How to win a war (or not)

[harmonica]

The enemy wasn't Germany or the German people, it was the Nazi regime but yet we firebombed civilians in Dresden to convince Nazi maniacs to surrender. Today the caring and gentle American military arrests combat Marines for pissing on a corpse. LBJ and the CIA set up the rules in Vietnam so that we could win every battle and still lose the freaking war. Didn't we learn anything in fifty years?

Interesting you should bring up the firebombing of Dresden. That was one of the reasons that the Geneva Conventions was enacted.

why??
why was Dresden different ?

Because of the huge loss of life by civilians. And, there were other things that happened, and other atrocities committed in WWII that caused them to be drawn up. But, then again, every war since WWII has contributed towards expanding the Geneva Conventions, because we keep coming up with newer and more horrific ways to kill each other.

Germany, England, Italy, and the US bombed civilians--that was part of the war
tough shit
civilians die in war--this is a fact

It's patently obvious to even the most casual observer that you have never served. Why do I say this? Because if you had, you would have a better understanding of the Geneva Conventions and why they were created. It was after WWII that people looked around at all the atrocities that were committed and decided that there needed to be rules for warfare. Why do I know that? Because there was 3 days of training per year called Navy Rights and Responsibilities, where we were taught about things like that, as well as why we were there, and how our compensation measured up with the civilian sector among other things.

your post proves you are a dumbass
served??? in the military? yes I did
WTF does that have to do with agree or disagreeing with bombing in WW2???!!!!
that makes NO sense
....you must have about 0 knowledge of conflicts/wars/etc --most of the deaths in WW2 were civilian--many from starvation

It's patently obvious to even the most casual observer that you have never served.

hahahahhahah = DUMBSHIT

 

[harmonica]

The enemy wasn't Germany or the German people, it was the Nazi regime but yet we firebombed civilians in Dresden to convince Nazi maniacs to surrender. Today the caring and gentle American military arrests combat Marines for pissing on a corpse. LBJ and the CIA set up the rules in Vietnam so that we could win every battle and still lose the freaking war. Didn't we learn anything in fifty years?

Interesting you should bring up the firebombing of Dresden. That was one of the reasons that the Geneva Conventions was enacted.

why??
why was Dresden different ?

Because of the huge loss of life by civilians. And, there were other things that happened, and other atrocities committed in WWII that caused them to be drawn up. But, then again, every war since WWII has contributed towards expanding the Geneva Conventions, because we keep coming up with newer and more horrific ways to kill each other.

Germany, England, Italy, and the US bombed civilians--that was part of the war
tough shit
civilians die in war--this is a fact

It's patently obvious to even the most casual observer that you have never served. Why do I say this? Because if you had, you would have a better understanding of the Geneva Conventions and why they were created. It was after WWII that people looked around at all the atrocities that were committed and decided that there needed to be rules for warfare. Why do I know that? Because there was 3 days of training per year called Navy Rights and Responsibilities, where we were taught about things like that, as well as why we were there, and how our compensation measured up with the civilian sector among other things.

you people live in fairytale land where everybody passes out flowers

 

[whitehall]

You don't have to be an astronaut to criticize NASA and you don't have to be a WW2 Vet to criticize the strategy that ultimately led to victory. As a matter of fact an American civilian was probably better informed during WW2 than members of the Military even though FDR pretty much threw the 1st Amendment in the garbage and forced the media to become the propaganda arm of his administration. Like it or not you can't win a shooting war without taking and holding real estate. Didn't we learn that concept in Vietnam when the freaking CIA was running the show and LBJ set the rules so that we could win every battle and still lose the freaking war? Harry Truman illegally sent Troops to Korea on an executive order and botched the mission so badly that the chicken shit media called it the "forgotten war".. LBJ sent Troops to Veitnam on a fake crisis and Bill Clinton bombed a defenseless country in Europe when he was literally caught with his pants down. George Bush did everything right in Iraq and American Troops went farther faster and took less casualties than any other conflict of it's type but the democrat party managed to criticize his motives even after they gave him permission to use ground Troops.