ground before we begin the discussion on equal protections of the law.

I don't see how we can even discuss
equality politically or economically
if people don't even own their own land or have equal say in govt and taxes.
That means "other people" are in charge of making and enforcing rules and that's not equal.

 

[Campbell]

.....................And I Despise Tax Cuts For The Upper 1%

When we had a middle class back in the 1950-1960 time frame a corporate executive earned about 50 times what a carpenter or plumber made. Now the elitist bastards make 400 times as much and know no shame. They set up a board of directors and tell them what they want. Then....they get it.

In the last thirty years the upper 10% of earners have increased their earnings by nearly 300% while the lower half of earners have remained flat when adjusted for inflation.

Something about that SUCKS!!!

Dear Campbell
I think this approach is set up backwards.
Instead of viewing it as the money made by people and businesses
"belonging to govt" and then refunding back credits to the earners,
why isn't it seen as people earning their own incomes and then either donating, investing or lending it into either charity or nonprofit business ventures that serve the community and public interests?

Otherwise it comes across as the govt being the slave master, owning and controlling
the labor and income earned by citizens, who have to pay up to 2/5 of these earnings to govt.
How is that not unlike the days of being 3/5 free and 2/5 slave and not owning our own labor?

Do you see how this comes across as an oppressive relationship?

What I found works better for morale and positive growth is rewarding people
for investing in cost effective development, where serving the needs and demands of others
creates jobs and productive enterprises, schools and businesses, charities and service organizations.

Why can't this be a process of REWARDING taxpayers for smart investments in building
schools, economy, medical facilities, etc. instead of punishing people by taking more and more money?

Yep....the wealthy let their offspring select one of the ivy league schools while the children of the used to be middle class join the military and travel to a miserable desert 10,000 miles from home to fight and die. What a load of shit!!!

Effective tomorrow any senator or representative who votes for "boots on the ground" should have to prove that one of their offspring or close relatives has some skin in the game.

 

[Campbell]

Wow!!! Are you serious? From a TV show? Deeply philosophical… wow...

Attacking the source because you can't refute the truth?

If you "study' Philosophy from sitcoms then have at it. It is your prerogative, do what fits your ideas, of course.

Everyone is born an atheist. It is only those who are indoctrinated into religion that have a problem with atheists. Religion is irrational because you have be believe things without any evidence. That isn't philosophy. That is factual.

I support your right to believe in irrational religions. Do you support the right of atheists to have freedom from religion?

God and Jesus....imaginary friend of adults.

 

[defcon4]

God and Jesus....imaginary friend of adults.

Does that bother you if others believe it? Does it negatively impact your life? Why are you angry?

 

[Campbell]

.....................And I Despise Tax Cuts For The Upper 1%

When we had a middle class back in the 1950-1960 time frame a corporate executive earned about 50 times what a carpenter or plumber made. Now the elitist bastards make 400 times as much and know no shame. They set up a board of directors and tell them what they want. Then....they get it.

In the last thirty years the upper 10% of earners have increased their earnings by nearly 300% while the lower half of earners have remained flat when adjusted for inflation.

Something about that SUCKS!!!

The upper 10% pay most of the taxes, what cut are you talking about? Corporations are much bigger and more diversified these days, and global. Apple products are sold all over the world for example. But what business is the CEO's income to you?

The sorry fact is that as opportunity decreases the pay reflects it and too many retards buy the leftist's rhetoric and vote for what hurts them the most.

As far as atheism, how do you know there is no god?

How do you know there is one? There were twelve stories being passed around in the middle east and N. Africa around 300BC to 200AD. All of them told of a "son of god" who would be crucified and raised from the dead. One of every ten adult men alive then was claiming to be the son of god and every fourth one was named Jesus!!

1. 
   
   
   • Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25th in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds.
   • He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
   • He had 12 companions or disciples.
   • Mithra's followers were promised immortality.
   • He performed miracles.
   • As the "great bull of the Sun," Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
   • He was buried in a tomb and after three days rose again.
   • His resurrection was celebrated every year.
   • He was called "the Good Shepherd" and identified with both the Lamb and the Lion.
   • He was considered the "Way, the Truth and the Light," and the "Logos," "Redeemer," "Savior" and "Messiah."
   • His sacred day was Sunday, the "Lord's Day," hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
   • Mithra had his principal festival of what was later to become Easter.
   • His religion had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper," at which Mithra said, "He who shall not eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved."
2. "His annual sacrifice is the passover of the Magi, a symbolical atonement or pledge of moral and physical regeneration."
3. Samuel Golding is quoted as saying that 1 Cor. 10:4 is "identical words to those found in the Mithraic scriptures, except that the name Mithra is used instead of Christ."
4. The Catholic Encyclopedia is quoted as saying that Mithraic services were conduced by "fathers" and that the "chief of the fathers, a sort of pope, who always lived at Rome, was called 'Pater Patratus.'"

Buddha



Both went to their temples at the age of twelve, where they are said to have astonished all with their wisdom. Both supposedly fasted in solitude for a long time: Buddha for forty–seven days and Jesus for forty. Both wandered to a fig tree at the conclusion of their fasts. Both were about the same age when they began their public ministry:

“When he [Buddha] went again to the garden he saw a monk who was calm, tranquil, self–possessed, serene, and dignified. The prince, determined to become such a monk, was led to make the great renunciation. At the time he was twenty–nine years of age… “Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age.” (Luke 3:23). Both were tempted by the “devil” at the beginning of their ministry: To Buddha, he said: “Go not forth to adopt a religious life but return to your kingdom, and in seven days you shall become emperor of the world, riding over the four continents.” To Jesus, he said: “All these [kingdoms of the world] I will give you, if you fall down and worship me” (Matthew 4:9). Buddha answered the “devil”: “Get you away from me.”

Jesus responded: “…begone, Satan!” (Matthew 4:10). Both strove to establish a kingdom of heaven on earth. According to the Somadeva (a Buddhist holy book), a Buddhist ascetic’s eye once offended him, so he plucked it out and cast it away. Jesus said: “If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, and throw it away;.” (Matthew 5:29).

 

[Hossfly]

.....................And I Despise Tax Cuts For The Upper 1%

When we had a middle class back in the 1950-1960 time frame a corporate executive earned about 50 times what a carpenter or plumber made. Now the elitist bastards make 400 times as much and know no shame. They set up a board of directors and tell them what they want. Then....they get it.

In the last thirty years the upper 10% of earners have increased their earnings by nearly 300% while the lower half of earners have remained flat when adjusted for inflation.

Something about that SUCKS!!!

The upper 10% pay most of the taxes, what cut are you talking about? Corporations are much bigger and more diversified these days, and global. Apple products are sold all over the world for example. But what business is the CEO's income to you?

The sorry fact is that as opportunity decreases the pay reflects it and too many retards buy the leftist's rhetoric and vote for what hurts them the most.

As far as atheism, how do you know there is no god?

How do you know there is one? There were twelve stories being passed around in the middle east and N. Africa around 300BC to 200AD. All of them told of a "son of god" who would be crucified and raised from the dead. One of every ten adult men alive then was claiming to be the son of god and every fourth one was named Jesus!!

1. 
   
   
   • Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25th in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds.
   • He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
   • He had 12 companions or disciples.
   • Mithra's followers were promised immortality.
   • He performed miracles.
   • As the "great bull of the Sun," Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
   • He was buried in a tomb and after three days rose again.
   • His resurrection was celebrated every year.
   • He was called "the Good Shepherd" and identified with both the Lamb and the Lion.
   • He was considered the "Way, the Truth and the Light," and the "Logos," "Redeemer," "Savior" and "Messiah."
   • His sacred day was Sunday, the "Lord's Day," hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
   • Mithra had his principal festival of what was later to become Easter.
   • His religion had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper," at which Mithra said, "He who shall not eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved."
2. "His annual sacrifice is the passover of the Magi, a symbolical atonement or pledge of moral and physical regeneration."
3. Samuel Golding is quoted as saying that 1 Cor. 10:4 is "identical words to those found in the Mithraic scriptures, except that the name Mithra is used instead of Christ."
4. The Catholic Encyclopedia is quoted as saying that Mithraic services were conduced by "fathers" and that the "chief of the fathers, a sort of pope, who always lived at Rome, was called 'Pater Patratus.'"

Buddha



Both went to their temples at the age of twelve, where they are said to have astonished all with their wisdom. Both supposedly fasted in solitude for a long time: Buddha for forty–seven days and Jesus for forty. Both wandered to a fig tree at the conclusion of their fasts. Both were about the same age when they began their public ministry:

“When he [Buddha] went again to the garden he saw a monk who was calm, tranquil, self–possessed, serene, and dignified. The prince, determined to become such a monk, was led to make the great renunciation. At the time he was twenty–nine years of age… “Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age.” (Luke 3:23). Both were tempted by the “devil” at the beginning of their ministry: To Buddha, he said: “Go not forth to adopt a religious life but return to your kingdom, and in seven days you shall become emperor of the world, riding over the four continents.” To Jesus, he said: “All these [kingdoms of the world] I will give you, if you fall down and worship me” (Matthew 4:9). Buddha answered the “devil”: “Get you away from me.”

Jesus responded: “…begone, Satan!” (Matthew 4:10). Both strove to establish a kingdom of heaven on earth. According to the Somadeva (a Buddhist holy book), a Buddhist ascetic’s eye once offended him, so he plucked it out and cast it away. Jesus said: “If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, and throw it away;.” (Matthew 5:29).

Mithra. Isn't that Bulgarian for "Obama?"

 

[emilynghiem]

Wow!!! Are you serious? From a TV show? Deeply philosophical… wow...

Attacking the source because you can't refute the truth?

If you "study' Philosophy from sitcoms then have at it. It is your prerogative, do what fits your ideas, of course.

Everyone is born an atheist. It is only those who are indoctrinated into religion that have a problem with atheists. Religion is irrational because you have be believe things without any evidence. That isn't philosophy. That is factual.

I support your right to believe in irrational religions. Do you support the right of atheists to have freedom from religion?

God and Jesus....imaginary friend of adults.

Dear Campbell regardless of the religious symbology and idolatry
Do YOU believe there is a universal collective body of TRUTH
do YOU believe there is a universal level of JUSTICE governing humanity
and by which we should rationally examine and judge right from wrong?

You just stated it was unfair or UNJUST for the wealthy to enjoy political privileges
while sending the poor off to die for their wars while they make millions.

Where do you get your sense of JUSTICE from.
Do you believe JUSTICE is created by man, or is self-existent and we seek to realize this JUSTICE.

Where do you feel JUSTICE comes from?
Do humans create justice ourselves, or do we receive it from a higher source when we AGREE on what is good, right, accurate, fair and just for equal law and order in society.

Is it just arbitrary or is there a certain standard that we seek that is universal
to all humanity, and NONE of us made up that standard, but we have a natural sense of
it that is built into our consciences and developed by experience over many generations.

Do you believe that Justice is on a collective level beyond human free will,
that we do not make up the laws of justice, but seek to communicate, transcribe these
standards into written laws and agree how to enforce them so we realize equal justice.

Does this come from humanity, or is it something born in our nature we didn't create ourselves but just come to terms with as part of being human?

 

[April]

.....................And I Despise Tax Cuts For The Upper 1%

When we had a middle class back in the 1950-1960 time frame a corporate executive earned about 50 times what a carpenter or plumber made. Now the elitist bastards make 400 times as much and know no shame. They set up a board of directors and tell them what they want. Then....they get it.

In the last thirty years the upper 10% of earners have increased their earnings by nearly 300% while the lower half of earners have remained flat when adjusted for inflation.

Something about that SUCKS!!!

 

[defcon4]

.....................And I Despise Tax Cuts For The Upper 1%

When we had a middle class back in the 1950-1960 time frame a corporate executive earned about 50 times what a carpenter or plumber made. Now the elitist bastards make 400 times as much and know no shame. They set up a board of directors and tell them what they want. Then....they get it.

In the last thirty years the upper 10% of earners have increased their earnings by nearly 300% while the lower half of earners have remained flat when adjusted for inflation.

Something about that SUCKS!!!

Uh.. I like that broad..sword

 

[chao$]

Uh.. I like that broad..sword

Me too. How do we get AngelsNDemons to swing that thing in the FZ?

 

[defcon4]

Uh.. I like that broad..sword

Me too. How do we get AngelsNDemons to swing that thing in the FZ?

Uh… stop it… I am already fascinated by those wings...

 

[Derideo_Te]

That has absolutely zero to do with the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer. The wealthy, other than religious leaders, do not get rich off of donations.

True, but republican politicians become wealthy by pandering to evangelical fundamentalists who put them in office where they become the beneficiaries of the wealthy lobbyists.

And Democrats remain poor.

How many Dem politicians pander shamelessly to the evangelical fundamentalists in order to be elected?

Not very many since they are pandering to Gays, Atheists, and Wall Street fat cats for their votes and funding.

All politicians pander to the Wall Street Casino bosses.

 

[Carla_Danger]

.....................And I Despise Tax Cuts For The Upper 1%

When we had a middle class back in the 1950-1960 time frame a corporate executive earned about 50 times what a carpenter or plumber made. Now the elitist bastards make 400 times as much and know no shame. They set up a board of directors and tell them what they want. Then....they get it.

In the last thirty years the upper 10% of earners have increased their earnings by nearly 300% while the lower half of earners have remained flat when adjusted for inflation.

Something about that SUCKS!!!

Are you Athiest or A Theist?

Regarding the middle class issue, there has never been a human society that has survived very long after most of the wealth has been concentrated in the hands of a few. There is always revolution. The disparity in the U.S. today only has one conclusion. Once the critical mass of people that have given up on the society because it only enriches the few at the expense of the many, you have revolution. This nation is no different than all others before it, that moment will come.

The wealthy here caused the 2008 Great Recession with the help of Bush and the Republicans. How many of them went to jail? And why exactly did Martha Stewart go to jail but all those criminals did not?

China's stock market crashed a couple months ago and the CEO's of the largest companies were forbidden to sell any of the stock of their company for six months.

Going all the way back to the founders there have been warnings of corporations becoming more powerful than the government and the dire consequences as a result. If the American people do not wake up then yes the 2nd amendment will have its way.

Martha belonged to the wrong party.

 

[Carla_Danger]

The upper 10% pay most of the taxes, what cut are you talking about?

That's because they have more money than the bottom half of the country.

 

[Ernie S.]

.....................And I Despise Tax Cuts For The Upper 1%

When we had a middle class back in the 1950-1960 time frame a corporate executive earned about 50 times what a carpenter or plumber made. Now the elitist bastards make 400 times as much and know no shame. They set up a board of directors and tell them what they want. Then....they get it.

In the last thirty years the upper 10% of earners have increased their earnings by nearly 300% while the lower half of earners have remained flat when adjusted for inflation.

Something about that SUCKS!!!

Dear Campbell
I think this approach is set up backwards.
Instead of viewing it as the money made by people and businesses
"belonging to govt" and then refunding back credits to the earners,
why isn't it seen as people earning their own incomes and then either donating, investing or lending it into either charity or nonprofit business ventures that serve the community and public interests?

Otherwise it comes across as the govt being the slave master, owning and controlling
the labor and income earned by citizens, who have to pay up to 2/5 of these earnings to govt.
How is that not unlike the days of being 3/5 free and 2/5 slave and not owning our own labor?

Do you see how this comes across as an oppressive relationship?

What I found works better for morale and positive growth is rewarding people
for investing in cost effective development, where serving the needs and demands of others
creates jobs and productive enterprises, schools and businesses, charities and service organizations.

Why can't this be a process of REWARDING taxpayers for smart investments in building
schools, economy, medical facilities, etc. instead of punishing people by taking more and more money?

Yep....the wealthy let their offspring select one of the ivy league schools while the children of the used to be middle class join the military and travel to a miserable desert 10,000 miles from home to fight and die. What a load of shit!!!

Effective tomorrow any senator or representative who votes for "boots on the ground" should have to prove that one of their offspring or close relatives has some skin in the game.

Should your TV be just as big as mine? Should You have a Ferrari because I can afford one and you can't?
WTF is wrong with earning your own way? You get what you pay for, young fella.

 

[Ernie S.]

.....................And I Despise Tax Cuts For The Upper 1%

When we had a middle class back in the 1950-1960 time frame a corporate executive earned about 50 times what a carpenter or plumber made. Now the elitist bastards make 400 times as much and know no shame. They set up a board of directors and tell them what they want. Then....they get it.

In the last thirty years the upper 10% of earners have increased their earnings by nearly 300% while the lower half of earners have remained flat when adjusted for inflation.

Something about that SUCKS!!!

The upper 10% pay most of the taxes, what cut are you talking about? Corporations are much bigger and more diversified these days, and global. Apple products are sold all over the world for example. But what business is the CEO's income to you?

The sorry fact is that as opportunity decreases the pay reflects it and too many retards buy the leftist's rhetoric and vote for what hurts them the most.

As far as atheism, how do you know there is no god?

How do you know there is one? There were twelve stories being passed around in the middle east and N. Africa around 300BC to 200AD. All of them told of a "son of god" who would be crucified and raised from the dead. One of every ten adult men alive then was claiming to be the son of god and every fourth one was named Jesus!!

1. 
   
   
   • Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25th in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds.
   • He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
   • He had 12 companions or disciples.
   • Mithra's followers were promised immortality.
   • He performed miracles.
   • As the "great bull of the Sun," Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
   • He was buried in a tomb and after three days rose again.
   • His resurrection was celebrated every year.
   • He was called "the Good Shepherd" and identified with both the Lamb and the Lion.
   • He was considered the "Way, the Truth and the Light," and the "Logos," "Redeemer," "Savior" and "Messiah."
   • His sacred day was Sunday, the "Lord's Day," hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
   • Mithra had his principal festival of what was later to become Easter.
   • His religion had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper," at which Mithra said, "He who shall not eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved."
2. "His annual sacrifice is the passover of the Magi, a symbolical atonement or pledge of moral and physical regeneration."
3. Samuel Golding is quoted as saying that 1 Cor. 10:4 is "identical words to those found in the Mithraic scriptures, except that the name Mithra is used instead of Christ."
4. The Catholic Encyclopedia is quoted as saying that Mithraic services were conduced by "fathers" and that the "chief of the fathers, a sort of pope, who always lived at Rome, was called 'Pater Patratus.'"

Buddha



Both went to their temples at the age of twelve, where they are said to have astonished all with their wisdom. Both supposedly fasted in solitude for a long time: Buddha for forty–seven days and Jesus for forty. Both wandered to a fig tree at the conclusion of their fasts. Both were about the same age when they began their public ministry:

“When he [Buddha] went again to the garden he saw a monk who was calm, tranquil, self–possessed, serene, and dignified. The prince, determined to become such a monk, was led to make the great renunciation. At the time he was twenty–nine years of age… “Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age.” (Luke 3:23). Both were tempted by the “devil” at the beginning of their ministry: To Buddha, he said: “Go not forth to adopt a religious life but return to your kingdom, and in seven days you shall become emperor of the world, riding over the four continents.” To Jesus, he said: “All these [kingdoms of the world] I will give you, if you fall down and worship me” (Matthew 4:9). Buddha answered the “devil”: “Get you away from me.”

Jesus responded: “…begone, Satan!” (Matthew 4:10). Both strove to establish a kingdom of heaven on earth. According to the Somadeva (a Buddhist holy book), a Buddhist ascetic’s eye once offended him, so he plucked it out and cast it away. Jesus said: “If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, and throw it away;.” (Matthew 5:29).

Mithra. Isn't that Bulgarian for "Obama?"

No. It's a misspelling of Mothra.

 

[defcon4]

.....................And I Despise Tax Cuts For The Upper 1%

When we had a middle class back in the 1950-1960 time frame a corporate executive earned about 50 times what a carpenter or plumber made. Now the elitist bastards make 400 times as much and know no shame. They set up a board of directors and tell them what they want. Then....they get it.

In the last thirty years the upper 10% of earners have increased their earnings by nearly 300% while the lower half of earners have remained flat when adjusted for inflation.

Something about that SUCKS!!!

Dear Campbell
I think this approach is set up backwards.
Instead of viewing it as the money made by people and businesses
"belonging to govt" and then refunding back credits to the earners,
why isn't it seen as people earning their own incomes and then either donating, investing or lending it into either charity or nonprofit business ventures that serve the community and public interests?

Otherwise it comes across as the govt being the slave master, owning and controlling
the labor and income earned by citizens, who have to pay up to 2/5 of these earnings to govt.
How is that not unlike the days of being 3/5 free and 2/5 slave and not owning our own labor?

Do you see how this comes across as an oppressive relationship?

What I found works better for morale and positive growth is rewarding people
for investing in cost effective development, where serving the needs and demands of others
creates jobs and productive enterprises, schools and businesses, charities and service organizations.

Why can't this be a process of REWARDING taxpayers for smart investments in building
schools, economy, medical facilities, etc. instead of punishing people by taking more and more money?

Yep....the wealthy let their offspring select one of the ivy league schools while the children of the used to be middle class join the military and travel to a miserable desert 10,000 miles from home to fight and die. What a load of shit!!!

Effective tomorrow any senator or representative who votes for "boots on the ground" should have to prove that one of their offspring or close relatives has some skin in the game.

Should your TV be just as big as mine? Should You have a Ferrari because I can afford one and you can't?
WTF is wrong with earning your own way? You get what you pay for, young fella.

Ernie, he is fucking envious. An envy driven asshole.

 

[Ernie S.]

Didn't we have another asshole named Campbell for a while? Is this one and the same, just un-permabanned?

 

[Ernie S.]

.....................And I Despise Tax Cuts For The Upper 1%

When we had a middle class back in the 1950-1960 time frame a corporate executive earned about 50 times what a carpenter or plumber made. Now the elitist bastards make 400 times as much and know no shame. They set up a board of directors and tell them what they want. Then....they get it.

In the last thirty years the upper 10% of earners have increased their earnings by nearly 300% while the lower half of earners have remained flat when adjusted for inflation.

Something about that SUCKS!!!

Dear Campbell
I think this approach is set up backwards.
Instead of viewing it as the money made by people and businesses
"belonging to govt" and then refunding back credits to the earners,
why isn't it seen as people earning their own incomes and then either donating, investing or lending it into either charity or nonprofit business ventures that serve the community and public interests?

Otherwise it comes across as the govt being the slave master, owning and controlling
the labor and income earned by citizens, who have to pay up to 2/5 of these earnings to govt.
How is that not unlike the days of being 3/5 free and 2/5 slave and not owning our own labor?

Do you see how this comes across as an oppressive relationship?

What I found works better for morale and positive growth is rewarding people
for investing in cost effective development, where serving the needs and demands of others
creates jobs and productive enterprises, schools and businesses, charities and service organizations.

Why can't this be a process of REWARDING taxpayers for smart investments in building
schools, economy, medical facilities, etc. instead of punishing people by taking more and more money?

Yep....the wealthy let their offspring select one of the ivy league schools while the children of the used to be middle class join the military and travel to a miserable desert 10,000 miles from home to fight and die. What a load of shit!!!

Effective tomorrow any senator or representative who votes for "boots on the ground" should have to prove that one of their offspring or close relatives has some skin in the game.

Should your TV be just as big as mine? Should You have a Ferrari because I can afford one and you can't?
WTF is wrong with earning your own way? You get what you pay for, young fella.

Ernie, he is fucking envious. An envy driven asshole.

An 80 year old lying child throwing a tantrum.

Harrumph.... Became an atheist when a teenager but was in the Church for 40 years.

WHICH IS IT, ASSHAT?