How To "Free Palestine"

[MJB12741]

Indigeneity is not measured by DNA or even by bloodlines. The POINT of defining and identifying indigenous cultures is to preserve the cultures in their places of origin against invading and conquering and colonizing foreigner cultures.

Europeans that practice Judaism are no more indigenous to Palestine than Europeans that practice Christianity, though both religions had their origins there.

Wrong. Most European Jews are indigenous to Israel. Except for converts to Judaism. Are you not even aware the Jews have been dispersed all over the world from the Levant since antiquity?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indigeneity is not measured by DNA or even by bloodlines. The POINT of defining and identifying indigenous cultures is to preserve the cultures in their places of origin against invading and conquering and colonizing foreigner cultures.

Europeans that practice Judaism are no more indigenous to Palestine than Europeans that practice Christianity, though both religions had their origins there.

Wrong. Most European Jews are indigenous to Israel. Except for converts to Judaism. Are you not even aware the Jews have been dispersed all over the world from the Levant since antiquity?

Why was that?

 

[montelatici]

Indigeneity is not measured by DNA or even by bloodlines. The POINT of defining and identifying indigenous cultures is to preserve the cultures in their places of origin against invading and conquering and colonizing foreigner cultures.

Europeans that practice Judaism are no more indigenous to Palestine than Europeans that practice Christianity, though both religions had their origins there.

Wrong. Most European Jews are indigenous to Israel. Except for converts to Judaism. Are you not even aware the Jews have been dispersed all over the world from the Levant since antiquity?

Yeah right.

Here we show that all four major founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders share a similar deep European ancestry.

Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Ashkenazi Jewish matrilineages mainly of European origin

 

[MJB12741]

Indigeneity is not measured by DNA or even by bloodlines. The POINT of defining and identifying indigenous cultures is to preserve the cultures in their places of origin against invading and conquering and colonizing foreigner cultures.

Europeans that practice Judaism are no more indigenous to Palestine than Europeans that practice Christianity, though both religions had their origins there.

Wrong. Most European Jews are indigenous to Israel. Except for converts to Judaism. Are you not even aware the Jews have been dispersed all over the world from the Levant since antiquity?

Yeah right.

Here we show that all four major founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders share a similar deep European ancestry.

Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Ashkenazi Jewish matrilineages mainly of European origin

A blog. Another one of your unbiased, documented sources you refer to, eh Monte?

 

[montelatici]

Indigeneity is not measured by DNA or even by bloodlines. The POINT of defining and identifying indigenous cultures is to preserve the cultures in their places of origin against invading and conquering and colonizing foreigner cultures.

Europeans that practice Judaism are no more indigenous to Palestine than Europeans that practice Christianity, though both religions had their origins there.

Wrong. Most European Jews are indigenous to Israel. Except for converts to Judaism. Are you not even aware the Jews have been dispersed all over the world from the Levant since antiquity?

Yeah right.

Here we show that all four major founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders share a similar deep European ancestry.

Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Ashkenazi Jewish matrilineages mainly of European origin

A blog. Another one of your unbiased, documented sources you refer to, eh Monte?

An anthropology blog reporting on an article in
Nature Communications 4, Article number: 2543 doi:10.1038/ncomms3543

But if you want it direct from the AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF SCIENCE here it is:

"The result was very clear-cut, the authors say: As reported online today in Nature Communications, more than 80% of Ashkenazi mtDNAs had their origins thousands of years ago in Western Europe, during or before Biblical times—and in some cases even before farming came to that part of the continent some 7500 years ago. The closest matches were with mtDNAs from people who today live in and around Italy. The results imply that the Jews can trace their heritage to women who had lived in Europe at that time. Very few Ashkenazi mtDNAs could be traced to the Middle East."

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/10/did-modern-jews-originate-italy

 

[MJB12741]

Indigeneity is not measured by DNA or even by bloodlines. The POINT of defining and identifying indigenous cultures is to preserve the cultures in their places of origin against invading and conquering and colonizing foreigner cultures.

Europeans that practice Judaism are no more indigenous to Palestine than Europeans that practice Christianity, though both religions had their origins there.

Wrong. Most European Jews are indigenous to Israel. Except for converts to Judaism. Are you not even aware the Jews have been dispersed all over the world from the Levant since antiquity?

Yeah right.

Here we show that all four major founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders share a similar deep European ancestry.

Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Ashkenazi Jewish matrilineages mainly of European origin

A blog. Another one of your unbiased, documented sources you refer to, eh Monte?

An anthropology blog reporting on an article in
Nature Communications 4, Article number: 2543 doi:10.1038/ncomms3543

But if you want it direct from the AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF SCIENCE here it is:

"The result was very clear-cut, the authors say: As reported online today in Nature Communications, more than 80% of Ashkenazi mtDNAs had their origins thousands of years ago in Western Europe, during or before Biblical times—and in some cases even before farming came to that part of the continent some 7500 years ago. The closest matches were with mtDNAs from people who today live in and around Italy. The results imply that the Jews can trace their heritage to women who had lived in Europe at that time. Very few Ashkenazi mtDNAs could be traced to the Middle East."

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/10/did-modern-jews-originate-italy

How do ya like that? Modern Jews originated in Italy. Please excuse me while I go tell my neighbors.

 

[Eloy]

Europeans that practice Judaism are no more indigenous to Palestine than Europeans that practice Christianity, though both religions had their origins there.

Wrong. Most European Jews are indigenous to Israel. Except for converts to Judaism. Are you not even aware the Jews have been dispersed all over the world from the Levant since antiquity?

Yeah right.

Here we show that all four major founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders share a similar deep European ancestry.

Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Ashkenazi Jewish matrilineages mainly of European origin

A blog. Another one of your unbiased, documented sources you refer to, eh Monte?

An anthropology blog reporting on an article in
Nature Communications 4, Article number: 2543 doi:10.1038/ncomms3543

But if you want it direct from the AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF SCIENCE here it is:

"The result was very clear-cut, the authors say: As reported online today in Nature Communications, more than 80% of Ashkenazi mtDNAs had their origins thousands of years ago in Western Europe, during or before Biblical times—and in some cases even before farming came to that part of the continent some 7500 years ago. The closest matches were with mtDNAs from people who today live in and around Italy. The results imply that the Jews can trace their heritage to women who had lived in Europe at that time. Very few Ashkenazi mtDNAs could be traced to the Middle East."

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/10/did-modern-jews-originate-italy

How do ya like that? Modern Jews originated in Italy. Please excuse me while I go tell my neighbors.

Of course it is rather obvious by their appearance that modern Jews come from Europe and are not Semites. I have no problem accepting the contribution of science which indicates Italy as the source of mtDNAs. It is worth noting that over the millennia there is a possibility of migration to Italy of women converts from farther east such as the Balkan countries or Greece (Magna Graecia).
Magna Graecia - Wikipedia

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Wrong. Most European Jews are indigenous to Israel. Except for converts to Judaism. Are you not even aware the Jews have been dispersed all over the world from the Levant since antiquity?

Yeah right.

Here we show that all four major founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders share a similar deep European ancestry.

Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Ashkenazi Jewish matrilineages mainly of European origin

A blog. Another one of your unbiased, documented sources you refer to, eh Monte?

An anthropology blog reporting on an article in
Nature Communications 4, Article number: 2543 doi:10.1038/ncomms3543

But if you want it direct from the AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF SCIENCE here it is:

"The result was very clear-cut, the authors say: As reported online today in Nature Communications, more than 80% of Ashkenazi mtDNAs had their origins thousands of years ago in Western Europe, during or before Biblical times—and in some cases even before farming came to that part of the continent some 7500 years ago. The closest matches were with mtDNAs from people who today live in and around Italy. The results imply that the Jews can trace their heritage to women who had lived in Europe at that time. Very few Ashkenazi mtDNAs could be traced to the Middle East."

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/10/did-modern-jews-originate-italy

How do ya like that? Modern Jews originated in Italy. Please excuse me while I go tell my neighbors.

Of course it is rather obvious by their appearance that modern Jews come from Europe and are not Semites. I have no problem accepting the contribution of science which indicates Italy as the source of mtDNAs. It is worth noting that over the millennia there is a possibility of migration to Italy of women converts from farther east such as the Balkan countries or Greece (Magna Graecia).
Magna Graecia - Wikipedia

Please read Post # 88 in the thread My Favorite things About Israel. In it, I describe my experience of meeting a light-skinned, light-haired Palestinian Arab. (So Arabs can also be light-colored.)

 

[Eloy]

Yeah right.

Here we show that all four major founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders share a similar deep European ancestry.

Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Ashkenazi Jewish matrilineages mainly of European origin

A blog. Another one of your unbiased, documented sources you refer to, eh Monte?

An anthropology blog reporting on an article in
Nature Communications 4, Article number: 2543 doi:10.1038/ncomms3543

But if you want it direct from the AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF SCIENCE here it is:

"The result was very clear-cut, the authors say: As reported online today in Nature Communications, more than 80% of Ashkenazi mtDNAs had their origins thousands of years ago in Western Europe, during or before Biblical times—and in some cases even before farming came to that part of the continent some 7500 years ago. The closest matches were with mtDNAs from people who today live in and around Italy. The results imply that the Jews can trace their heritage to women who had lived in Europe at that time. Very few Ashkenazi mtDNAs could be traced to the Middle East."

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/10/did-modern-jews-originate-italy

How do ya like that? Modern Jews originated in Italy. Please excuse me while I go tell my neighbors.

Of course it is rather obvious by their appearance that modern Jews come from Europe and are not Semites. I have no problem accepting the contribution of science which indicates Italy as the source of mtDNAs. It is worth noting that over the millennia there is a possibility of migration to Italy of women converts from farther east such as the Balkan countries or Greece (Magna Graecia).
Magna Graecia - Wikipedia

Please read Post # 88 in the thread My Favorite things About Israel. In it, I describe my experience of meeting a light-skinned, light-haired Palestinian Arab. (So Arabs can also be light-colored.)

No-one believes a blond blue-eyed Aryan Arab is typical of Semites. Who can tell for sure who anyone is with so much loving going-on in our world.

 

[Shusha]

You can't make this stuff up, folks. A couple of generations ago Jews weren't white, blond and blue-eyed enough. Now Jews are too white, blond and blue-eyed.

And by the way, using racial characteristics as part of a discussion about national and cultural belonging is abhorrent.

 

[Eloy]

You can't make this stuff up, folks. A couple of generations ago Jews weren't white, blond and blue-eyed enough. Now Jews are too white, blond and blue-eyed.

And by the way, using racial characteristics as part of a discussion about national and cultural belonging is abhorrent.

So many Jews did not fit the racial stereotype so easily during the Third Reich that they were required to wear distinguishing stars on their clothing.

Polish boy selling NAZI mandated Star of David ... Summer 1940 Warsaw

 

[MJB12741]

You can't make this stuff up, folks. A couple of generations ago Jews weren't white, blond and blue-eyed enough. Now Jews are too white, blond and blue-eyed.

And by the way, using racial characteristics as part of a discussion about national and cultural belonging is abhorrent.

So many Jews did not fit the racial stereotype so easily during the Third Reich that they were required to wear distinguishing stars on their clothing.

Polish boy selling NAZI mandated Star of David ... Summer 1940 Warsaw

So, what does this have to do with freeing Palestine? Do you agree Israel's peace offerings, security fence & land concessions has kept Palestinians captives in Israel? Shame on those Zionists.

 

[MJB12741]

You can't make this stuff up, folks. A couple of generations ago Jews weren't white, blond and blue-eyed enough. Now Jews are too white, blond and blue-eyed.

And by the way, using racial characteristics as part of a discussion about national and cultural belonging is abhorrent.

So many Jews did not fit the racial stereotype so easily during the Third Reich that they were required to wear distinguishing stars on their clothing.

Polish boy selling NAZI mandated Star of David ... Summer 1940 Warsaw

So, what does this have to do with freeing Palestine? Do you agree Israel's peace offerings, security fence & land concessions has kept Palestinians captives in Israel? Shame on those Zionists.

Seriously, Israel needs to abandon their entire Zionist agenda & help free the Palestinians by treating them with the same Arab country love, justice & respect the Palestinians are so well accustomed to & so well deserve. Don't you agree?

 

[montelatici]

You can't make this stuff up, folks. A couple of generations ago Jews weren't white, blond and blue-eyed enough. Now Jews are too white, blond and blue-eyed.

And by the way, using racial characteristics as part of a discussion about national and cultural belonging is abhorrent.

So many Jews did not fit the racial stereotype so easily during the Third Reich that they were required to wear distinguishing stars on their clothing.

Polish boy selling NAZI mandated Star of David ... Summer 1940 Warsaw

So, what does this have to do with freeing Palestine? Do you agree Israel's peace offerings, security fence & land concessions has kept Palestinians captives in Israel? Shame on those Zionists.

Seriously, Israel needs to abandon their entire Zionist agenda & help free the Palestinians by treating them with the same Arab country love, justice & respect the Palestinians are so well accustomed to & so well deserve. Don't you agree?

How do you think the Palestinians should be treated in their own land, not other countires? Can you give us your actual view on this?

 

[MJB12741]

You can't make this stuff up, folks. A couple of generations ago Jews weren't white, blond and blue-eyed enough. Now Jews are too white, blond and blue-eyed.

And by the way, using racial characteristics as part of a discussion about national and cultural belonging is abhorrent.

So many Jews did not fit the racial stereotype so easily during the Third Reich that they were required to wear distinguishing stars on their clothing.

Polish boy selling NAZI mandated Star of David ... Summer 1940 Warsaw

So, what does this have to do with freeing Palestine? Do you agree Israel's peace offerings, security fence & land concessions has kept Palestinians captives in Israel? Shame on those Zionists.

Seriously, Israel needs to abandon their entire Zionist agenda & help free the Palestinians by treating them with the same Arab country love, justice & respect the Palestinians are so well accustomed to & so well deserve. Don't you agree?

How do you think the Palestinians should be treated in their own land, not other countires? Can you give us your actual view on this?

Just like the Arab countries treated them in their own land. Ever hear of any Palestinians bitching about that?

 

[montelatici]

You can't make this stuff up, folks. A couple of generations ago Jews weren't white, blond and blue-eyed enough. Now Jews are too white, blond and blue-eyed.

And by the way, using racial characteristics as part of a discussion about national and cultural belonging is abhorrent.

So many Jews did not fit the racial stereotype so easily during the Third Reich that they were required to wear distinguishing stars on their clothing.

Polish boy selling NAZI mandated Star of David ... Summer 1940 Warsaw

So, what does this have to do with freeing Palestine? Do you agree Israel's peace offerings, security fence & land concessions has kept Palestinians captives in Israel? Shame on those Zionists.

Seriously, Israel needs to abandon their entire Zionist agenda & help free the Palestinians by treating them with the same Arab country love, justice & respect the Palestinians are so well accustomed to & so well deserve. Don't you agree?

How do you think the Palestinians should be treated in their own land, not other countires? Can you give us your actual view on this?

Just like the Arab countries treated them in their own land. Ever hear of any Palestinians bitching about that?

They assassinated Jordan after he annexed the WB. LOL

 

[MJB12741]

So many Jews did not fit the racial stereotype so easily during the Third Reich that they were required to wear distinguishing stars on their clothing.

Polish boy selling NAZI mandated Star of David ... Summer 1940 Warsaw

So, what does this have to do with freeing Palestine? Do you agree Israel's peace offerings, security fence & land concessions has kept Palestinians captives in Israel? Shame on those Zionists.

Seriously, Israel needs to abandon their entire Zionist agenda & help free the Palestinians by treating them with the same Arab country love, justice & respect the Palestinians are so well accustomed to & so well deserve. Don't you agree?

How do you think the Palestinians should be treated in their own land, not other countires? Can you give us your actual view on this?

Just like the Arab countries treated them in their own land. Ever hear of any Palestinians bitching about that?

They assassinated Jordan after he annexed the WB. LOL

Say what? Oh Monte, please do all you can to save what precious few marbles you may still have left.

 

[montelatici]

So, what does this have to do with freeing Palestine? Do you agree Israel's peace offerings, security fence & land concessions has kept Palestinians captives in Israel? Shame on those Zionists.

Seriously, Israel needs to abandon their entire Zionist agenda & help free the Palestinians by treating them with the same Arab country love, justice & respect the Palestinians are so well accustomed to & so well deserve. Don't you agree?

How do you think the Palestinians should be treated in their own land, not other countires? Can you give us your actual view on this?

Just like the Arab countries treated them in their own land. Ever hear of any Palestinians bitching about that?

They assassinated Jordan after he annexed the WB. LOL

Say what? Oh Monte, please do all you can to save what precious few marbles you may still have left.

It's amazing how little you know about the issue, yet you keep posting hilarious comments that make it clear you are ignorant of the facts. And yes, assassinating the King of the country that annexed your country is a little more than "bitching" about it, moron.

"King Abdullah of Jordan was assassinated at the entrance to the El Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem. His assailant, who was shot dead by the bodyguard, was an Arab who had been a member of a military force associated with the ex-Mufti of Jerusalem.

In 1950, after the fighting between the Arab States and Israel had been brought to an end, King Abdullah formally incorporated within his kingdom that part of Palestine which bordered on Jordan and which was still occupied by his troops. This step was subsequently recognised by the British and American Governments. It naturally provoked the bitter enmity of the ex-Mufti, whose movement for an Arab Palestine State has steadily been losing support ever since...."

Assassination of King Abdullah

 

[MJB12741]

Seriously, Israel needs to abandon their entire Zionist agenda & help free the Palestinians by treating them with the same Arab country love, justice & respect the Palestinians are so well accustomed to & so well deserve. Don't you agree?

How do you think the Palestinians should be treated in their own land, not other countires? Can you give us your actual view on this?

Just like the Arab countries treated them in their own land. Ever hear of any Palestinians bitching about that?

They assassinated Jordan after he annexed the WB. LOL

Say what? Oh Monte, please do all you can to save what precious few marbles you may still have left.

It's amazing how little you know about the issue, yet you keep posting hilarious comments that make it clear you are ignorant of the facts. And yes, assassinating the King of the country that annexed your country is a little more than "bitching" about it, moron.

"King Abdullah of Jordan was assassinated at the entrance to the El Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem. His assailant, who was shot dead by the bodyguard, was an Arab who had been a member of a military force associated with the ex-Mufti of Jerusalem.

In 1950, after the fighting between the Arab States and Israel had been brought to an end, King Abdullah formally incorporated within his kingdom that part of Palestine which bordered on Jordan and which was still occupied by his troops. This step was subsequently recognised by the British and American Governments. It naturally provoked the bitter enmity of the ex-Mufti, whose movement for an Arab Palestine State has steadily been losing support ever since...."

Assassination of King Abdullah

Well how about that. This guy is dead by assassination. I wonder how queen Noor is doing about it these days. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

 

[montelatici]

How do you think the Palestinians should be treated in their own land, not other countires? Can you give us your actual view on this?

Just like the Arab countries treated them in their own land. Ever hear of any Palestinians bitching about that?

They assassinated Jordan after he annexed the WB. LOL

Say what? Oh Monte, please do all you can to save what precious few marbles you may still have left.

It's amazing how little you know about the issue, yet you keep posting hilarious comments that make it clear you are ignorant of the facts. And yes, assassinating the King of the country that annexed your country is a little more than "bitching" about it, moron.

"King Abdullah of Jordan was assassinated at the entrance to the El Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem. His assailant, who was shot dead by the bodyguard, was an Arab who had been a member of a military force associated with the ex-Mufti of Jerusalem.

In 1950, after the fighting between the Arab States and Israel had been brought to an end, King Abdullah formally incorporated within his kingdom that part of Palestine which bordered on Jordan and which was still occupied by his troops. This step was subsequently recognised by the British and American Governments. It naturally provoked the bitter enmity of the ex-Mufti, whose movement for an Arab Palestine State has steadily been losing support ever since...."

Assassination of King Abdullah

Well how about that. This guy is dead by assassination. I wonder how queen Noor is doing about it these days. Amazing what we can learn from Monte.

Do you do it on purpose? Do you just ignore the archival news story about the event that was posted? Or do you want people to know you are stupid. The man in the photo you so intelligently posted, helping everyone understand what an idiot you are, is the great grandson of King Abdullah the First, the Jordanian king assassinated by a Palestinian zealot/patriot, take your pick.