How should we treat India? The Moscow empire is now offering India a $3–$4 discount per barrel on Urals crude compared to Brent—up from just $1.

[Couchpotato]

You don't know much about how we're using India huh? Many of our service jobs go there, do you know this? now it's Engineering? weird.

What does this have to do with India's calculus regarding the conflict in Ukraine?

 

[Litwin]

Clearly enough countries continue to do business with Russia that how many years later they continue to fight this war?

Only three (India, commie han- China, Turkey) actors directly enable Moscow’s predatory imperialism and keep this war going. We—the EU, USA, Japan, and the British world—can easily stop (using tariffs, or by stopping putin´s pirate, shadow fleet ) them.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Cool so answer the question. Why should India participate in not buying Russian gas if Europe is going to buy it? Russia is allegedly threatening Europe, but India is supposed to care about that more than Europe?


And Russia produces the second most LNG on the planet. Their gas is going to be purchased by someone.




So. That doesnt answer the question why India should care more about the Russian threat to Europe than Europe obviously does. I'm not questioning that Europe "needs the LNG" but if Russia is actually a threat to invade Europe (which they aren't) Europe wouldn't be funding their ability to do so and if they are funding it why should India make a different decision?

And for the record the myth that Russia won't be selling it's LNG if Europe stops buying it is moronic.

Russia produces the second most LNG on the planet at about 700 million metric tonnes per year. That's as much as 3-6 combined on the list of LNG producing countries. The US produces around 900. There isnt 700 million tonnes of spare capacity out there, so someone is going to buy it.

Reallly? Tell me more Bill Nye the science guy...

India gets its oil much cheaper from Russia. Would you go to a gas station charging $5.00 a gallon if the other station next door was selling it at $2.00 a gallon. They really don't give a shit about Europe and neither does China, so they buy Russian oil. India and China just worked out a deal for Russian natural gas pipeline.

Europe has no other sources for its natural gas than Russia because of Joe Biden's idiocy with our LNG production.

What part of that do you not understand?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You cant blame everything on Trump.

If I recall correctly Trump told Europe during his last term that they were far too dependant on Russian LNG and that the US could supply it to them. Europe told him to pound sand. So....

Then Biden slapped his restrictions on the oil and gas industry and strangled our ability to export LNG to Europe. Surely, you remember Dark Barndon, right?

 

[Litwin]

Many of our service jobs go there

As a centrist, I believe the U.S. President is 100% correct on this.

India Is Not a U.S. Ally—and Has Never Wanted to Be

Even as Modi deepens ties with Washington, he—like past Indian leaders—prioritizes India's foreign policy independence

time.com

 

[sealybobo]

Only three (India, commie han- China, Turkey) actors directly enable Moscow’s predatory imperialism and keep this war going. We—the EU, USA, Japan, and the British world—can easily stop (using tariffs, or by stopping putin´s pirate, shadow fleet ) them.

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What about us?

• In 2024, the total value of U.S. goods and services traded with Russia was an estimated $5.2 billion, a 25.8% decrease from 2023.
• U.S. exports to Russia were $528.3 million in 2024, down 11.8% from the year before.
• U.S. imports from Russia totaled $3.0 billion in 2024, a drop of 34.2% from 2023.

Perhaps we should lead by example?

 

[sealybobo]

As a centrist, I believe the U.S. President is 100% correct on this.

India Is Not a U.S. Ally—and Has Never Wanted to Be

Even as Modi deepens ties with Washington, he—like past Indian leaders—prioritizes India's foreign policy independence

time.com

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As of 2024–2025, the primary U.S. imports from Russia include:

• Fertilizers: As one of the world's most important suppliers, Russia continues to export significant amounts of fertilizers, such as urea and potash, to the U.S. Between January and May 2025, U.S. fertilizer imports from Russia increased by 21% year-on-year.
• Nuclear fuel: Despite a ban on enriched uranium imports enacted in 2024, some U.S. companies received waivers to continue purchases until 2028. Consequently, imports of uranium and plutonium from Russia have recently surged.
• Palladium: The U.S. continues to import this precious metal, which is a key component in catalytic converters and electronics. Imports of palladium have been significantly reduced since 2021, but the U.S. still bought $878 million worth of the metal from Russia in 2024.
• Inorganic chemicals: This category contributed over $683 million to U.S. imports from Russia in the first 11 months of 2024.

Why don't we stop?

 

[Litwin]

Europe has no other sources for its natural gas than Russia

its not true, its a lie
the reality :

Thread 'Our Sanctions dont work? in 2008 Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller said the company´d become the world's first $1 trillion company. It is now worth about 3%'

Jun 10, 2025

And, in the meantime, 10 companies reached the 1Tn value: Apple, MS, Nvidia, Google, Amazon, Meta, Berkshire, Tesla, Broadcom, TMSC. All American. Ah, and Saudi Aramco, thanks to their non-sanctioned oil. Saddam Putsein remains a master strategist.

3 % is still too much . Let's go for 0.
in 2008 @Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller said the company´d become the world's first $1 trillion company. It is now worth about 3% of that. Our Sanctions dont work?

• Litwin

 

[sealybobo]

its not true, its a lie
the reality :

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Thread 'Our Sanctions dont work? in 2008 Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller said the company´d become the world's first $1 trillion company. It is now worth about 3%'

Jun 10, 2025

And, in the meantime, 10 companies reached the 1Tn value: Apple, MS, Nvidia, Google, Amazon, Meta, Berkshire, Tesla, Broadcom, TMSC. All American. Ah, and Saudi Aramco, thanks to their non-sanctioned oil. Saddam Putsein remains a master strategist.

3 % is still too much . Let's go for 0.
in 2008 @Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller said the company´d become the world's first $1 trillion company. It is now worth about 3% of that. Our Sanctions dont work?

• Litwin

Like I said before and I'm waiting for a reply. Why does the USA still buy shit from Russia?

 

[Litwin]

As of 2024–2025, the primary U.S. imports from Russia include:

• Fertilizers: As one of the world's most important suppliers, Russia continues to export significant amounts of fertilizers, such as urea and potash, to the U.S. Between January and May 2025, U.S. fertilizer imports from Russia increased by 21% year-on-year.
• Nuclear fuel: Despite a ban on enriched uranium imports enacted in 2024, some U.S. companies received waivers to continue purchases until 2028. Consequently, imports of uranium and plutonium from Russia have recently surged.
• Palladium: The U.S. continues to import this precious metal, which is a key component in catalytic converters and electronics. Imports of palladium have been significantly reduced since 2021, but the U.S. still bought $878 million worth of the metal from Russia in 2024.
• Inorganic chemicals: This category contributed over $683 million to U.S. imports from Russia in the first 11 months of 2024.

Why don't we stop?

That's a good question. My guess is that the US and EU don't want to shock the free market. That's why our allies are gradually pushing back against the predatory , ghaza Moscow empire. Still, the US imports very little from them. If we target the top three enablers, everything should fall into place.

 

[whitehall]

India and other countries have been ripping off good old chump Uncle Sam for half a freaking century. How could you not be in support of Trump's tariffs to equalize the export playing field for the U.S. unless you are afflicted with such a severe case of TDS that you can't think strait and your own Country becomes the enemy in your warped mind?

 

[sealybobo]

That's a good question. My guess is that the US and EU don't want to shock the free market. That's why our allies are gradually pushing back against the predatory , ghaza Moscow empire. Still, the US imports very little from them. If we target the top three enablers, everything should fall into place.

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Seems hypocritical. My guess is we continue to buy shit we need from Russia. Has nothing to do with shocking the free market. What we buy from them we need and can't find it anywhere else. So we continue to do business with them.

And I'm sure buying oil from Russia is critical to India. If they could just buy it somewhere else for the same price I'm sure they would.

You do realize these countries economies are hurting more than ours, right? So while you make excuses for why we buy some things from Russia, they make excuses why they buy from Russia too.

Moscow’s oil helped India save $12.6 billion in 39 months​

Trump loves to brag about how much DOGE savings he has found. Well, I'm sure India's politicians are trying to make the best deals they can too. And remember, last year half of America was SIDING with Russia. Republicans mostly. Republicans said Ukraine started it and they are a bunch of Nazi's. If India was listening to American Republicans last year, perhaps that's why they are doing business with Russia. You told them they were good guys.

It's probably hard for us to tell India to stop buying what they need from Russia when we continue to buy what we need from Russia.

 

[sealybobo]

India and other countries have been ripping off good old chump Uncle Sam for half a freaking century. How could you not be in support of Trump's tariffs to equalize the export playing field for the U.S. unless you are afflicted with such a severe case of TDS that you can't think strait and your own Country becomes the enemy in your warped mind?

Can you show us how India has been ripping off the USA for half a century?

Without even looking, it seems to me we have been taking advantage of their cheap labor. And cheap products. So explain to us how we're being taken advantage of.

Largest Economies of the World: The top 10 largest economies in the world are USA, China, Germany, Japan, India, UK, France, Italy, Canada and Brazil.

The United States has held the position of the world's strongest economy since 1871, after surpassing the United Kingdom at the time. The United States dollar (USD) is one of the strongest currencies in the world and the most popular currency to trade overall.

 

[Litwin]

What we buy from them we need and can't find it anywhere else.

Its not true.

reality :

 

[sealybobo]

Its not true.

reality :

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Yes I saw that. So why do we HAVE TO buy from Russia? Probably the same reason India HAS TO buy oil from them. Seems hypocritical. Maybe Russia would stop murdering Ukrainians if we sacrificed a little more.

• Palladium: Russia is the world's largest producer of this metal, which is critical for the automotive industry in the production of catalytic converters. The U.S. continues to import Russian palladium
• Platinum: Russia is also a major global producer of platinum, a metal in the same group as palladium. It is used in electronics, industrial applications, and catalytic converters.
• Aluminum: While the U.S. has issued severe tariffs on Russian aluminum, some trade continues, particularly for stock produced before April 13, 2024.
• Nickel: Similar to aluminum, the U.S. has banned new imports of Russian nickel since April 2024, but older stock is still allowed. Russia is one of the world's leading nickel producers.
• Other metals: Russia also exports other metals such as iron, steel, copper, and cobalt, with some quantities still finding their way into U.S. markets despite sanctions and trade shifts.

Nuclear fuels

• Uranium and plutonium: The U.S. remains reliant on Russian nuclear fuels for its energy sector. The U.S. imported $624 million worth of uranium and plutonium from Russia in 2024. This trade has been a sensitive area, and while there has been increased investment in domestic alternatives, replacing the supply is expected to take years.

Fertilizers

• Chemical fertilizers: The U.S. continues to import billions of dollars worth of Russian chemical fertilizers, such as urea and potash, as Russia is a key global supplier. Due to a lack of easily available alternative suppliers, this trade has continued despite sanctions.

While imports have been curtailed since Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine, the continued purchase of certain inorganic minerals highlights the U.S.'s dependence on Russia for critical materials. Russia's role as a major global producer of these commodities has given it leverage, but sanctions and trade disruptions have pushed Russian producers to increasingly look towards new markets like China.

Now, India should tell us to stop buying all these things from Russia.

 

[sealybobo]

Its not true.

reality :

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The USA has the best economy in the world. All these countries you say are "taking advantage of us" do not have economies as good as ours. So it's funny you want India to not buy cheap oil when their economy is shakier than ours.

Perhaps if you wanted India to stop buying from Russia and start buying oil from us, you should have been nice to them. Not threaten them. Not make demands that aren't reasonable to them. And Trump did this to EVERY COUNTRY. He made all of our trading partners say **** you to the USA and they are all looking for alternative trading partners.

This is why we told you Trump should not be the President. You think it's good we have a bully dictator asshole as our president. And NOW the rest of the world will stop taking advantage of us.

Only one problem. No one is taking advantage of us. It's like your barber. Do you have a trade imbalance with your barber? Every month you spend money at his store and he never spends money with you. You should stop going to that barber. And your barber should stop buying hair products from wherever he buys his shit because no one at that company ever comes to get a haircut at his store.

India has sustained an average economic growth rate of above 6 percent for the past three decades, with an even stronger post-pandemic rebound – over 8 percent annually during 2021-2024.

India is now the fastest growing major economy in the world, with a high and rising contribution to global growth. In Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) terms (that is after adjusting for differences in price levels and the cost of living across countries), India accounted for about 8.3 percent of global GDP in 2024 — up from less than 3.5 percent in 1990. It is now the world’s fourth-largest economy — behind only China, the United States, and the European Union. In 2024, India contributed close to 17 percent to global GDP growth, and IMF projections suggest that this contribution will rise to almost 20 percent over the next five years (see chart). This sustained growth has translated into broad income gains and a significant reduction in poverty. According to the World Bank, GDP per capita (PPP) has risen about tenfold over the past three decades, while the rate of extreme poverty (income of $3/day or under) has fallen to about 5 percent in 2022, down from over 45 percent in the early 1990s.

 

[Litwin]

Perhaps if you wanted India to stop buying from Russia and start buying oil from us, you should have been nice to them.

India is a criminal, imperialistic thug , US is the best !

U.S. imports from Moscow empire fell to $3 billion in 2024, down 34% from the previous year. So while trade hasn’t vanished, it’s clearly in retreat.
Why Not Cut It Off Completely?

• Domestic Shortfalls: The U.S. produces only ~1% of its uranium needs domestically.
• Global Supply Chains: Some materials from the Moscow Empire are difficult to replace without major disruptions.
• Sanction Exemptions: While many imports are banned, legal carve-outs exist—especially for energy and nuclear-related goods. For example, uranium imports will be banned starting August 2024, but exemptions may apply until 2028.

 

[Litwin]

Yes I saw that. So why do we HAVE TO buy from Russia? Probably the same reason India HAS TO buy oil from them. Seems hypocritical. Maybe Russia would stop murdering Ukrainians if we sacrificed a little more.

• Palladium: Russia is the world's largest producer of this metal, which is critical for the automotive industry in the production of catalytic converters. The U.S. continues to import Russian palladium
• Platinum: Russia is also a major global producer of platinum, a metal in the same group as palladium. It is used in electronics, industrial applications, and catalytic converters.
• Aluminum: While the U.S. has issued severe tariffs on Russian aluminum, some trade continues, particularly for stock produced before April 13, 2024.
• Nickel: Similar to aluminum, the U.S. has banned new imports of Russian nickel since April 2024, but older stock is still allowed. Russia is one of the world's leading nickel producers.
• Other metals: Russia also exports other metals such as iron, steel, copper, and cobalt, with some quantities still finding their way into U.S. markets despite sanctions and trade shifts.

Nuclear fuels

• Uranium and plutonium: The U.S. remains reliant on Russian nuclear fuels for its energy sector. The U.S. imported $624 million worth of uranium and plutonium from Russia in 2024. This trade has been a sensitive area, and while there has been increased investment in domestic alternatives, replacing the supply is expected to take years.

Fertilizers

• Chemical fertilizers: The U.S. continues to import billions of dollars worth of Russian chemical fertilizers, such as urea and potash, as Russia is a key global supplier. Due to a lack of easily available alternative suppliers, this trade has continued despite sanctions.

While imports have been curtailed since Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine, the continued purchase of certain inorganic minerals highlights the U.S.'s dependence on Russia for critical materials. Russia's role as a major global producer of these commodities has given it leverage, but sanctions and trade disruptions have pushed Russian producers to increasingly look towards new markets like China.

Now, India should tell us to stop buying all these things from Russia.

India is Profiting from the Colonial War in Ukraine. When the Moscow Empire invaded Ukraine in February 2022, global energy markets convulsed. Western nations imposed sweeping sanctions, cutting off Stolen Siberian oil and gas from traditional buyers. But while Europe scrambled for alternatives, India stepped in—not as a passive buyer, but as a strategic speculant. Before the war, India sourced less than 1% of its crude oil from the Moscow Empire. By 2025, that figure skyrocketed to 42%, making India the largest buyer of Stolen Siberian seaborne crude, even ahead of commie han-China. India now imports 2.08 million barrels per day, up from just 30,000 barrels pre-war. This pivot saved India an estimated $17 billion in oil costs between 2022 and 2025. The Moscow Empire, desperate for buyers, offered deep discounts—sometimes $20–$30 per barrel cheaper than Brent crude. India seized the opportunity.
India didn’t just consume the oil—it refined and resold it. Major players like Reliance Industries and Nayara Energy turned discounted crude into diesel, jet fuel, and other refined products. These were then exported to Europe, the U.S., and Asia—ironically, to countries that had sanctioned the Moscow Empire.

• Reliance’s Jamnagar refinery alone exported $85.9 billion in refined products since 2023.
• Of that, $36 billion went to Western nations.
• U.S. officials dubbed this practice “Indian arbitrage”, estimating $16 billion in excess profits.

“as long as the price is good, we’ll keep buying oil from the Moscow Empire”—has been echoed by Indian officials in various forms since early 2022.

India didn’t just weather the storm—it turned the Moscow colonial wars into a refinery-powered criminal goldmine.

 

[Litwin]

update :

 

[Litwin]