A chaotic and haphazard response to a NATIONAL problem is not conducive to success. There needs to be coordination and leadership.
If that were true then you would understand what the overhead on those places is and the need for volume you DON'T get being a quarter or third full
Jealous much?
Dude you're a joke! You spend your life on a message board posting crap! In order to be the most intelligent poster...wouldn't you at some point have to post something intelligent?
You libs will be so disappointed when the Coronavirus disappears when the warm weather arrives.
Jealous much?
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The poor things thought the Chinese Virus was Satan's answer to their prayers.
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No, I have only watched several videos of lectures from several doctors and epidemiologists about how they have never actually cultured the virus to prove it even exists. There have been no electron microscopes actually looking at the "virus."
I have also found out about how the PCR test is not a gold standard test.
IT is a very complex topic that cannot be summed up in a short article, you would need to watch an hour. . . hour and half lecture to really understand what is going on, I am sorry.
I found an article, but it is VERY complex.
In short, depending on how you DO the test, will actually, believe it or not, sometimes, for some diseases, determine the results.
For instance, even YOU could have, according to the diagnostic criteria for lung cancer, have those types of cells in YOUR lungs, if those tests were amplified enough times. However, your immune system will deal with that threat in a timely fashion.
What this means, is, chances are, a very large percentage of the population already has Covid-19. The CDC and FDA wanted to maintain control of testing protocols, and not have either independent authorities, or the WHO, or the State authorities have authority over the testing procedures, so that they would be the ones would be allowed to determine how many times the PCR test could be amplified. This then, determines how many folks will "test positive for the virus."
. . . and thus, will enable the media to promote scare tactics and then political police state measures.
Here, I found a pretty unbiased article here;
Diagnostic Testing for the Novel Coronavirus
This Viewpoint explains the technical and regulatory challenges that hampered diagnostic testing for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) during the early spread of infection in the US and considers the unintended consequences of making testing more widely available,...jamanetwork.com
Two good lectures telling the truth about what is going on here;
The article referenced in that last video is here, if you care to try to comprehend it.
Folder Contents
The folks that run things like to suppress stuff. That is why you are in prison now.
He also does a much better job of making the PCR test issue understandable.
"From âCDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panelâ [1]:
âDetection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms.â
Translation: A positive test doesnât guarantee that the COVID virus is causing infection at all. And, ahem, reading between the lines, maybe the COVID virus might not be in the patientâs body at all, either.
From the World Health Organization (WHO): âCoronavirus disease (COVID-19) technical guidance: Laboratory testing for 2019-nCoV in humansâ [2]:
âSeveral assays that detect the 2019-nCoV have been and are currently under development, both in-house and commercially. Some assays may detect only the novel virus [COVID] and some may also detect other strains (e.g. SARS-CoV) that are genetically similar.â
Translation: Some PCR tests register positive for types of coronavirus that have nothing to do with COVIDâincluding plain old coronas that cause nothing more than a cold.
The WHO document adds this little piece: âProtocol use limitations: Optional clinical specimens for testing has [have] not yet been validated.â
Translation: Weâre not sure which tissue samples to take from the patient, in order for the test to have any validity.
From the FDA: âLabCorp COVID-19RT-PCR test EUA Summary: ACCELERATED EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) SUMMARYCOVID-19 RT-PCR TEST (LABORATORY CORPORATION OF AMERICA)â [3]:
ââŚThe SARS-CoV-2RNA [COVID virus] is generally detectable in respiratory specimens during the acute phase of infection. Positive results are indicative of the presence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA; clinical correlation with patient history and other diagnostic information is necessary to determine patient infection statusâŚTHE AGENT DETECTED MAY NOT BE THE DEFINITE CAUSE OF DISEASE (CAPS are mine). Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities.â
Translation: On the one hand, we claim the test can âgenerallyâ detect the presence of the COVID virus in a patient. But we admit that âthe agent detectedâ on the test, by which we mean COVID, âmay not be the definite cause of disease.â We also admit that, unless the patient has an acute infection, we canât find COVID. Therefore, the idea of âasymptomatic patientsâ confirmed by the test is nonsense. And even though a positive test for COVID may not indicate the actual cause of disease, all positive tests must be reportedâand they will be counted as âCOVID cases.â Regardless.
From a manufacturer of PCR test kit elements, Creative Diagnostics, âSARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus Multiplex RT-qPCR Kitâ [4]:"
No, I have only watched several videos of lectures from several doctors and epidemiologists about how they have never actually cultured the virus to prove it even exists. There have been no electron microscopes actually looking at the "virus."
I have also found out about how the PCR test is not a gold standard test.
IT is a very complex topic that cannot be summed up in a short article, you would need to watch an hour. . . hour and half lecture to really understand what is going on, I am sorry.
I found an article, but it is VERY complex.
In short, depending on how you DO the test, will actually, believe it or not, sometimes, for some diseases, determine the results.
For instance, even YOU could have, according to the diagnostic criteria for lung cancer, have those types of cells in YOUR lungs, if those tests were amplified enough times. However, your immune system will deal with that threat in a timely fashion.
What this means, is, chances are, a very large percentage of the population already has Covid-19. The CDC and FDA wanted to maintain control of testing protocols, and not have either independent authorities, or the WHO, or the State authorities have authority over the testing procedures, so that they would be the ones would be allowed to determine how many times the PCR test could be amplified. This then, determines how many folks will "test positive for the virus."
. . . and thus, will enable the media to promote scare tactics and then political police state measures.
Here, I found a pretty unbiased article here;
Diagnostic Testing for the Novel Coronavirus
This Viewpoint explains the technical and regulatory challenges that hampered diagnostic testing for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) during the early spread of infection in the US and considers the unintended consequences of making testing more widely available,...
Two good lectures telling the truth about what is going on here;
The article referenced in that last video is here, if you care to try to comprehend it.
Folder Contents
The folks that run things like to suppress stuff. That is why you are in prison now.
He also does a much better job of making the PCR test issue understandable.
"From âCDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panelâ [1]:
âDetection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms.â
Translation: A positive test doesnât guarantee that the COVID virus is causing infection at all. And, ahem, reading between the lines, maybe the COVID virus might not be in the patientâs body at all, either.
From the World Health Organization (WHO): âCoronavirus disease (COVID-19) technical guidance: Laboratory testing for 2019-nCoV in humansâ [2]:
âSeveral assays that detect the 2019-nCoV have been and are currently under development, both in-house and commercially. Some assays may detect only the novel virus [COVID] and some may also detect other strains (e.g. SARS-CoV) that are genetically similar.â
Translation: Some PCR tests register positive for types of coronavirus that have nothing to do with COVIDâincluding plain old coronas that cause nothing more than a cold.
The WHO document adds this little piece: âProtocol use limitations: Optional clinical specimens for testing has [have] not yet been validated.â
Translation: Weâre not sure which tissue samples to take from the patient, in order for the test to have any validity.
From the FDA: âLabCorp COVID-19RT-PCR test EUA Summary: ACCELERATED EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (EUA) SUMMARYCOVID-19 RT-PCR TEST (LABORATORY CORPORATION OF AMERICA)â [3]:
ââŚThe SARS-CoV-2RNA [COVID virus] is generally detectable in respiratory specimens during the acute phase of infection. Positive results are indicative of the presence of SARS-CoV-2 RNA; clinical correlation with patient history and other diagnostic information is necessary to determine patient infection statusâŚTHE AGENT DETECTED MAY NOT BE THE DEFINITE CAUSE OF DISEASE (CAPS are mine). Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities.â
Translation: On the one hand, we claim the test can âgenerallyâ detect the presence of the COVID virus in a patient. But we admit that âthe agent detectedâ on the test, by which we mean COVID, âmay not be the definite cause of disease.â We also admit that, unless the patient has an acute infection, we canât find COVID. Therefore, the idea of âasymptomatic patientsâ confirmed by the test is nonsense. And even though a positive test for COVID may not indicate the actual cause of disease, all positive tests must be reportedâand they will be counted as âCOVID cases.â Regardless.
From a manufacturer of PCR test kit elements, Creative Diagnostics, âSARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus Multiplex RT-qPCR Kitâ [4]:"
Well these tests are new and it is rare to get it right the first time. Everyone is trying to develop a test for it and thus some will be betters than others depending on a variety of factors. Everyone is trying to determine what the test results mean and how to apply the results in the correct manner. When you do not have a lot of time on your side it will be a hit or miss as many different sources are working on something relative new. If they have the experience, knowledge, equipment and share results, then they have a better change at success. Even if its a near miss then they can improve on it. Time is a major factor. Panic, economic issues, and politicians are blocking the street. Science is not always perfect but rumors are worse. It is easy to find imperfection and harder to be perfect on the first pitch.
False positive will happen but it it motivates them to take precautions then its not a bad thing when this problem is contagious. Some will get it and it appears that they will survive with no or minimal symptoms. How deadly it is depends on other factors. So catching the disease is one issue and its spread is secondary issue. So both have to be addressed.
