How much can renewable energy save us?

[Toddsterpatriot]

You don't say what the reason is so I'll guess your take is wind farms are not investments that pay for themselves, they're purchases like cruisers that we buy and hope we don't have to use them.


Did I guess right? I'm not to good at guessing games, if I missed this one then let's just say what we mean --like how you don't want to invest your own money in wind/solar because it doesn't work and I invest my own money in oil because it works.

State capitalism, a form of socialism, works better than truer forms of capitalism; that is why.

Technology is improving all the time; wind energy works, and with better technologies and an upgraded grid; we could have cost effective energy to balance our energy portfolio.

And, I prefer to advance fusion (an energy with a future) over fossil fuels.

Technology is improving all the time; wind energy works,

Excellent news.
You should invest all your weed earnings in wind energy.

No thanks; I like to balance my portfolio; not just invest in fossil fuels.

Investing in wind doesn't balance your portfolio?

Just attention deficits while claiming you have valid arguments?

You should invest all your weed earnings in wind energy.

You want others to invest in wind, what percentage of your portfolio is invested in wind energy?

 

[Skull Pilot]

No our tax dollars should be spent on the energy source that provides the most consistent reliable output not wind which only supplies 25% or less of its rated capacity and what you don't understand is that that measly 25% is provided by the latest and best wind technology

all we need, is a better grid. you make it seem; like there is not Always wind blowing, somewhere in the US.

I never said that but the wind certainly isn't turning every windmill at the same time either which is why windmills only produce on average 25% of their rated capacity and that is not an acceptable output for the money

The latest wind technology sextuples the energy output of current wind turbines. And, with an upgraded grid; wind energy can be used to supplement traditional energy sources; at least until fusion (an energy with a future) comes online.

How much more efficiency can we extract from fossil fuels? they just get, "more expensive" and we merely, "sink costs".

currently we can get better than 90% efficiency from natural gas and about 85% from oil
nuclear power on the other hand will produce 90% or more of it's capacity 24/7/365 and we will never run out of fuel as we will with fossil fuels

Wind turbines of any sort will never come near producing their rated capacity because the wind doesn't blow all the time, sometimes it blows too fast and the turbines have to be shut down for safety reasons and sometimes it blows too slow to do any good

Wind is intermittent and not a good source of power on which to base our future power generation

Advances in technology is happening all the time. They are now making solar panels that are transparent and can be used for windows in existing buildings.

so what that still doesn't account for the sporadic nature of wind
You can have all the windmills you want but we will never realize anywhere near the installed capacity of windmills for the reasons I have given you over and over again

so tell me what is the better power generation investment

Millions of windmills all working at a fraction of their capacity, eating up millions of acres of land far away from the point of use so that transmission losses become a factor or a new generation MSR nuclear reactor program that can mass produce small and mid size reactors that can be installed in a redundant generation system, can be buried underground and that produce 90% or better of their rated output all day every day of every month of every year for decades to come?

 

[danielpalos]

State capitalism, a form of socialism, works better than truer forms of capitalism; that is why.

Technology is improving all the time; wind energy works, and with better technologies and an upgraded grid; we could have cost effective energy to balance our energy portfolio.

And, I prefer to advance fusion (an energy with a future) over fossil fuels.

Technology is improving all the time; wind energy works,

Excellent news.
You should invest all your weed earnings in wind energy.

No thanks; I like to balance my portfolio; not just invest in fossil fuels.

Investing in wind doesn't balance your portfolio?

Just attention deficits while claiming you have valid arguments?

You should invest all your weed earnings in wind energy.

You want others to invest in wind, what percentage of your portfolio is invested in wind energy?

No more than twenty percent.

 

[danielpalos]

all we need, is a better grid. you make it seem; like there is not Always wind blowing, somewhere in the US.

I never said that but the wind certainly isn't turning every windmill at the same time either which is why windmills only produce on average 25% of their rated capacity and that is not an acceptable output for the money

The latest wind technology sextuples the energy output of current wind turbines. And, with an upgraded grid; wind energy can be used to supplement traditional energy sources; at least until fusion (an energy with a future) comes online.

How much more efficiency can we extract from fossil fuels? they just get, "more expensive" and we merely, "sink costs".

currently we can get better than 90% efficiency from natural gas and about 85% from oil
nuclear power on the other hand will produce 90% or more of it's capacity 24/7/365 and we will never run out of fuel as we will with fossil fuels

Wind turbines of any sort will never come near producing their rated capacity because the wind doesn't blow all the time, sometimes it blows too fast and the turbines have to be shut down for safety reasons and sometimes it blows too slow to do any good

Wind is intermittent and not a good source of power on which to base our future power generation

Advances in technology is happening all the time. They are now making solar panels that are transparent and can be used for windows in existing buildings.

so what that still doesn't account for the sporadic nature of wind
You can have all the windmills you want but we will never realize anywhere near the installed capacity of windmills for the reasons I have given you over and over again

so tell me what is the better power generation investment

Millions of windmills all working at a fraction of their capacity, eating up millions of acres of land far away from the point of use so that transmission losses become a factor or a new generation MSR nuclear reactor program that can mass produce small and mid size reactors that can be installed in a redundant generation system, can be buried underground and that produce 90% or better of their rated output all day every day of every month of every year for decades to come?

It doesn't matter; all of our energy will not come from wing power alone; it is Only part of a diversified energy portfolio.

Renewable energy, is what it is about, not fossil fuels.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Technology is improving all the time; wind energy works,

Excellent news.
You should invest all your weed earnings in wind energy.

No thanks; I like to balance my portfolio; not just invest in fossil fuels.

Investing in wind doesn't balance your portfolio?

Just attention deficits while claiming you have valid arguments?

You should invest all your weed earnings in wind energy.

You want others to invest in wind, what percentage of your portfolio is invested in wind energy?

No more than twenty percent.

In what stocks?

 

[danielpalos]

No thanks; I like to balance my portfolio; not just invest in fossil fuels.

Investing in wind doesn't balance your portfolio?

Just attention deficits while claiming you have valid arguments?

You should invest all your weed earnings in wind energy.

You want others to invest in wind, what percentage of your portfolio is invested in wind energy?

No more than twenty percent.

In what stocks?

None right now; it is only practice.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Investing in wind doesn't balance your portfolio?

Just attention deficits while claiming you have valid arguments?

You should invest all your weed earnings in wind energy.

You want others to invest in wind, what percentage of your portfolio is invested in wind energy?

No more than twenty percent.

In what stocks?

None right now; it is only practice.

You're practicing holding 20% of your portfolio in wind energy with the actual number being 0?

 

[danielpalos]

Just attention deficits while claiming you have valid arguments?

You want others to invest in wind, what percentage of your portfolio is invested in wind energy?

No more than twenty percent.

In what stocks?

None right now; it is only practice.

You're practicing holding 20% of your portfolio in wind energy with the actual number being 0?

It helps if you understand the concepts before sinking any costs.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You want others to invest in wind, what percentage of your portfolio is invested in wind energy?

No more than twenty percent.

In what stocks?

None right now; it is only practice.

You're practicing holding 20% of your portfolio in wind energy with the actual number being 0?

It helps if you understand the concepts before sinking any costs.

As was said earlier, you want others to invest in wind energy while you invest zero.

 

[danielpalos]

No more than twenty percent.

In what stocks?

None right now; it is only practice.

You're practicing holding 20% of your portfolio in wind energy with the actual number being 0?

It helps if you understand the concepts before sinking any costs.

As was said earlier, you want others to invest in wind energy while you invest zero.

The concept is, balancing a portfolio. I am not surprised you don't get that simple, capital concept;

the national socialist right wing, never does.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In what stocks?

None right now; it is only practice.

You're practicing holding 20% of your portfolio in wind energy with the actual number being 0?

It helps if you understand the concepts before sinking any costs.

As was said earlier, you want others to invest in wind energy while you invest zero.

The concept is, balancing a portfolio. I am not surprised you don't get that simple, capital concept;

the national socialist right wing, never does.

A guy with no money is telling me about balancing a portfolio? LOL!

Smoke another bowl.

 

[danielpalos]

None right now; it is only practice.

You're practicing holding 20% of your portfolio in wind energy with the actual number being 0?

It helps if you understand the concepts before sinking any costs.

As was said earlier, you want others to invest in wind energy while you invest zero.

The concept is, balancing a portfolio. I am not surprised you don't get that simple, capital concept;

the national socialist right wing, never does.

A guy with no money is telling me about balancing a portfolio? LOL!

Smoke another bowl.

education, what a concept.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You're practicing holding 20% of your portfolio in wind energy with the actual number being 0?

It helps if you understand the concepts before sinking any costs.

As was said earlier, you want others to invest in wind energy while you invest zero.

The concept is, balancing a portfolio. I am not surprised you don't get that simple, capital concept;

the national socialist right wing, never does.

A guy with no money is telling me about balancing a portfolio? LOL!

Smoke another bowl.

education, what a concept.

Yup....let me know when you get some.

 

[danielpalos]

It helps if you understand the concepts before sinking any costs.

As was said earlier, you want others to invest in wind energy while you invest zero.

The concept is, balancing a portfolio. I am not surprised you don't get that simple, capital concept;

the national socialist right wing, never does.

A guy with no money is telling me about balancing a portfolio? LOL!

Smoke another bowl.

education, what a concept.

Yup....let me know when you get some.

I am not the one who has little to no understanding of economics or the law.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

As was said earlier, you want others to invest in wind energy while you invest zero.

The concept is, balancing a portfolio. I am not surprised you don't get that simple, capital concept;

the national socialist right wing, never does.

A guy with no money is telling me about balancing a portfolio? LOL!

Smoke another bowl.

education, what a concept.

Yup....let me know when you get some.

I am not the one who has little to no understanding of economics or the law.

DERP!

 

[danielpalos]

The concept is, balancing a portfolio. I am not surprised you don't get that simple, capital concept;

the national socialist right wing, never does.

A guy with no money is telling me about balancing a portfolio? LOL!

Smoke another bowl.

education, what a concept.

Yup....let me know when you get some.

I am not the one who has little to no understanding of economics or the law.

DERP!

thank you for proving my point.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A guy with no money is telling me about balancing a portfolio? LOL!

Smoke another bowl.

education, what a concept.

Yup....let me know when you get some.

I am not the one who has little to no understanding of economics or the law.

DERP!

thank you for proving my point.

I enjoy pointing out the hypocrisy of someone wanting others to waste their money on wind power, without investing a dime of their own.

And the ridiculousness of one with no money in the market, lecturing me on balancing a portfolio.

 

[danielpalos]

education, what a concept.

Yup....let me know when you get some.

I am not the one who has little to no understanding of economics or the law.

DERP!

thank you for proving my point.

I enjoy pointing out the hypocrisy of someone wanting others to waste their money on wind power, without investing a dime of their own.

And the ridiculousness of one with no money in the market, lecturing me on balancing a portfolio.

that is what, education (what a concept) is about, dear.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yup....let me know when you get some.

I am not the one who has little to no understanding of economics or the law.

DERP!

thank you for proving my point.

I enjoy pointing out the hypocrisy of someone wanting others to waste their money on wind power, without investing a dime of their own.

And the ridiculousness of one with no money in the market, lecturing me on balancing a portfolio.

that is what, education (what a concept) is about, dear.

Yes, the ignorant trying to educate me is a concept, a funny, funny concept.

 

[danielpalos]

Here is some more, "education":