How One Can Tell Bush Gave A Good Speech?

[nakedemperor]

As nonsensical as blaming Roosevelt if he were to mention US soldiers fighting Germans in North Africa when we were attacked by Japan in Hawaii. D'UH....

Japan and Germany were allies, therefore when one of them attacked us we declared war on the allied axis forces [Japan and Germany et al]. Bin Laden has always bitterly hated Saddam Hussein. This analogy was inane to begin with...

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Japan and Germany were allies, therefore when one of them attacked us we declared war on the allied axis forces [Japan and Germany et al]. Bin Laden has always bitterly hated Saddam Hussein. This analogy was inane to begin with...

It's called connecting the dots, toejamhead.

Why is alquaeda fighting in iraq, because they're afraid of losing a host country? Tell us your theory.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

The president and his propaganda machine willfully misled the American public that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, SPECIFICALLY. If some low-level Iraqi officers (that is, people who would not at all be in a position to offer WMD support to Al Qaeda, as has been directly and indirectly alleged by Cheney et al since the beginning) had had contact with Al Qaeda operatives YEARS ago, this is NOT a rationale for war.



Now it is, thanks to our president of mass destruction.



Circular logic at its most potent. Al Qaeda did not operate with impunity in Iraq under the iron-fisted regime of the control freak Saddam like they do now, since we invaded and sent out a personalized invitation to every single jihadist in the entire region to come take potshots at our soldiers.

What a dumb analogy. Japan and Germany had an explicitly defined and fully public military alliance which they're country's leaders shook on. Are you saying that Saddam and Bin Laden sat down together and signed some sort of agreement? Bin Laden constantly expressed his complete and utter hatred and contempt for the secularist Saddam regime. I'm not surprised you've fallen into the trap of 'all our enemies are friends' binary bullshit that the "with us or against us", "evildoers" black and white propaganda you've been spoonfed for years.

There's no circular logic. It's called looking at the bigger picture. try it sometime. As much as you want to deny it, there were connections between alqaeda and saddam's regime. You got a link about saddams and binladen's hatred? Or is this just assthink?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Low level connections is still a connection. Then there's stil the ten or eleven or so other points you didn't touch, NE.

 

[archangel]

How do Republicans know when Bush has made a good speech?

He opened his mouth.

How does the rest of America know Bush has bullshitted us?

He opened his mouth.

Grow up and learn to think for yourself...at least once in your life...this Bush Bad thing is really getting old...is that all you have or can say...if so ya better rethink what University you are attending...you are like a broken record...very boring.
And by the way I am not a Republican or Democrat...Just a American Independent...who can think for myself! :scratch:

 

[no1tovote4]

Japan and Germany were allies, therefore when one of them attacked us we declared war on the allied axis forces [Japan and Germany et al]. Bin Laden has always bitterly hated Saddam Hussein. This analogy was inane to begin with...

Um, not really. This has one little problem with it. The support by Saddam of terrorists is well documented and gives credence to the story that terrorism can be fought by attacking those who support it, who ally with it monetarily and vocally. This assumption that because Saddam had no direct connection with 9/11 that he had no connection to terrorism is simply covering one's ears and shouting so you cannot hear the truth.

As shown on T.V. Saddam with Big "Lotto-Winner" style check giving it to the father of a Suicide Murderer. His direct monetary and vocal support of Hezbollah, as well as the many connections to other terrorist organizations including free health care when they needed it.

Therefore attacking an ally of your enemy can be directly analogous to the attack on Germany after Japan bombed us. Saying no as many times as you can and as loudly as you can cannot deem a simple analogy like this worthless, it simply makes you look more than desperate to find fault in all things that may have any sort of relation to Bush, even to the detriment of your own logic.

 

[Jimmyeatworld]

Japan and Germany were allies, therefore when one of them attacked us we declared war on the allied axis forces [Japan and Germany et al]. Bin Laden has always bitterly hated Saddam Hussein. This analogy was inane to begin with...

Hitler and Mussolini weren't exactly buddies, but Germany and Italy fought against allied forces at the beginning of World War II. A common enemy can sometimes make strange allies.

 

[badbob85037]

No, we don't. Remember when Cheney made a complete jackass of himself saying "Iraqi agents met with Al Qaeda operatives in Prague" and then a few weeks later "I never once said that Iraqi agents met with Al Qaeda in Prague"? No, we don't have "solid reporting" of "senior level contacts". What was reported "most credibly" was a series of letters between LOW level contacts a DECADE ago.



Potentially, because of mutual enemies in the North.



Yeah, because they came there AFTER the invasion of aforementioned Orwellian name because Iraq has become, according to the CIA, the planet's most fertile terror breeding ground. GOOD POINT.



Whoa whoa, hold the phone. Al Qaeda was seeking WMDs!? No. Way. And they were ASKING people?? Un. freakin. believable.

These are the most inane selections I could find. The author made NO case for ANY collaboration WHATsoever between Baghdad and Al Qaeda on 9/11. Hence, again, finally, pleaseohplease for the last time, Iraq had NOTHING ot do, WHATSOEVER with the attacks on 9/11.

Terrorists are terrorists, and a "low level" link is still a link. While there is no evidense that Saddam's Iraq had a direct connection to the 9/11 attack (and I might add that nobody EVER said there was), there IS a link to terrorism. It's ignoring things like that that led to attacks on U.S. soil in the first place.

Why is there people who believe on 9/11 the laws of science and nature took the day off to believe the impossible ?