I understand that Trumps last defense against impeachment is going to be proving that there was legit corruption with the Biden/Ukraine situation. Problem is there is no evidence of laws being broken and this is a thing of the past that was out in the open. To me it is obviously a bad PR situation that Trump was looking to exploit in next years campaign.
To those who think it’s a legit concern... what exactly is left to be discovered about Hunter Biden’s board seat at Burisma?
Can somebody explain what they are looking for? Or what questions are still unanswered?
then again, there's no evidence and proof that trump was looking for political gain vs. after someone for breaking a crime. so we need to "look into it" to see if there was something to dig deeper into.
if we're gonna do that whole "no proof" then let's back it up a step and go with not assigning an emotional stance to this and by matter of fact ONLY - how can we prove trumps intent to hurt biden politically vs. look into this potential corruption?
i have not ever seen we could prove that intent.
yet, here we are asking for a burden of proof to justify what has no proof itself.
You are right that intent is incredibly difficult to prove. The tough part is that the act of leveraging political power to attack political opponents and try to incriminate them is a really big deal. It’s what hitler and Stalin And other horrible dictators did... that’s why there are laws against doing these things in our country and it’s why the Dems are reacting so hard against it.
i am not saying it isn't. i am saying it's not been proven that is what he is doing. *nothing* was found on trump in 2 years of looking. our FBI went out of their way to LOOK for things and make them up if they had to. however you feel about Russia - in my mind however this is just proof there wasn't a case valid enough to warrant all the attention it got.
yet, it set the standard that you really don't need proof. kavanaugh took it home. just accusations and that alone justifies whatever you must to do to prove them correct. if that is the case, it can't be a foul when done to the bidens. if you want to say "no we must play by the rules" i'm down - however that also means we need to prove trumps intent and put away the accusations are enough mantra.
the left, in my mind, want both to ensure they get what they want. i don't care who it's about or the why's behind it - this is simply a matter of saying NO to that process / mindset regardless of who it is aimed at. you let them do this to trump, you and i ain't got a shot in hell if they want to come at us for "whatever".
we protect the rights and processes - not people. so when i work on the process and base rights we all must adhere to, i'm told quite often i worship trump. except when i tell someone on the right to stop making shit up, then i'm a snowflake and obama lover.
to love the other side, all you gotta do anymore is not like any 1 small facet of your own side. fucked up world, isn't it? *we* have to put a focus on stopping that and when it comes up like this, remember defending the process isn't the same as defending trump.
they either had enough to move on in a normal world or they don't. to create abnormal situations to "scare" people to your side is how we got here.
the D"s had plenty of time to do whatever they needed to do to prove their case. if they failed to do it, sorry. move on.
