Hunter Biden

[Slade3200]

Schweizer: Hunter Biden Partnered With Chinese Nuclear Tech Espionage Plotter

I also find it rather comical that as you all take the path down the China line you show these complex deals with power companies that Hunter was part of negotiating, investing in, and legally representing etc. yet there’s still the talking point about him getting paid millions of dollars by Ukraine for a do nothing job he had zero experience in. Can’t have it both ways. He’s either experienced and involved with the energy business or he’s not.

Board membership is mostly do nothing. But the entry requirements are high - A shitload of business experience, experience in the applicable industry, ties to the companies and brass that run companies within the industry. Your knowledge is what makes it worth paying $50,000 per month. That is not only a necessary component, it truly is the only component necessary. Hunter didn't meet any of those even remotely. So what value did he bring? Hmmmmmm.....

Oh yeah, his daddy was the VP of a large and powerful country.

yes I’m well aware of those ignorant claims. So these other smear stories coming out now about his dirty relationships with China energy execs.... where he is dealing with China and other world energy companies, negotiating deals, investing assets, representing clients.... all this is bullshit because he has no experience or expertise? is that your position?

The biggest problem there is that the Chinese company was willing to give Hunter 1.5BUSD (That's B not an M) to fund his newly minted investment fund. I don't think I've ever heard of anything remotely happening in the funding of a new investment fund with that much fucking money to someone who has never even run a fund that had more than $1,000,000.00. I also have a problem with him flying over there on Air Force 2 to conduct private business dealings. I also have a problem with him setting a meeting up with the execs of the Chinese business with his VP father. This is not a new story. You haven't been keeping up or you are ignoring important news because you watch CNN or some other liberal news source or you read the Huffintong Post or some other liberal media print outfit which probably didn't report anything about this until it started becoming an issue for Biden.

I’m not talking about the investment fund deal with China I’m talking about the latest conspiracy being tossed out there about Hunter and Ho’s relationship and China Nuclear Power Company. Prog posted a link a few pages back.

 

[Slade3200]

Oh good... noted and mocked. That gets me good! No evidence has been shown implicating Joe Biden in anything illegal. This is why he’s out campaigning and not under indictment. You’re completely full of shit

that is why I said an investigation can determine if its illegal or not,,,

patience my friend,,,

That’s a pussy answer. If there was evidence out there then there would be an indictment. There is no investigation, there is no indictment, there is no evidence. Just trolls like you spreading gossip. You’re not being sly

Ummmm Indictments come after an investigation. Not during. So......

And investigations are usually NEVER shared until they are complete.

You have no evidence and neither do I, but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

Your comment isn't logical. At all.

Oh yeah your right, my bad. Kind of like Hillary’s server investigation that we heard nothing about until they announced the findings. Great point!

I used the term "usually". Did you catch that or are you being obtuse or are you being willfully ignorant or do you have a reading comprehension problem.

I’m showing how ludicrous the accusation is that Joe is being secretly investigated. If he was then Trump would have referred to it in his defense against impeachment, if he was then Barr would have very different responses to the questions about it. If he was then there’s no doubt it would have leaked to help trump. There are several obvious points that show how dumb that accusation is. Seed of doubt is what your spreading. You don’t have evidence or facts to support these thing you say

 

[Ken Mac]

Schweizer: Hunter Biden Partnered With Chinese Nuclear Tech Espionage Plotter

I also find it rather comical that as you all take the path down the China line you show these complex deals with power companies that Hunter was part of negotiating, investing in, and legally representing etc. yet there’s still the talking point about him getting paid millions of dollars by Ukraine for a do nothing job he had zero experience in. Can’t have it both ways. He’s either experienced and involved with the energy business or he’s not.

Board membership is mostly do nothing. But the entry requirements are high - A shitload of business experience, experience in the applicable industry, ties to the companies and brass that run companies within the industry. Your knowledge is what makes it worth paying $50,000 per month. That is not only a necessary component, it truly is the only component necessary. Hunter didn't meet any of those even remotely. So what value did he bring? Hmmmmmm.....

Oh yeah, his daddy was the VP of a large and powerful country.

yes I’m well aware of those ignorant claims. So these other smear stories coming out now about his dirty relationships with China energy execs.... where he is dealing with China and other world energy companies, negotiating deals, investing assets, representing clients.... all this is bullshit because he has no experience or expertise? is that your position?

The biggest problem there is that the Chinese company was willing to give Hunter 1.5BUSD (That's B not an M) to fund his newly minted investment fund. I don't think I've ever heard of anything remotely happening in the funding of a new investment fund with that much fucking money to someone who has never even run a fund that had more than $1,000,000.00. I also have a problem with him flying over there on Air Force 2 to conduct private business dealings. I also have a problem with him setting a meeting up with the execs of the Chinese business with his VP father. This is not a new story. You haven't been keeping up or you are ignoring important news because you watch CNN or some other liberal news source or you read the Huffintong Post or some other liberal media print outfit which probably didn't report anything about this until it started becoming an issue for Biden.

I’m not talking about the investment fund deal with China I’m talking about the latest conspiracy being tossed out there about Hunter and Ho’s relationship and China Nuclear Power Company. Prog posted a link a few pages back.

Gotcha. Missed that - my apologies.

My corrected response is now:

Anything Hunter Biden is doing in the Energy business is shady because he has no experience. You're talking about CHINA. I'm sure there is some corrupt shit there too. Now saying that, it seems Hunter is starting to build some experience in the energy business - good on him. But, being a betting man, I would estimate that his experience is in how to launder money and extort money in exchange for access to Political figures and US government decision makers. Just a guess. No evidence yet. It is just a feeling at the moment. Quite strong though. Almost like a tingle up my leg.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to go read up on that shit. More Popcorn material. BBL after I make some more.

 

[Slade3200]

I also find it rather comical that as you all take the path down the China line you show these complex deals with power companies that Hunter was part of negotiating, investing in, and legally representing etc. yet there’s still the talking point about him getting paid millions of dollars by Ukraine for a do nothing job he had zero experience in. Can’t have it both ways. He’s either experienced and involved with the energy business or he’s not.

Board membership is mostly do nothing. But the entry requirements are high - A shitload of business experience, experience in the applicable industry, ties to the companies and brass that run companies within the industry. Your knowledge is what makes it worth paying $50,000 per month. That is not only a necessary component, it truly is the only component necessary. Hunter didn't meet any of those even remotely. So what value did he bring? Hmmmmmm.....

Oh yeah, his daddy was the VP of a large and powerful country.

yes I’m well aware of those ignorant claims. So these other smear stories coming out now about his dirty relationships with China energy execs.... where he is dealing with China and other world energy companies, negotiating deals, investing assets, representing clients.... all this is bullshit because he has no experience or expertise? is that your position?

The biggest problem there is that the Chinese company was willing to give Hunter 1.5BUSD (That's B not an M) to fund his newly minted investment fund. I don't think I've ever heard of anything remotely happening in the funding of a new investment fund with that much fucking money to someone who has never even run a fund that had more than $1,000,000.00. I also have a problem with him flying over there on Air Force 2 to conduct private business dealings. I also have a problem with him setting a meeting up with the execs of the Chinese business with his VP father. This is not a new story. You haven't been keeping up or you are ignoring important news because you watch CNN or some other liberal news source or you read the Huffintong Post or some other liberal media print outfit which probably didn't report anything about this until it started becoming an issue for Biden.

I’m not talking about the investment fund deal with China I’m talking about the latest conspiracy being tossed out there about Hunter and Ho’s relationship and China Nuclear Power Company. Prog posted a link a few pages back.

Gotcha. Missed that - my apologies.

My corrected response is now:

Anything Hunter Biden is doing in the Energy business is shady because he has no experience. You're talking about CHINA. I'm sure there is some corrupt shit there too. Now saying that, it seems Hunter is starting to build some experience in the energy business - good on him. But, being a betting man, I would estimate that his experience is in how to launder money and extort money in exchange for access to Political figures and US government decision makers. Just a guess. No evidence yet. It is just a feeling at the moment. Quite strong though. Almost like a tingle up my leg.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to go read up on that shit. More Popcorn material. BBL after I make some more.

Here are some links... these are the China dealings they are trying to tie the Biden’s too but I have yet to see how they link up to crimes.

ANALYSIS: Hunter Biden tied to China firm with questionable dealings

U.S. Nuclear Engineer, China General Nuclear Power Company and Energy Technology International Indicted in Nuclear Power Conspiracy against the United States

 

[Ken Mac]

that is why I said an investigation can determine if its illegal or not,,,

patience my friend,,,

That’s a pussy answer. If there was evidence out there then there would be an indictment. There is no investigation, there is no indictment, there is no evidence. Just trolls like you spreading gossip. You’re not being sly

Ummmm Indictments come after an investigation. Not during. So......

And investigations are usually NEVER shared until they are complete.

You have no evidence and neither do I, but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

Your comment isn't logical. At all.

Oh yeah your right, my bad. Kind of like Hillary’s server investigation that we heard nothing about until they announced the findings. Great point!

I used the term "usually". Did you catch that or are you being obtuse or are you being willfully ignorant or do you have a reading comprehension problem.

I’m showing how ludicrous the accusation is that Joe is being secretly investigated. If he was then Trump would have referred to it in his defense against impeachment, if he was then Barr would have very different responses to the questions about it. If he was then there’s no doubt it would have leaked to help trump. There are several obvious points that show how dumb that accusation is. Seed of doubt is what your spreading. You don’t have evidence or facts to support these thing you say

I know. I realize that you don't find it at all shady that Hunter Biden had a directorship at a Ukraine company, in a business in which he had no experience and his father just coincidentally happened to be the VP of the US, which was requesting large sums of aide, and his dad was the lead on Foreign Affairs for that same country. Hmmm.

Is this your stance?

 

[Slade3200]

I also find it rather comical that as you all take the path down the China line you show these complex deals with power companies that Hunter was part of negotiating, investing in, and legally representing etc. yet there’s still the talking point about him getting paid millions of dollars by Ukraine for a do nothing job he had zero experience in. Can’t have it both ways. He’s either experienced and involved with the energy business or he’s not.

Board membership is mostly do nothing. But the entry requirements are high - A shitload of business experience, experience in the applicable industry, ties to the companies and brass that run companies within the industry. Your knowledge is what makes it worth paying $50,000 per month. That is not only a necessary component, it truly is the only component necessary. Hunter didn't meet any of those even remotely. So what value did he bring? Hmmmmmm.....

Oh yeah, his daddy was the VP of a large and powerful country.

yes I’m well aware of those ignorant claims. So these other smear stories coming out now about his dirty relationships with China energy execs.... where he is dealing with China and other world energy companies, negotiating deals, investing assets, representing clients.... all this is bullshit because he has no experience or expertise? is that your position?

The biggest problem there is that the Chinese company was willing to give Hunter 1.5BUSD (That's B not an M) to fund his newly minted investment fund. I don't think I've ever heard of anything remotely happening in the funding of a new investment fund with that much fucking money to someone who has never even run a fund that had more than $1,000,000.00. I also have a problem with him flying over there on Air Force 2 to conduct private business dealings. I also have a problem with him setting a meeting up with the execs of the Chinese business with his VP father. This is not a new story. You haven't been keeping up or you are ignoring important news because you watch CNN or some other liberal news source or you read the Huffintong Post or some other liberal media print outfit which probably didn't report anything about this until it started becoming an issue for Biden.

I’m not talking about the investment fund deal with China I’m talking about the latest conspiracy being tossed out there about Hunter and Ho’s relationship and China Nuclear Power Company. Prog posted a link a few pages back.

Gotcha. Missed that - my apologies.

My corrected response is now:

Anything Hunter Biden is doing in the Energy business is shady because he has no experience. You're talking about CHINA. I'm sure there is some corrupt shit there too. Now saying that, it seems Hunter is starting to build some experience in the energy business - good on him. But, being a betting man, I would estimate that his experience is in how to launder money and extort money in exchange for access to Political figures and US government decision makers. Just a guess. No evidence yet. It is just a feeling at the moment. Quite strong though. Almost like a tingle up my leg.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to go read up on that shit. More Popcorn material. BBL after I make some more.

Oh I have a feeling you’re gonna have fun with those links and the rabbit hole they will take you down

 

[Slade3200]

That’s a pussy answer. If there was evidence out there then there would be an indictment. There is no investigation, there is no indictment, there is no evidence. Just trolls like you spreading gossip. You’re not being sly

Ummmm Indictments come after an investigation. Not during. So......

And investigations are usually NEVER shared until they are complete.

You have no evidence and neither do I, but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

Your comment isn't logical. At all.

Oh yeah your right, my bad. Kind of like Hillary’s server investigation that we heard nothing about until they announced the findings. Great point!

I used the term "usually". Did you catch that or are you being obtuse or are you being willfully ignorant or do you have a reading comprehension problem.

I’m showing how ludicrous the accusation is that Joe is being secretly investigated. If he was then Trump would have referred to it in his defense against impeachment, if he was then Barr would have very different responses to the questions about it. If he was then there’s no doubt it would have leaked to help trump. There are several obvious points that show how dumb that accusation is. Seed of doubt is what your spreading. You don’t have evidence or facts to support these thing you say

I know. I realize that you don't find it at all shady that Hunter Biden had a directorship at a Ukraine company, in a business in which he had no experience and his father just coincidentally happened to be the VP of the US, which was requesting large sums of aide, and his dad was the lead on Foreign Affairs for that same country. Hmmm.

Is this your stance?

The aid and position about the prosecutor were widely known and shared bipartisan positions and part of our foreign policy agenda not a personal agenda of the VP. So that point about his QPQ doesn’t hold water. I don’t think you know anything about Hunters experience or position/duties with Burisma so you are taking liberty to accuse him and his father of corruption. I would scrutinize the job as a conflict of interest, that’s a fair point, 5 years ago. The reason why it is being so focused on right now is for the sole purpose of demeaning Joes political campaign which is why this game is transparent and hard to take seriously. I think you know that as well. You seem like a bright guy. Can you be honest about the politicalization of this whole thing?

 

[colfax_m]

Oh good... noted and mocked. That gets me good! No evidence has been shown implicating Joe Biden in anything illegal. This is why he’s out campaigning and not under indictment. You’re completely full of shit

that is why I said an investigation can determine if its illegal or not,,,

patience my friend,,,

That’s a pussy answer. If there was evidence out there then there would be an indictment. There is no investigation, there is no indictment, there is no evidence. Just trolls like you spreading gossip. You’re not being sly

Ummmm Indictments come after an investigation. Not during. So......

And investigations are usually NEVER shared until they are complete.

You have no evidence and neither do I, but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

Your comment isn't logical. At all.

Investigations into high level people often don’t go unnoticed. You can’t keep everything about an investigation secret.

But yeah, investigations aren’t publicly announced. Which is why it was so corrupt for a Trump to try and force Zelensky to announce one.

That doesn't make him corrupt. What kind of logic is that? He wanted another country to announce one. Not the US. THE US doesn't go around announcing investigations - who cares if other countries do. That's up to them not us or apparently even Trump. And how is that corrupt? He wants them to go after corruption. That's ok in my book. I don't care who you fucking are - even if you're a current candidate for president - if you are doing shady shit it needs to be looked into. Actually - ESPECIALLY if you are running for president. Isn't that what the FBI was doing to Trumps Campaign? Of course they had to doctor evidence and omit key facts and make other errors to the tune of 17 on a FISA warrant extension request in order to keep the ball rolling (NTTIAWWT?). That in itself is some very, very shady shit.

The hypocrisy is palpable.

Why doesn’t the US announce investigations?

 

[The Original Tree]

Heard Obama's Lawyers got served papers.

 

[progressive hunter]

AG Barr confirms they are reviewing Ukraine information on Hunter Biden from Giuliani

Reviewing information that Rudy sends them is not an investigation based on credible evidence. It means they are vetting intel that they specifically state is suspect to be Russian disinformation. If I called the FBI and told them you were a pedophile does that mean there’s evidence that you’re a pedophile and you’re being investigated for pedophilia?

OK,,,THE doj ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT DO INVESTIGATIONS,,,

You’re right. Jerry my local PI does investigations too. What’s your point?

WHATS YOUR FRIENDS GOVERNMENT TITLE OR POSITION???

 

[progressive hunter]

that is why I said an investigation can determine if its illegal or not,,,

patience my friend,,,

That’s a pussy answer. If there was evidence out there then there would be an indictment. There is no investigation, there is no indictment, there is no evidence. Just trolls like you spreading gossip. You’re not being sly

Ummmm Indictments come after an investigation. Not during. So......

And investigations are usually NEVER shared until they are complete.

You have no evidence and neither do I, but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

Your comment isn't logical. At all.

Oh yeah your right, my bad. Kind of like Hillary’s server investigation that we heard nothing about until they announced the findings. Great point!

I used the term "usually". Did you catch that or are you being obtuse or are you being willfully ignorant or do you have a reading comprehension problem.

I’m showing how ludicrous the accusation is that Joe is being secretly investigated. If he was then Trump would have referred to it in his defense against impeachment, if he was then Barr would have very different responses to the questions about it. If he was then there’s no doubt it would have leaked to help trump. There are several obvious points that show how dumb that accusation is. Seed of doubt is what your spreading. You don’t have evidence or facts to support these thing you say

who said secretly???

 

[Slade3200]

Heard Obama's Lawyers got served papers.

I heard they rolled them up and smoked them. High five!

 

[Ken Mac]

Board membership is mostly do nothing. But the entry requirements are high - A shitload of business experience, experience in the applicable industry, ties to the companies and brass that run companies within the industry. Your knowledge is what makes it worth paying $50,000 per month. That is not only a necessary component, it truly is the only component necessary. Hunter didn't meet any of those even remotely. So what value did he bring? Hmmmmmm.....

Oh yeah, his daddy was the VP of a large and powerful country.

yes I’m well aware of those ignorant claims. So these other smear stories coming out now about his dirty relationships with China energy execs.... where he is dealing with China and other world energy companies, negotiating deals, investing assets, representing clients.... all this is bullshit because he has no experience or expertise? is that your position?

The biggest problem there is that the Chinese company was willing to give Hunter 1.5BUSD (That's B not an M) to fund his newly minted investment fund. I don't think I've ever heard of anything remotely happening in the funding of a new investment fund with that much fucking money to someone who has never even run a fund that had more than $1,000,000.00. I also have a problem with him flying over there on Air Force 2 to conduct private business dealings. I also have a problem with him setting a meeting up with the execs of the Chinese business with his VP father. This is not a new story. You haven't been keeping up or you are ignoring important news because you watch CNN or some other liberal news source or you read the Huffintong Post or some other liberal media print outfit which probably didn't report anything about this until it started becoming an issue for Biden.

I’m not talking about the investment fund deal with China I’m talking about the latest conspiracy being tossed out there about Hunter and Ho’s relationship and China Nuclear Power Company. Prog posted a link a few pages back.

Gotcha. Missed that - my apologies.

My corrected response is now:

Anything Hunter Biden is doing in the Energy business is shady because he has no experience. You're talking about CHINA. I'm sure there is some corrupt shit there too. Now saying that, it seems Hunter is starting to build some experience in the energy business - good on him. But, being a betting man, I would estimate that his experience is in how to launder money and extort money in exchange for access to Political figures and US government decision makers. Just a guess. No evidence yet. It is just a feeling at the moment. Quite strong though. Almost like a tingle up my leg.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to go read up on that shit. More Popcorn material. BBL after I make some more.

Here are some links... these are the China dealings they are trying to tie the Biden’s too but I have yet to see how they link up to crimes.

ANALYSIS: Hunter Biden tied to China firm with questionable dealings

U.S. Nuclear Engineer, China General Nuclear Power Company and Energy Technology International Indicted in Nuclear Power Conspiracy against the United States

Yeah - I agree. I don't see any linkage yet.

But, there is some smoke here - maybe a false alarm.

And - It certainly shows the inescapable conclusion that Neither Joe nor Hunter are very good at accessing character.

And - Birds of a feather.

But it is all smoke right now. Not a lot but the fire may burst into flames. Who knows.

 

[Slade3200]

AG Barr confirms they are reviewing Ukraine information on Hunter Biden from Giuliani

Reviewing information that Rudy sends them is not an investigation based on credible evidence. It means they are vetting intel that they specifically state is suspect to be Russian disinformation. If I called the FBI and told them you were a pedophile does that mean there’s evidence that you’re a pedophile and you’re being investigated for pedophilia?

OK,,,THE doj ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT DO INVESTIGATIONS,,,

You’re right. Jerry my local PI does investigations too. What’s your point?

WHATS YOUR FRIENDS GOVERNMENT TITLE OR POSITION???

That’s classified. Who do you think is doing the secret investigation into Joe? Gina? Rocket man? MiniMike?

 

[Ken Mac]

Ummmm Indictments come after an investigation. Not during. So......

And investigations are usually NEVER shared until they are complete.

You have no evidence and neither do I, but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

Your comment isn't logical. At all.

Oh yeah your right, my bad. Kind of like Hillary’s server investigation that we heard nothing about until they announced the findings. Great point!

I used the term "usually". Did you catch that or are you being obtuse or are you being willfully ignorant or do you have a reading comprehension problem.

I’m showing how ludicrous the accusation is that Joe is being secretly investigated. If he was then Trump would have referred to it in his defense against impeachment, if he was then Barr would have very different responses to the questions about it. If he was then there’s no doubt it would have leaked to help trump. There are several obvious points that show how dumb that accusation is. Seed of doubt is what your spreading. You don’t have evidence or facts to support these thing you say

I know. I realize that you don't find it at all shady that Hunter Biden had a directorship at a Ukraine company, in a business in which he had no experience and his father just coincidentally happened to be the VP of the US, which was requesting large sums of aide, and his dad was the lead on Foreign Affairs for that same country. Hmmm.

Is this your stance?

The aid and position about the prosecutor were widely known and shared bipartisan positions and part of our foreign policy agenda not a personal agenda of the VP. So that point about his QPQ doesn’t hold water. I don’t think you know anything about Hunters experience or position/duties with Burisma so you are taking liberty to accuse him and his father of corruption. I would scrutinize the job as a conflict of interest, that’s a fair point, 5 years ago. The reason why it is being so focused on right now is for the sole purpose of demeaning Joes political campaign which is why this game is transparent and hard to take seriously. I think you know that as well. You seem like a bright guy. Can you be honest about the politicalization of this whole thing?

I made no accusations - so please don't make assumptions of what I'm thinking. I said and will continue to say - there is some shady shit going on there IMO.

 

[Slade3200]

That’s a pussy answer. If there was evidence out there then there would be an indictment. There is no investigation, there is no indictment, there is no evidence. Just trolls like you spreading gossip. You’re not being sly

Ummmm Indictments come after an investigation. Not during. So......

And investigations are usually NEVER shared until they are complete.

You have no evidence and neither do I, but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

Your comment isn't logical. At all.

Oh yeah your right, my bad. Kind of like Hillary’s server investigation that we heard nothing about until they announced the findings. Great point!

I used the term "usually". Did you catch that or are you being obtuse or are you being willfully ignorant or do you have a reading comprehension problem.

I’m showing how ludicrous the accusation is that Joe is being secretly investigated. If he was then Trump would have referred to it in his defense against impeachment, if he was then Barr would have very different responses to the questions about it. If he was then there’s no doubt it would have leaked to help trump. There are several obvious points that show how dumb that accusation is. Seed of doubt is what your spreading. You don’t have evidence or facts to support these thing you say

who said secretly???

Well Prog... if it’s happening and we don’t know about it then it’s a secret... 2+2

 

[Ken Mac]

that is why I said an investigation can determine if its illegal or not,,,

patience my friend,,,

That’s a pussy answer. If there was evidence out there then there would be an indictment. There is no investigation, there is no indictment, there is no evidence. Just trolls like you spreading gossip. You’re not being sly

Ummmm Indictments come after an investigation. Not during. So......

And investigations are usually NEVER shared until they are complete.

You have no evidence and neither do I, but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

Your comment isn't logical. At all.

Investigations into high level people often don’t go unnoticed. You can’t keep everything about an investigation secret.

But yeah, investigations aren’t publicly announced. Which is why it was so corrupt for a Trump to try and force Zelensky to announce one.

That doesn't make him corrupt. What kind of logic is that? He wanted another country to announce one. Not the US. THE US doesn't go around announcing investigations - who cares if other countries do. That's up to them not us or apparently even Trump. And how is that corrupt? He wants them to go after corruption. That's ok in my book. I don't care who you fucking are - even if you're a current candidate for president - if you are doing shady shit it needs to be looked into. Actually - ESPECIALLY if you are running for president. Isn't that what the FBI was doing to Trumps Campaign? Of course they had to doctor evidence and omit key facts and make other errors to the tune of 17 on a FISA warrant extension request in order to keep the ball rolling (NTTIAWWT?). That in itself is some very, very shady shit.

The hypocrisy is palpable.

Why doesn’t the US announce investigations?

Because it hampers the investigation IMO. Stealth = catching people unaware = evidence is more obtainable and can't be fucked with ahead of time. I'm supposing, but I think that is a very good reason.

 

[Slade3200]

yes I’m well aware of those ignorant claims. So these other smear stories coming out now about his dirty relationships with China energy execs.... where he is dealing with China and other world energy companies, negotiating deals, investing assets, representing clients.... all this is bullshit because he has no experience or expertise? is that your position?

The biggest problem there is that the Chinese company was willing to give Hunter 1.5BUSD (That's B not an M) to fund his newly minted investment fund. I don't think I've ever heard of anything remotely happening in the funding of a new investment fund with that much fucking money to someone who has never even run a fund that had more than $1,000,000.00. I also have a problem with him flying over there on Air Force 2 to conduct private business dealings. I also have a problem with him setting a meeting up with the execs of the Chinese business with his VP father. This is not a new story. You haven't been keeping up or you are ignoring important news because you watch CNN or some other liberal news source or you read the Huffintong Post or some other liberal media print outfit which probably didn't report anything about this until it started becoming an issue for Biden.

I’m not talking about the investment fund deal with China I’m talking about the latest conspiracy being tossed out there about Hunter and Ho’s relationship and China Nuclear Power Company. Prog posted a link a few pages back.

Gotcha. Missed that - my apologies.

My corrected response is now:

Anything Hunter Biden is doing in the Energy business is shady because he has no experience. You're talking about CHINA. I'm sure there is some corrupt shit there too. Now saying that, it seems Hunter is starting to build some experience in the energy business - good on him. But, being a betting man, I would estimate that his experience is in how to launder money and extort money in exchange for access to Political figures and US government decision makers. Just a guess. No evidence yet. It is just a feeling at the moment. Quite strong though. Almost like a tingle up my leg.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to go read up on that shit. More Popcorn material. BBL after I make some more.

Here are some links... these are the China dealings they are trying to tie the Biden’s too but I have yet to see how they link up to crimes.

ANALYSIS: Hunter Biden tied to China firm with questionable dealings

U.S. Nuclear Engineer, China General Nuclear Power Company and Energy Technology International Indicted in Nuclear Power Conspiracy against the United States

Yeah - I agree. I don't see any linkage yet.

But, there is some smoke here - maybe a false alarm.

And - It certainly shows the inescapable conclusion that Neither Joe nor Hunter are very good at accessing character.

And - Birds of a feather.

But it is all smoke right now. Not a lot but the fire may burst into flames. Who knows.

Well we don’t know a thing about what their relationship was so I don’t know about the character assessment part. These are all very large companies with many moving parts... and you have to see how this contradicts the “Hunter doesn’t have any experience in the energy business” narrative that been used in the Burisma conversation. Right?

it sounds to me like “how can we make the Biden’s look bad” accuse accuse accuse and connect the invisible dots!

 

[Ken Mac]

Ummmm Indictments come after an investigation. Not during. So......

And investigations are usually NEVER shared until they are complete.

You have no evidence and neither do I, but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

Your comment isn't logical. At all.

Oh yeah your right, my bad. Kind of like Hillary’s server investigation that we heard nothing about until they announced the findings. Great point!

I used the term "usually". Did you catch that or are you being obtuse or are you being willfully ignorant or do you have a reading comprehension problem.

I’m showing how ludicrous the accusation is that Joe is being secretly investigated. If he was then Trump would have referred to it in his defense against impeachment, if he was then Barr would have very different responses to the questions about it. If he was then there’s no doubt it would have leaked to help trump. There are several obvious points that show how dumb that accusation is. Seed of doubt is what your spreading. You don’t have evidence or facts to support these thing you say

I know. I realize that you don't find it at all shady that Hunter Biden had a directorship at a Ukraine company, in a business in which he had no experience and his father just coincidentally happened to be the VP of the US, which was requesting large sums of aide, and his dad was the lead on Foreign Affairs for that same country. Hmmm.

Is this your stance?

The aid and position about the prosecutor were widely known and shared bipartisan positions and part of our foreign policy agenda not a personal agenda of the VP. So that point about his QPQ doesn’t hold water. I don’t think you know anything about Hunters experience or position/duties with Burisma so you are taking liberty to accuse him and his father of corruption. I would scrutinize the job as a conflict of interest, that’s a fair point, 5 years ago. The reason why it is being so focused on right now is for the sole purpose of demeaning Joes political campaign which is why this game is transparent and hard to take seriously. I think you know that as well. You seem like a bright guy. Can you be honest about the politicalization of this whole thing?

It has nothing to do with Joe Biden's campaign in my estimation. It has everything to do with draining the swamp as I see it. Our politicians (on both sides!) get away with some very, very shady shit.

How is Nancy Pelosi worth 22M dollars on a congress salary with all of the supposed expenses that you have to pay for on your own? Either she is very frugal or she has made some cash using her name or political clout or whatever. She isn't the only one, just one example. They ALL fucking do it except Bernie. Bernie gets a big pass in my book. He has invested well and saved and he is frugal and he is worth somewhere between 2 and 3 M after years of service. I can see that. No problem with it.

 

[colfax_m]

That’s a pussy answer. If there was evidence out there then there would be an indictment. There is no investigation, there is no indictment, there is no evidence. Just trolls like you spreading gossip. You’re not being sly

Ummmm Indictments come after an investigation. Not during. So......

And investigations are usually NEVER shared until they are complete.

You have no evidence and neither do I, but that doesn't mean someone else doesn't.

Your comment isn't logical. At all.

Investigations into high level people often don’t go unnoticed. You can’t keep everything about an investigation secret.

But yeah, investigations aren’t publicly announced. Which is why it was so corrupt for a Trump to try and force Zelensky to announce one.

That doesn't make him corrupt. What kind of logic is that? He wanted another country to announce one. Not the US. THE US doesn't go around announcing investigations - who cares if other countries do. That's up to them not us or apparently even Trump. And how is that corrupt? He wants them to go after corruption. That's ok in my book. I don't care who you fucking are - even if you're a current candidate for president - if you are doing shady shit it needs to be looked into. Actually - ESPECIALLY if you are running for president. Isn't that what the FBI was doing to Trumps Campaign? Of course they had to doctor evidence and omit key facts and make other errors to the tune of 17 on a FISA warrant extension request in order to keep the ball rolling (NTTIAWWT?). That in itself is some very, very shady shit.

The hypocrisy is palpable.

Why doesn’t the US announce investigations?

Because it hampers the investigation IMO. Stealth = catching people unaware = evidence is more obtainable and can't be fucked with ahead of time. I'm supposing, but I think that is a very good reason.

People will make assumptions about you knowing you’re under investigation. That would be unfair to do to someone who hasn’t been determined to have done anything wrong.

Trump demanding Zelensky announce an investigation was intended to hurt him.