How on earth is this justice? Teen rapes toddler, puts video on line and doesn't do jail time.

[GLASNOST]

I ended up at the house of a woman I'd met, back in the early 70's . She started giving me a BJ (which was OK with me!) but then her infant crept up on the bed and wanted a closeup look-see at what her mother was doing. That was not OK ...... but she saw nothing wrong in it. I still wonder to this day what sort of person that woman was.

 

[Gracie]

I ended up at the house of a woman I'd met, back in the early 70's . She started giving me a BJ (which was OK with me!) but then her infant crept up on the bed and wanted a closeup look-see at what her mother was doing. That was not OK ...... but she saw nothing wrong in it. I still wonder to this day what sort of person that woman was.

A lowlife?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Is this unreal or what? What on earth was this Judge thinking? AND he produced child porn. Aye carumba! The air is blue right now in the house.

The baby was only 12 to 18 months old.

"An Iowa man who raped a toddler on camera will serve no time in prison.

Kraigen Grooms, 19, pleaded guilty on Monday to Engaging in a Lascivious Act with a Child according to KTVO, and was given a 10-year suspended sentence by the judge and just five years of supervised release."

Iowa man 19 who sexually assaulted a toddler receives NO prison time



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I don't want to cast aspersions; but rape seems to be your word. In the article, it is referred to sexual assault/lacscivious act. There are many "sexual assaults" that are nowhere near as bad as rape; as frankly, the term is used very liberally. I'd give examples to further the point, but I won't out of sensitivity to the child/victim.

 

[aaronleland]

Is this unreal or what? What on earth was this Judge thinking? AND he produced child porn. Aye carumba! The air is blue right now in the house.

The baby was only 12 to 18 months old.

"An Iowa man who raped a toddler on camera will serve no time in prison.

Kraigen Grooms, 19, pleaded guilty on Monday to Engaging in a Lascivious Act with a Child according to KTVO, and was given a 10-year suspended sentence by the judge and just five years of supervised release."

Iowa man 19 who sexually assaulted a toddler receives NO prison time



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I don't want to cast aspersions; but rape seems to be your word. In the article, it is referred to sexual assault/lacscivious act. There are many "sexual assaults" that are nowhere near as bad as rape; as frankly, the term is used very liberally. I'd give examples to further the point, but I won't out of sensitivity to the child/victim.

I have seen headlines about the story that used the word rape. It looks like a case of irresponsible journalism. When the story first came out it read as if the boy had raped the girl, and recorded it for some pornography ring. If they would have asked the prosecutor for more details before starting a national outrage it would have more sense.

 

[Nia88]

I knew he was white before even opening up the article. White privilege set him free.

A white man can now commit rape and get set free or given 6 months in jail.

 

[aaronleland]

I knew he was white before even opening up the article. White privilege set him free.

A white man can now commit rape and get set free or given 6 months in jail.

It turns out he didn't rape anybody.

 

[tinydancer]

ISo he masturbated on the baby. Sigh. The strangest part of this story is the victims parents not wanting to prosecute the teenager. How odd.

 

[aaronleland]

ISo he masturbated on the baby. Sigh. The strangest part of this story is the victims parents not wanting to prosecute the teenager. How odd.

I can understand he was coerced, but he was still old enough to know what he was doing was wrong. I wouldn't have been as forgiving as the parents were.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Is this unreal or what? What on earth was this Judge thinking? AND he produced child porn. Aye carumba! The air is blue right now in the house.

The baby was only 12 to 18 months old.

"An Iowa man who raped a toddler on camera will serve no time in prison.

Kraigen Grooms, 19, pleaded guilty on Monday to Engaging in a Lascivious Act with a Child according to KTVO, and was given a 10-year suspended sentence by the judge and just five years of supervised release."

Iowa man 19 who sexually assaulted a toddler receives NO prison time



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The judge might be a NAMBLA member. They boast of having state and federal judges as members.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

ISo he masturbated on the baby. Sigh. The strangest part of this story is the victims parents not wanting to prosecute the teenager. How odd.

Only reason I could think of is maybe the 19 year old is retarded or something.

 

[GLASNOST]

A lowlife?

Bingo!

Only reason I could think of is maybe the 19 year old is retarded or something.

That's what I was thinking.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Is this unreal or what? What on earth was this Judge thinking? AND he produced child porn. Aye carumba! The air is blue right now in the house.

The baby was only 12 to 18 months old.

"An Iowa man who raped a toddler on camera will serve no time in prison.

Kraigen Grooms, 19, pleaded guilty on Monday to Engaging in a Lascivious Act with a Child according to KTVO, and was given a 10-year suspended sentence by the judge and just five years of supervised release."

Iowa man 19 who sexually assaulted a toddler receives NO prison time
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That fagot should be dead for what he did.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Apparently there was a lot more to the story...

Prosecutor Explains Sentence for Iowa Child Sex Assault

A prosecutor in the case of an Iowa teen who was given a suspended 10-year prison sentence for molesting a 1-year-old girl said Thursday that the teen was duped into the act by child pornographers posing online as a teenage girl.

The suspended sentence for Kraigen Grooms, 19, issued Monday has stirred outrage on social media and led to an online petition calling for an Iowa judge's removal.

But Wapellow County Attorney Gary Oldenburger said Grooms' sentence was part of a plea agreement based on a bevy of factors, including that the victim's parents refused to participate in prosecuting Grooms.

"My original intent was to send him to prison for a long time," Oldenburger said. "The girl's parents didn't want Grooms to go to prison; they wanted him to go to rehab."

Court records show that Grooms — who was 16 when the crime occurred — received a 10-year suspended sentence and five years of supervised release. He was given credit for nearly 2? years spent in a juvenile detention center and, later, adult county jail while he awaited trial. He must register as a sex offender and faces prison time if he reoffends.

Oldenburger said the toddler was not raped or physically harmed; the prosecutor told the Des Moines Register that Grooms was masturbating in the video. He also said Grooms did not know the abuse was being recorded by pornographers.

So I guess it turns out the teen didn't harm the child in any way, and had no idea there were child pornographers recording him. I'm assuming it's true since it would be easy to obtain that evidence through a computer forensics investigation. Still pretty sick on the boy's part, but certainly explains the light sentence.

Standard liberal defense of perverts; IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT! SOMEONE MADE THEM DO IT!

lol, get real. No one is THAT persuasive that they can talk you into doing something that you are morally opposed to doing via the internet, roflmao.

 

[JimBowie1958]

What is confusing to me is that he was 16 when he committed the crime 'but despite his age he was tried as an adult in court'. So if his crime was so serious that he was tried as an adult ...... why did he get a child's sentencing? Shall I assume he's mentally handicapped?

What normal person would do something like this?

By definition there is something wrong with that pervs head, but the true question here is, does his mental disability make him not responsible for his actions?

I say no, he is still responsible for what he did and should have been executed for it already.

That is why this nation is flooded with these child molesting little bastards; liberals are so quick to explain it away, defend the perv as being unable to control themselves and then get them off after some court appointed shrink says that they are cured and not going to ever do it again.

This nation is full of corpses and wrecked lives of victims of "never going to do it agains." That is what the experts were also saying about pedophile priests and look what happened. Oh dont put them in prison, they are too nice and gentle, they did not mean to harm anyone, give them another chance, they will never do it again.

And we have tens of thousands of victims across three continents, and probably all five inhabited continents.

 

[JimBowie1958]

So...it was the child that gave him a woody. That is sick.

Bingo. Aaronland will be completely mystified as to why that's wrong, though. He thinks that because the pedo didn't know he was being filmed it's okay ...

Liberals today, even the best of them, have no moral compass left in regards to sexual norms any more.

Prepare to see pedophilia normalized by these sick bastards by 2025.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I am seeing it from a different point of view. Dude is maybe babysitting? I dunno. Looking at porn on the pc, kid is in the room, dude is jacking off, kid has no clue what is going on nor probably cares since he/she is probably playing with toys. Dude is not looking at kid? He is looking at the pc? Or is Dude looking at kid and getting a woody, then jacking off due to looking at KID?

That's the question I ask.

The people urging the kid on were child pornographers.

I highly doubt that they are interested in photos that have the little kid involved in the background or only incidentally.

For them to get their jollies, the kid has to play a central role and be seen as humiliated and abused or it does not give them satisfaction.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Now he says I'm rationalizing the man's actions, and is insinuating that I'm a pedophile. Now you can see where our argument began.

You are rationalizing the perversion of some creep, that is what you liberals do these days in regards to any sexual perversion.

And no he is not, as I read it, insinuating that you are a pedophile but some kind of pervert too and you have no moral compass on this topic.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I ended up at the house of a woman I'd met, back in the early 70's . She started giving me a BJ (which was OK with me!) but then her infant crept up on the bed and wanted a closeup look-see at what her mother was doing. That was not OK ...... but she saw nothing wrong in it. I still wonder to this day what sort of person that woman was.

It's pretty obvious.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Is this unreal or what? What on earth was this Judge thinking? AND he produced child porn. Aye carumba! The air is blue right now in the house.

The baby was only 12 to 18 months old.

"An Iowa man who raped a toddler on camera will serve no time in prison.

Kraigen Grooms, 19, pleaded guilty on Monday to Engaging in a Lascivious Act with a Child according to KTVO, and was given a 10-year suspended sentence by the judge and just five years of supervised release."

Iowa man 19 who sexually assaulted a toddler receives NO prison time.
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I don't want to cast aspersions; but rape seems to be your word. In the article, it is referred to sexual assault/lacscivious act. There are many "sexual assaults" that are nowhere near as bad as rape; as frankly, the term is used very liberally. I'd give examples to further the point, but I won't out of sensitivity to the child/victim.

That is the zeitgeist of our time to exaggerate sexual crimes, unless a pervert is involved.

So a heterosexual guy who is in love with a young woman and who parties with her and they fall into making out and then sexual intercourse has raped her if she was intoxicated at all.

But a 16 year old who molested a child has not committed rape but only sexual assault.

Liberals corrupt everything they get involved with.

 

[JimBowie1958]

ISo he masturbated on the baby. Sigh. The strangest part of this story is the victims parents not wanting to prosecute the teenager. How odd.

Only reason I could think of is maybe the 19 year old is retarded or something.

Morally retarded, yes.