How many seats will California lose if:

[OKTexas]

With 5 million illegals California could lose more then 5 seats .....lol

How?

Try reading the 14th Amendment, people of voting age who are not eligible to vote are not supposed to be counted for representation.

14Th Amendment, Section 2 (my bold)

(2) Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. "But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age,* and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State."

They can be counted for every other purpose, bu not for representation.

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And yet they always have

And yet the Constitution says they can't. Shows you how much our government cares for its founding document and its amendments. Maybe the Trump people read it and decided it was time to follow it. Who could object, it's right there in black and white.

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[CrusaderFrank]

Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats


Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats
RYAN VOYLES Herald & Review
Apr 7, 2018
Census video
DECATUR — The mass of people leaving Illinois could soon add up to another loss — one of the state’s 18 seats in Congress.

The exodus dropped Illinois from the fifth-most populated state to the sixth in December, based on U.S. Census data showing that 33,703 moved out between July 2016 and July 2017.

It shouldn't really matter that much, as Proportional Representation would mean that everyone gets one vote, everyone gets representation, and the US can finally become a democratic country.

That's the very reason that we're a Republic

Yes, the US is a Republic to stop the people having a say. I get it, the rich want to control everything. And they do.

Try Schoolhouse Rock.

Are you trying to derail this conversation, or is it that you just don't have anything to say?

I'm trying to help you

 

[frigidweirdo]

It shouldn't really matter that much, as Proportional Representation would mean that everyone gets one vote, everyone gets representation, and the US can finally become a democratic country.

That's the very reason that we're a Republic

Yes, the US is a Republic to stop the people having a say. I get it, the rich want to control everything. And they do.

Try Schoolhouse Rock.

Are you trying to derail this conversation, or is it that you just don't have anything to say?

I'm trying to help you

Yeah sure, you're trying to help me by.... talking nonsense.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

That's the very reason that we're a Republic

Yes, the US is a Republic to stop the people having a say. I get it, the rich want to control everything. And they do.

Try Schoolhouse Rock.

Are you trying to derail this conversation, or is it that you just don't have anything to say?

I'm trying to help you

Yeah sure, you're trying to help me by.... talking nonsense.

The nonsense is someone demanding what you are demanding when you know thia country was never created as a Democracy.

So stop the nonsense.

 

[Wyatt earp]

We're a republic, not mob rule. We dont have proportional representation.

I know the US doesn't have PR.

We're not talking about what the US having PR, are we?

"mob rule" again. As if one person one vote is "mob rule", but what the US currently have with some people having more power with their votes than others is somehow better.

Can you explain how a person in Wyoming having 3 times the voting power of someone in California is better than everyone having the same powered vote?

How many electoral does wyoming get compared to california?

Ahh shit I fucked up...

Frigid said wyoming has 3x the power of ca.

Wyoming gets 3 votes from 579,000 people. That's one vote for every 193,000 people.

California gets 55 votes from 39,500,000 people. That's one vote for every 718,181 people.

That's 3.72 times more voting power in Wyoming than California.

No you don't count the senate, it's for state rights, house is for people's rights

 

[Wyatt earp]

That's the very reason that we're a Republic

Yes, the US is a Republic to stop the people having a say. I get it, the rich want to control everything. And they do.

Try Schoolhouse Rock.

Are you trying to derail this conversation, or is it that you just don't have anything to say?

I'm trying to help you

Yeah sure, you're trying to help me by.... talking nonsense.

You could learn from a children's show on the government.

 

[OKTexas]

Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats


Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats
RYAN VOYLES Herald & Review
Apr 7, 2018
Census video
DECATUR — The mass of people leaving Illinois could soon add up to another loss — one of the state’s 18 seats in Congress.

The exodus dropped Illinois from the fifth-most populated state to the sixth in December, based on U.S. Census data showing that 33,703 moved out between July 2016 and July 2017.

You sure? I don't think the # of seats a state sends to Congress has changed since the 1930's.

2010 Census Results: Which States Gained House Seats, Which States Lost

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[Wyatt earp]

Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats


Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats
RYAN VOYLES Herald & Review
Apr 7, 2018
Census video
DECATUR — The mass of people leaving Illinois could soon add up to another loss — one of the state’s 18 seats in Congress.

The exodus dropped Illinois from the fifth-most populated state to the sixth in December, based on U.S. Census data showing that 33,703 moved out between July 2016 and July 2017.

You sure? I don't think the # of seats a state sends to Congress has changed since the 1930's.

2010 Census Results: Which States Gained House Seats, Which States Lost

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Let me guess it was the democrats who made 435 perment...

Why There Are 435 Members of the House of Representatives

"After the 1910 census, when the House grew from 391 members to 433 (two more were added later when Arizona and New Mexico became states), the growth stopped. That’s because the 1920 census indicated that the majority of Americans were concentrating in cities, and nativists, worried about of the power of 'foreigners,' blocked efforts to give them more representatives," wrote Dalton Conley, a professor of sociology, medicine and public policy at New York University, and Jacqueline Stevens, a professor of political science at Northwestern University.

 

[Wyatt earp]

How come they didn't add two more when Hawaii and Alaska became states?


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[OKTexas]

Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats


Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats
RYAN VOYLES Herald & Review
Apr 7, 2018
Census video
DECATUR — The mass of people leaving Illinois could soon add up to another loss — one of the state’s 18 seats in Congress.

The exodus dropped Illinois from the fifth-most populated state to the sixth in December, based on U.S. Census data showing that 33,703 moved out between July 2016 and July 2017.

You sure? I don't think the # of seats a state sends to Congress has changed since the 1930's.

2010 Census Results: Which States Gained House Seats, Which States Lost

.

Let me guess it was the democrats who made 435 perment...

Why There Are 435 Members of the House of Representatives

"After the 1910 census, when the House grew from 391 members to 433 (two more were added later when Arizona and New Mexico became states), the growth stopped. That’s because the 1920 census indicated that the majority of Americans were concentrating in cities, and nativists, worried about of the power of 'foreigners,' blocked efforts to give them more representatives," wrote Dalton Conley, a professor of sociology, medicine and public policy at New York University, and Jacqueline Stevens, a professor of political science at Northwestern University.

This is the comment by Oldlady that I responded to: (my bold)

"You sure? I don't think the # of seats a state sends to Congress has changed since the 1930's."

She was talking about a state, singular, not how may all the states, plural, send to congress, at least that how I read it.

.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats


Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats
RYAN VOYLES Herald & Review
Apr 7, 2018
Census video
DECATUR — The mass of people leaving Illinois could soon add up to another loss — one of the state’s 18 seats in Congress.

The exodus dropped Illinois from the fifth-most populated state to the sixth in December, based on U.S. Census data showing that 33,703 moved out between July 2016 and July 2017.

You sure? I don't think the # of seats a state sends to Congress has changed since the 1930's.

2010 Census Results: Which States Gained House Seats, Which States Lost

.

Let me guess it was the democrats who made 435 perment...

Why There Are 435 Members of the House of Representatives

"After the 1910 census, when the House grew from 391 members to 433 (two more were added later when Arizona and New Mexico became states), the growth stopped. That’s because the 1920 census indicated that the majority of Americans were concentrating in cities, and nativists, worried about of the power of 'foreigners,' blocked efforts to give them more representatives," wrote Dalton Conley, a professor of sociology, medicine and public policy at New York University, and Jacqueline Stevens, a professor of political science at Northwestern University.

This is the comment by Oldlady that I responded to: (my bold)

"You sure? I don't think the # of seats a state sends to Congress has changed since the 1930's."

She was talking about a state, singular, not how may all the states, plural, send to congress, at least that how I read it.

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She knew, was just clarifying it, for some reason I thought it was always 534.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats


Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats
RYAN VOYLES Herald & Review
Apr 7, 2018
Census video
DECATUR — The mass of people leaving Illinois could soon add up to another loss — one of the state’s 18 seats in Congress.

The exodus dropped Illinois from the fifth-most populated state to the sixth in December, based on U.S. Census data showing that 33,703 moved out between July 2016 and July 2017.

It shouldn't really matter that much, as Proportional Representation would mean that everyone gets one vote, everyone gets representation, and the US can finally become a democratic country.

^ there it is. The Dems want mob rule so they can just vote rob you of your wealth and take away your freedoms.

^ there it is. The Reps (I'm not a Dem thank you very much) will say ANYTHING to get what they want.

One person, one vote is "mob rule", instead we need a system where most people don't get a say.... then it's better because..... the "mob" isn't ruling the country, the RICH are.

Why do you think it's better if the rich are the only ones who get to decide what happens?

Also "mob rule" would hurt both the Dems and the Reps. It would allow other parties, more choice for people when it comes to choosing their "representatives" and actually REPRESENTATION.

I wonder why you're scared of people actually having representation in parliament.

Because parliaments strip people of their rights.

No right to free speech in places like Germany and Canada. No right to own firearms to protect yourself.

No thanks!

My gunz, my gunz, take my children but leave my GUUUUUUUUUNZZZZZZZ! LOL, ******* rube!

 

[OKTexas]

Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats


Illinois' population loss may take out 2 congressional seats
RYAN VOYLES Herald & Review
Apr 7, 2018
Census video
DECATUR — The mass of people leaving Illinois could soon add up to another loss — one of the state’s 18 seats in Congress.

The exodus dropped Illinois from the fifth-most populated state to the sixth in December, based on U.S. Census data showing that 33,703 moved out between July 2016 and July 2017.

You sure? I don't think the # of seats a state sends to Congress has changed since the 1930's.

2010 Census Results: Which States Gained House Seats, Which States Lost

.

Let me guess it was the democrats who made 435 perment...

Why There Are 435 Members of the House of Representatives

"After the 1910 census, when the House grew from 391 members to 433 (two more were added later when Arizona and New Mexico became states), the growth stopped. That’s because the 1920 census indicated that the majority of Americans were concentrating in cities, and nativists, worried about of the power of 'foreigners,' blocked efforts to give them more representatives," wrote Dalton Conley, a professor of sociology, medicine and public policy at New York University, and Jacqueline Stevens, a professor of political science at Northwestern University.

This is the comment by Oldlady that I responded to: (my bold)

"You sure? I don't think the # of seats a state sends to Congress has changed since the 1930's."

She was talking about a state, singular, not how may all the states, plural, send to congress, at least that how I read it.

.

She knew, was just clarifying it, for some reason I thought it was always 534.

Currently it's 435 in the house and 100 in the senate.

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